The Rise of Skywalker JJ Abrams is Writing and Directing Episode IX

[Marvolo]

Maybe they need to hammer all these things down before they announce who is going to write and direct these films.

Itd be hard to keep the identity of the director a secret until pre-production is done.

 

[Aximili86]

That almost seems the problem to me, the PR on this stuff. Wouldn't have fixed things with Lord & Miller since their stuff happened on-set, but like...maybe don't announce Trevorrow until there's a script you're both in agreement on?

Might have saved them on some of the fan freakout.

 

[MOVIELORD101]

And yet, there are people screaming right now over this stuff and saying "Oh if Kathleen Kennedy fired Trevrow over Episode 9's script, it probably was a good script" and are DEMONIZING Rian Johnson over TLJ. Read a bunch of comments on this here IGN article on the matter and it's disgusting:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/05...s-is-reportedly-why-colin-trevorrow-was-fired

And yet, those commenters clearly forgotten how bad The Book of Henry was. Buncha ****ing inconsiderate bratty babies, I swear to God. They don't know what they want.

 

[Pennywise]

The producers should make sure they and the director see eye to eye before they're signed

 

[MOVIELORD101]

The producers should make sure they and the director see eye to eye before they're signed

Agreed. But i don't see why there's people demonizing Rian Johnson over TLJ. That movie was actually damn good and it's a shame a good chunk of people don't see it that way.

 

[Pennywise]

Agreed. But i don't see why there's people demonizing Rian Johnson over TLJ. That movie was actually damn good and it's a shame a good chunk of people don't see it that way.

I also thought it was great! I mean, it wasn't perfect, but almost all of the films have flaws, expect for ESB, IMO.

 

[TheVileOne]

Agreed. But i don't see why there's people demonizing Rian Johnson over TLJ. That movie was actually damn good and it's a shame a good chunk of people don't see it that way.

It's one simple reason. He killed Luke Skywalker. I don't agree with demonizing him. But that's the main reason people are upset with him that leads to everything else.

 

[Aximili86]

Half the fanbase are unstable irrational morons, MovieLord, there's not really much anyone can do about it. Rian's handled it with class since the start though.

 

[Frodo]

Criticism of a director /writers choices are fine, even if they're passionate.

The problem is if it gets personal and creepy towards Johnson. I disagree with alot of his choices but I've got nothing against him as person or creator.

Fanboys who love and hate TLJ need to mature a bit, and not treat this whole thing as if we're debating issues war and peace.

Getting back on the topic of this thread, I'm skeptical about the reddit plot summary of Episode 9.

It's possible they were ideas and potential storylines that were brainstormed at some point , but I remain skeptical as to their validity. I doubt anything JJ and Terrio have been brainstorming on has been leaked at this early a date.

 

[Gothamsknight]

The amount of hate people have projected towards Rian Johnson have actually made me sick of hearing about the Last Jedi, despite me loving it. It's my 4th fave Star Wars film, right under the Force Awakens.

 

[Reaver027]

Agreed. But i don't see why there's people demonizing Rian Johnson over TLJ. That movie was actually damn good and it's a shame a good chunk of people don't see it that way.

Because he literally ruined one of their childhood heroes in addition to killing him. And because of that i decided for myself to never watch a movie that is made by him ever again. And if that means i have to skip Star Wars movies so be it.

I have high hopes in JJ that he can and will turn this ship around. I loved TFA. Thought JJ walked a very fine line there between pure nostalgia and introducing new characters.

 

[Aximili86]

"Ruined". Like that's not totally subjective.

Aaaannnnddddd the other half of the fandom basically thinks the choices made Luke better. Get off the ol' high horse, champ.

Also, you'll watch his other upcoming Star Wars movies, don't pretend otherwise. It's Star Wars.

 

[Frodo]

I suspect JJ's film will be very safe and will try to please everyone , which will be fine for the average joe and jane going to the movies. But that may turn off those fanboys who want bold moves more along the lines of what Johnson did with TLJ.

Given the events of TLJ, and Fisher's unfortunate passing, the third film could in alot of ways almost be a reboot in that the story slate will be pretty clean. Its not the usual place to be for the third film in a trilogy to be in.

However, if they treat the story of 9 more like the third film in a series of films , ala Skyfall to CR and QOS, and Batman Forever to B89 and BR, they could make a very good film which ends Rey, Kylo, Finn, and Poe's story.

Further, they can do it in a way which leaves the fanboy pro and con baggage of TLJ at the door and doesn't bring it into Episode 9.

