Jesus Married

[Strange]

Also Interesting:

http://www.irr.org/da-vinci-code.html#Part 1

That is interesting, Constantine has been involved in many conspiracy theories.

 

[boywonder13]

I thought I heard that it was unthinkable for a rabbi not to be married and that everyone called him "rabbi".

Well they called himthat for respect and its another word for teacher also.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I am a Christian but I will still enjoy seeing the Da Vinci Code, I know its a work of fiction but it does look entertaining. As far as people calling the bible fiction, I guess that is their opinion and really there are no facts to back it up. But, just to play devils advocate to myself, I did read an interesting story once that said Emperor Constantine, who was a Roman emperor sometime around the year 300, created the bible to unite people under one religion. I got to thinking about it and if Constantine had enough scholars, he could have them collaborate together to write the bible, or at least the new testament. Then they could have stored several copies around to be found at later dates, and with the reliablity of carbon dating and and it being such an early time, around the year 300, it could be plausable. I don't believe it but it could have happened and I don't think we would ever know.

Some of the links I posted should give some info as to why this wouldn't have happened. (I think I posted those links, I've looked through a lot today) But anyhow, as christian I'll say this. Be careful what ideas you throw out there. I know that you're throwing it out as an idea, and there's nothing wrong with that, but unless you have some factual idea of why this could have happened, be careful. I could easily see someone taking your idea and running with it, and then it falls in part on your shoulders that this person has left or never came to God. Be careful what ideas of religion you throw out without knowing the full stories, or at least what we know of them.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

Well, I think talking about the Da Vinci Code movie belongs in the movie forum, but I will not go see it not because I think it's blasphemous, but because the movie's premise does not hold my interest. I'm more stoked to see X3 and POTC 2.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

For some reason so many people have a huge problem with the idea that Jesus would be married. Now, I am a pretty hardcore Christian, Church every single Sunday, pay 10% income to tithing, the whole shabang, and I honestly do not see why Jesus wouldn't get married. Now some denominations believe in celebecy and I could see where Jesus having a marital status would be contrast to their believes, but for the rest of the Christians, what's the beef?

The problem is Christianity, the more conservative you are about it, can become a very fragile belief system.

 

[JewishHobbit]

It could be taken as the Da Vinci Book as well, which I'm more thinking of. And just so everyone knows, I haven't read the book yet. I don't plan on going about claiming why he's wrong and stupid or whatever. That's why I'm just finding sites who have done the research and know what they're talking about.

 

[user123456789]

Well, I think talking about the Da Vinci Code movie belongs in the movie forum, but I will not go see it not because I think it's blasphemous, but because the movie's premise does not hold my interest. I'm more stoked to see X3 and POTC 2.

and SR?!

 

[Strange]

Some of the links I posted should give some info as to why this wouldn't have happened. (I think I posted those links, I've looked through a lot today) But anyhow, as christian I'll say this. Be careful what ideas you throw out there. I know that you're throwing it out as an idea, and there's nothing wrong with that, but unless you have some factual idea of why this could have happened, be careful. I could easily see someone taking your idea and running with it, and then it falls in part on your shoulders that this person has left or never came to God. Be careful what ideas of religion you throw out without knowing the full stories, or at least what we know of them.

I agree, I was just playing devils advocate and there was a show on the history channel or something that delt with it. Again, it is my personal opinion that people should not take choosing a faith lightly or by the words of a few people. That is why I don't care for the baptisim of people who are really too young to make a decision for themself. Most people are raised in a religion and never explore all their options, they just take what was their parents and make it their own. I think this is very sad in my opinion.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I agree, I was just playing devils advocate and there was a show on the history channel or something that delt with it. Again, it is my personal opinion that people should not take choosing a faith lightly or by the words of a few people. That is why I don't care for the baptisim of people who are really too young to make a decision for themself. Most people are raised in a religion and never explore all their options, they just take what was their parents and make it their own. I think this is very sad in my opinion.

Yeah, this I'll agree with. I think Baptisms should be the person being baptised's choice, and I think a person should follow their faith because they believe it, not because their parents make them. It's hard to say that because if someone's following for any reason it's good, but it's always best to have faith based on your own decision.

 

[SuperDude]

You guys don't see the problem? The problem is that sex, and therefore relationships and marriages, although being necessary and condoned, are still considered a sin. It's seen as an impurity to engage in sex, even though it's a necessary impurity. That's why priests and nuns don't marry, because they're suppose to be more pure

I know this is tru for Catholics, but do other Christians beleive this also.

And; wasn't the first commandment given to Adam and Eve to "multiply and replenish the Earth?" I don't think God would command Adam and Eve to do something that was a sin. Where is it that the celebecy doctrine comes from?

 

[JewishHobbit]

I'm Pentecostal and we prefur our pastors married. And I think the idea of celebacy is shown through the bible, but a specific mention is when Paul said something along the lines of it's better to remain single and focused on God, but if you can't then marry. I forget exactly where it's at, but I could look it up if needed.

 

[Admiral_N8]

Yep. I think Earth would be better off without humans on it sometimes. Just look what we do to our environment and other humans. It's ghastly how cold and vicious the whole of humanity is. Just look at what we see on the news every night. It's sick how we are destroying everything that should be preserved in this world.

Yes you seem to overlook the 97% of humanity that just goes about their lives, goes to work, pays their taxes, respects their neighbors, and just tries to live happily with their family.

