The Rise of Skywalker JJ Abrams is Writing and Directing Episode IX

[wampa1]

The Jedi Rises.

Yeah, because there are't enough films with Rise/Rises in the title.

I hope it's not another 'The' title.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I mean I'm a little worried that maybe he isn't able to, but I'm just hoping that maybe because of them being his characters, he knocks it out the park. One thing tho that I hate is that the Knights of Ren weren't included in VIII. I mean they could have been a huge part of this. But hell, what can we do now

They could be a huge part of Episode IX. I think it would make sense. I hope I am wrong about Abrams, I really do. Just makes me nervous given that I feel TLJ injected creativity that this series desperately needed and opened so many new possibilities on where this next one can go and ideas it can explore, and I don't want to see it become like a ROTJ rehash or something.

 

[terry78]

An Order Restored. Bam, there's your title.

 

[2kt09]

All New All Different

 

[wampa1]

All New All Different

Yeah, unlikely under JJ.

 

[2kt09]

Yeah, unlikely under JJ.

Terrio's got diz

 

[BigSams50]

They can still have a role now. It does make a lot of sense for them to appear now that [BLACKOUT]Kylo Ren has taken control of the First Order. It would be fun if you had half the First Order unsatisfied by Ren leading, while he himself would be using the knights as a way to solidify his reign.[/BLACKOUT]

Spoiler

I mean im hoping they are, i just think having them shown or even reference to in TLJ would have helped establish them more. Especially to the GA who might not have caught Snoke calling him the Master of the Knights of Ren. Now as for Ren using his Knights to solidify his reign, hell ****ing yes please.

They could be a huge part of Episode IX. I think it would make sense. I hope I am wrong about Abrams, I really do. Just makes me nervous given that I feel TLJ injected creativity that this series desperately needed and opened so many new possibilities on where this next one can go and ideas it can explore, and I don't want to see it become like a ROTJ rehash or something.

Jesus, i actually didnt think that he might actually go the ROTJ route. THe way Kylos character is being used maybe they tempt a Vader type of redemption, me personally i hope not. I agree with you, VIII in my opinion freshened Star Wars a little bit, it added on to the mythos instead of just rehashing. I cant take a ROTJ 2.0 like the TFA was of ANH, and i hope Abrams knows that we as fans dont want that

 

[Brother Jack]

They could be a huge part of Episode IX. I think it would make sense. I hope I am wrong about Abrams, I really do. Just makes me nervous given that I feel TLJ injected creativity that this series desperately needed and opened so many new possibilities on where this next one can go and ideas it can explore, and I don't want to see it become like a ROTJ rehash or something.

TLJ almost makes it impossible for IX to be a ROTJ ripoff because it already covered that material. They teed up the opening for a Vader-style redemption and then subverted it. Kylo is definitively bad, there's no going back from that without undoing his his whole arc in TLJ.

That doesn't mean Abrams can't ape other aspects of ROTJ, though. I've said it before but it bears repeating: if there's another Deathstar in IX we're gonna have a problem.

 

[Spider-Fan]

TLJ almost makes it impossible for IX to be a ROTJ ripoff because it already covered that material. They teed up the opening for a Vader-style redemption and then subverted it. Kylo is definitively bad, there's no going back from that without undoing his his whole arc in TLJ.

That doesn't mean Abrams can't ape other aspects of ROTJ, though. I've said it before but it bears repeating: if there's another Deathstar in IX we're gonna have a problem.

If we get another Deathstar, I swear I will just walk out of the cinema, LOL!

 

[Tacit Ronin]

How about a bipedal death star? A metal death star gear?

 

[Arachnerd]

A Death Star Transformer. Would most likely be better than Michael Bay's films combined.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Terrio's got diz

Like he got BvS!

 

[NotNickFury]

Would be nice if Princess Kylo actually came off as a threat in this one. By humanizing him in both films, sure, the audience is on his side a bit, but that's the point. He's 0 for 2 as far as being a threat to the resistance.

And I don't see how he'd be any more of a credible threat in IX than he has in Force Awakens and Last Jedi, especially if he ends up turning since we see that he wants to just burn the whole thing down. That or Rey actually have some semblance of a struggle or challenge because she certainly hasn't had one yet.

 

[terry78]

I think there's more going on with him than we think. Too many gaps in what happened between him being born and now.

 

[NotNickFury]

Well, what we have of him right now isn't as compelling as it could be, particularly when Hux giving the command to destroy those planets in Force Awakens came off as more threatening and menacing than what Kylo's done.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Why didn't JJ Abrams direct episode 8?

 

[Elayis]

Why does Kylo have to fit the same "threatening" mold as Darth Vader? He's not the cliche, archetypal villain. He reminds me a lot of Tetsuo from Akira, frightened, insecure and angry, which actually makes for a more frightening combination because he's unpredictable. He isn't doing this out of some misguided altruism, he just hates himself and wants the whole universe to feel his pain.

If Abrams does this correctly, with Kylo now as Supreme Leader IX should definitely be the time that he comes into his own. He's the guy in charge now, and hopefully that translates to a more menacing aura.

Why didn't JJ Abrams direct episode 8?

That was never in the cards the way the production and release schedules were arranged. It would've been physically impossible for the director of VII to do
VIII. John was writing TLJ's script while TFA was filming, and was already shooting some scenes before TFA was even released.

 

[BigSams50]

Would be nice if Princess Kylo actually came off as a threat in this one. By humanizing him in both films, sure, the audience is on his side a bit, but that's the point. He's 0 for 2 as far as being a threat to the resistance.

And I don't see how he'd be any more of a credible threat in IX than he has in Force Awakens and Last Jedi, especially if he ends up turning since we see that he wants to just burn the whole thing down. That or Rey actually have some semblance of a struggle or challenge because she certainly hasn't had one yet.

I think VII and VIII were him being humanized as his battle of good vs evil was a conflict for him,, but him basically seeing Snoke dead and the throne empty, i think that symbolizes his full turn to dark. I mean he ordered his team to crush the rebellion on Crayt, no survivors, even tho he knew his mother was there, and he shot HoloLuke like a million times. I think IX is the movie where we see Kylo finally not giving a ****.

 

[MaceB]

I think Kylo's pain has just begun. As he wages a viscous war, I bet Rey will try everything to convert him back to the light. His dark world view will be challenged, but ultimately he'll choose darkness. The opposite of Luke, he's a Sith like his Grandfather before him. Rey will have to destroy him, not in anger... but in pity for his lost soul and what must be done.

That'd be different. Just spitballing.

JJ directing is both a good thing a bad thing I feel. He's a quality director and I think he understands the Star Wars aesthetic and storytelling style. That's both his greatest strength and weakness here. TLJ propped him up for a special, one of a kind, unique Star Wars film. I only hope he takes that mantle and uses it boldly but wisely.

 

[terry78]

Yeah, I feel like the fate of Snoke was kind of them subverting that whole thing where every Star Wars story has that one big bad who is just like the ultimate evil. Now with this saga it's just another guy.

 

[BigSams50]

I think Kylo's pain has just begun. As he wages a viscous war, I bet Rey will try everything to convert him back to the light. His dark world view will be challenged, but ultimately he'll choose darkness. The opposite of Luke, he's a Sith like his Grandfather before him. Rey will have to destroy him, not in anger... but in pity for his lost soul and what must be done.

That'd be different. Just spitballing.

JJ directing is both a good thing a bad thing I feel. He's a quality director and I think he understands the Star Wars aesthetic and storytelling style. That's both his greatest strength and weakness here. TLJ propped him up for a special, one of a kind, unique Star Wars film. I only hope he takes that mantle and uses it boldly but wisely.

Doesnt Rey kind of accept that Kylo cant be saved at the end of TLJ though?

Yeah, I feel like the fate of Snoke was kind of them subverting that whole thing where every Star Wars story has that one big bad who is just like the ultimate evil. Now with this saga it's just another guy.

Kylo isnt exactly just another guy. He is next in the Skywalker line, and he is powerful in the force as we've seen. Its why Hux basically said "ok youre the boss" when he got choked because Kylo is on another level. That being said, TLJ i wish would have ended a little differently for Kylo, maybe have him be a little more assertive.

 

[BigSams50]

Mod delete this made a mistake.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Simon Pegg*: (35:40) "I imagine they probably made it so that [J. J. Abrams] couldn't say no [to coming back for Star Wars: Episode IX]...and I know J. J. cares deeply about the characters and everything and you know as he's said he's closing out nine films - he's not just making a sequel to [Star Wars:] The Last Jedi - he's making the closing [episode] and he has to embrace all nine of them, all eight of them rather. So I was a little surprised because after [Star Wars:] The Force Awakens you know he sort of - I'd go to Bad Robot to work and he'd just be hanging around, had a bit of a beard <laughs> - I was like, 'What are you doing?' 'I don't know,' [he said]. You know he'd just sort of...I don't know I felt like...I felt the same way after Star Trek Beyond. I felt like 'What do I want to do now?'" "But I think J. J. was like scratching his chin about 'What am I gonna do now?' you know and I think when this came about obviously the idea of managing to close out the stories that he began with The Force Awakens must have felt like you know eventually too much to resist."