 

[The Squirrel]

For some reason so many people have a huge problem with the idea that Jesus would be married. Now, I am a pretty hardcore Christian, Church every single Sunday, pay 10% income to tithing, the whole shabang, and I honestly do not see why Jesus wouldn't get married. Now some denominations believe in celebecy and I could see where Jesus having a marital status would be contrast to their believes, but for the rest of the Christians, what's the beef?

I don't see why it matters much either.

But I do believe that if God wanted it in the Bible, it would have been in the Bible. and it seems like Jesus' wedding would have been a big event to put into the Bible.

Therefore I don't think Jesus was married.

 

[lordofthenerds]

You guys shouldn't even be discussing relegion on these boards if you don't understand it, Jesus was said to be the "Son of God" the son of God didn't come down to Earth have sexual relationships. If you don't believe in God you can have all kinds of crazy beliefs like Dan Brown just you shouldn't be sharing them.

 

[SuperDude]

I'm Pentecostal and we prefur our pastors married. And I think the idea of celebacy is shown through the bible, but a specific mention is when Paul said something along the lines of it's better to remain single and focused on God, but if you can't then marry. I forget exactly where it's at, but I could look it up if needed.

I think I remember reading this as well. Though when I read it I didn't think he meant staying single forever, though my beliefs on the subject could have influenced that. If you know what scripture it is that would be great.

 

[DarthRekal]

good question! ...if jesus shouldnt and didnt get married..WHY SHOULD WE?????


wouldnt it make us LESS in his image????

 

[DareDemon]

You guys don't see the problem? The problem is that sex, and therefore relationships and marriages, although being necessary and condoned, are still considered a sin. It's seen as an impurity to engage in sex, even though it's a necessary impurity. That's why priests and nuns don't marry, because they're suppose to be more pure.

That just depends on the denomination. It's a sin to have sex BEFORE marriage, but after marriage you can have all the fun you want, as long as it's with your spouse. But I've never heard of, say, Catholics thinking it was a sin even if they were married.

 

[SuperDude]

after marriage you can have all the fun you want

Yeah buddy!

 

[SuperDude]

You guys shouldn't even be discussing relegion on these boards if you don't understand it, Jesus was said to be the "Son of God" the son of God didn't come down to Earth have sexual relationships. If you don't believe in God you can have all kinds of crazy beliefs like Dan Brown just you shouldn't be sharing them.

Except God command us to multiply and replenish the Earth and in order for Jesus to be perfect doesn't he have to follow all of the Lord's commandments? That is why he was baptized, correct? So wouldn't it make sense for him to marry and maybe even have kids? I'm not saying for sure he was but I definately think it it's a possibility.

 

[E. Bison]

Well, I can easily set thing straight here to begin with. Jesus was NEVER married because the Bible never said he was. If he was married it would have been no big deal since he would have still been pure if he got married. No where in the bible does it say you become IMPURE if you get married. That's only if you commit fornication and adultery. The whole celibacy thing IS NOT and I repeat IS NOT originally Christian. The origin of celibacy is pagan.

Jesus didn't get married because his purpose on Earth was not for his own enjoyment. It was so he can do God's will on earrth and open up a new convenent with the Gentile nations since the Law at the time only applied to the Jews. Also, he had to die and HE KNEW THIS so he can open up the way for the Gentiles and Jews alike. This is why he couldn't get married because marriage is a responsibility of its own. It would have distracted him from his preaching work.

 

[Darren Daring]

Jesus didn't get married because his purpose on Earth was not for his own enjoyment.

[14 year old virgin]Yeah, but marraige sure as hell ain't no enjoyable, yo. Yo![/14 year old virgin]

 

[SuperDude]

Well, I can easily set thing straight here to begin with. Jesus was NEVER married because the Bible never said he was. If he was married it would have been no big deal since he would have still been pure if he got married. No where in the bible does it say you become IMPURE if you get married. That's only if you commit fornication and adultery. The whole celibacy thing IS NOT and I repeat IS NOT originally Christian. The origin of celibacy is pagan.

Jesus didn't get married because his purpose on Earth was not for his own enjoyment. It was so he can do God's will on earrth and open up a new convenent with the Gentile nations since the Law at the time only applied to the Jews. Also, he had to die and HE KNEW THIS so he can open up the way for the Gentiles and Jews alike. This is why he couldn't get married because marriage is a responsibility of its own. It would have distracted him from his preaching work.

True, but like I said before. He had to follow all the commandments and one of them is "multiply and replenish the Earth."

I suppose it will be while before any of us know for sure though (unless you get run over or shot or something). And I don't think the answer is pertinant to our salvation, though it is fun to speculate.

 

[E. Bison]

[14 year old virgin]Yeah, but marraige sure as hell ain't no enjoyable, yo. Yo![/14 year old virgin]

Of course marriage is enjoyable. It's just that people don't know HOW to be married. People are lazy and don't fix problems before they get worse. The Bible gives good advice on how to keep a good marriage, raise a family, and find solutions to problems. What's the whole reference to a 14 year old virgin got to do with anything?

 

[Darren Daring]

Of course marriage is enjoyable. It's just that people don't know HOW to be married. People are lazy and don't fix problems before they get worse. The Bible gives good advice on how to keep a good marriage, raise a family, and find solutions to problems. What's the whole reference to a 14 year old virgin got to do with anything?

Just idiots thinking marraige is a self contained hell

 

[SuperDude]

[14 year old virgin]Yeah, but marraige sure as hell ain't no enjoyable, yo. Yo![/14 year old virgin]

Hehe, you know I've never understood this frame of mind. I'm just 19 and I can't wait to get married. I think it'll be a blast. (in AND out of the bedroom, for the record. )