"Well I know...I know what J. J. kind of intended [for Rey's parentage] or at least what was being chucked around. I think that's kind of been undone slightly by the last one [in Star Wars: The Last Jedi]. I don't know. I. Don't. Know. <laughs> I think Unkar Plutt is Rey's real father. <laughs> Yeah [Plutt seems like a good father.] <laughs> He was just trying to keep...obesity is a big problem on Jakku. I can't remember what [alien race Plutt] is." "But [Plutt] was worried about Rey gaining weight so he didn't want to give her too many portions you know - limit that." "[So it was going to be different parents for Rey when you were on set chit-chatting?] Well there was some talk about you know a kind of relevant lineage for her. But I honestly don't know [now]. I don't know if anybody knows, you know. We shall see."

"Yeah [fans like yourself have undying curiosity about the sequel trilogy treatment by George Lucas]. I...yeah. No [it's not maybe horrible.] Everybody got - including myself we all got sort of very down on George because of the [Star Wars] prequels but I feel like...no, not you [Josh Horowitz]...and who's laughing now? I think it's like you look at Star Wars - look at the first three [episodes] and you have George Lucas working with a Gary Kurtz or whoever, people who are kind of there to manage his incredible imagination and his ideas and sort of practicalize everything, you know? And I think that combination was what made it all so special and so great. Then you have the prequels which in my opinion you know [where] maybe George's wild untethered brilliance wasn't reigned in enough and his thirst for new technology and maybe it didn't work as well - for me it didn't work as well. And I feel like I miss George a little bit, you know?" "Well I think [George Lucas] is a visionary. You realize it wasn't just TIE fighters and AT-ATs and seeing things like that again do not a Star Wars film make. It's kind of...there's a spirit there and I hope the guys that are now in charge - I know J. J. obviously does - keeps that alive." "I don't know if I care enough [to write or direct a Star Wars movie] anymore. And that's down to The Force Awakens - the coming together of my childhood dreams - I felt like it was like sort of like post-orgasmic malaise. <laughs> Now I'm just like, 'Hey, there's a Han Solo movie,' I'm kind of...I don't feel like it's for me anymore. And I'm not saying I'm beyond it in some way, I just mean that it's for other people now and God bless them! May the Force be with them. <laughs>" (April 2018)

* Simon Pegg played Unkar Plutt in Star Wars: The Force Awakens and contributed ideas to its script and was an on set consultant.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Wall Street Journal - Intrigue and Drama on the Han Solo Set

Colin Trevorrow, the director of “Jurassic World” initially tapped to helm the next “Star Wars” movie, 2019’s Episode IX, was dismissed after Ms. Kennedy grew unhappy with his work on the script, said a person with knowledge of his work on the movie.

A firm and decisive hand is needed in running a major Hollywood franchise, and Ms. Kennedy’s supporters say she has worked well with J.J. Abrams, director of 2015’s “The Force Awakens,” and Rian Johnson on last year’s “The Last Jedi.” Others say she has too frequently second-guessed her own choices and hasn’t effectively resolved disagreements with directors.

Mr. Johnson said he felt Ms. Kennedy gave him a “creative bubble” that empowered him “to tell the story I cared about in the way I wanted to tell it.”

Mr. Abrams said he had differences of opinion “all the time” with Ms. Kennedy, but that she “really takes in what people say and finds a creative way to aggregate and distill the conversation.”

The next “Star Wars” movie, Episode IX, is expected to start shooting in July, but its director drama is already in full swing.

Ms. Kennedy was a fan of Mr. Trevorrow’s work from his independent film “Safety Not Guaranteed” and recommended him to her husband Frank Marshall, who produced “Jurassic World.” Soon after the dinosaur blockbuster was released in 2015, Mr. Trevorrow was hired to write and direct Episode IX and successfully pitched Ms. Kennedy, Mr. Horn and Disney chief executive Robert Iger on his vision for the sequel, said the person with knowledge of his work.

But Ms. Kennedy was unhappy with drafts Mr. Trevorrow co-wrote and one written by “Harry Potter and the Cursed Child” playwright Jack Thorne for him to direct. Mr. Trevorrow wasn’t satisfied with Mr. Thorne’s script either and asked to try again, the person close to Episode IX said, but Ms. Kennedy instead fired Mr. Trevorrow last August.

Lucasfilm considered rehiring Mr. Johnson, a person with knowledge of the matter said, though the director said there were no serious discussions. Instead, Mr. Abrams took the job after Ms. Kennedy called him following Mr. Trevorrow’s exit.

“I had a bunch of ideas from the beginning, back on VII, of where the story would go,” said Mr. Abrams. “I just never in my wildest dreams thought I would have a chance to execute them.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/intrigue-and-drama-on-the-han-solo-set-1525961998

 

[TheVileOne]

Maybe they need to hammer all these things down before they announce who is going to write and direct these films.