 

[Gothamsknight]

I find it hilarious how some people think Rian Johnson actually whent back in time to the people who hated the films childhood and slapped their mothers haha. Seriously, get over it.

 

[Frodo]

The producers should make sure they and the director see eye to eye before they're signed

Well, it sounded like in the Lord and Miller case, and with Colin, it seemed that they were all on the same page but that the writer/directors began to shift into doing their own thing or doing it in a way that wasn't satisfactory.

In Solo's case it was much easier to resolve the issue since they already had a script by Kasdan which Lord and Miller wanted to deviate from. The ultimatum was, follow the script or leave.

With Colin , it sounds like they liked his pitch but the scripts we'rent to their liking. I won't make a judgment about whether they were good or not since I haven't read them. They could have stunk or they may not have gone in the direction the producers wanted to go. At this point we don't know for sure.

We've haven't heard about any issues with Abrams and Terrio at this point , so for now we can assume they all seem on the same page with Episode 9. Time will tell if there's trouble in paradise.

 

[Aximili86]

George still holds the crown for most-of-these-people's-bull****-absorbed though, heh, with the "raped our childhoods" stuff.

But seriously, these types need to get out more.

 

[Gothamsknight]

Anybody else find The clickbait videos on youtube pathetic? You know the ones who try to make you think Rian Johnson is laughing at Mark Hamill and calling him names? These people are delusional.

 

[Frodo]

Anybody else find The clickbait videos on youtube pathetic? You know the ones who try to make you think Rian Johnson is laughing at Mark Hamill and calling him names? These people are delusional.

At this point, I'm very much beyond all the sw fanboy bs surrounding TLJ, including the articles and youtube videos.

TLJ has come and gone through the theaters, and my own focus now is speculation about what JJ is gonna do for nine.

Its easy clickbait because they know most fanboys can't and won't let things go, and they waste their time flaming and replying to nonsense that they deal out to each other.

Having an actual discussion and dialog is less interesting than it is stir up fanboys rage and get clicks or hits. And it works very well, because this is one of those geek films in which fanboys want to keep arguing about.

 

[henzINNIT]

I don't know what did more to kill off TLJ conversation, the divisive film itself or the ugly, spiteful attitude surrounding it.



I'm really happy to have JJ back. The Force Awakens got me in the feels. I won't mind him playing it "safe" if he can close the trilogy with warmth and catharsis. I can't really picture an obvious end, so I believe he will avoid retreading too much. If there is a Starkiller 2 though... I'm out.

 

[Marvolo]

Well, it sounded like in the Lord and Miller case, and with Colin, it seemed that they were all on the same page but that the writer/directors began to shift into doing their own thing or doing it in a way that wasn't satisfactory.

In Solo's case it was much easier to resolve the issue since they already had a script by Kasdan which Lord and Miller wanted to deviate from. The ultimatum was, follow the script or leave.

With Colin , it sounds like they liked his pitch but the scripts we'rent to their liking. I won't make a judgment about whether they were good or not since I haven't read them. They could have stunk or they may not have gone in the direction the producers wanted to go. At this point we don't know for sure.

We've haven't heard about any issues with Abrams and Terrio at this point , so for now we can assume they all seem on the same page with Episode 9. Time will tell if there's trouble in paradise.

Idk how true it is, but one thing I read was that Colin was butting heads with Disney over Luke's death in TLJ. He wanted him alive in Episode 9. Then Fisher died and suddenly Colin had no living Luke Skywalker in Episode 9 and had to deal with Leia because Disney and Rian didnt do any reshoots for TLJ to give her any sort of ending in TLJ. Colin was in a hell of a bind.

 

[Frodo]

Idk how true it is, but one thing I read was that Colin was butting heads with Disney over Luke's death in TLJ. He wanted him alive in Episode 9. Then Fisher died and suddenly Colin had no living Luke Skywalker in Episode 9 and had to deal with Leia because Disney and Rian didnt do any reshoots for TLJ to give her any sort of ending in TLJ. Colin was in a hell of a bind.

Yeah, I'd heard that story as well but I don't know if its true. The assumption by geek pundits was that his script was bad, but unless you're on the inside of the production its hard to say.

They liked his pitch so its not as if they felt he was an awful choice or didn't like the direction he was going in. In the end his finished product wasn't satisfactory to them for whatever reason.

 

[Aximili86]

Uhh, of course they didn't like the direction Colin's script was going in. They fired him over not liking the direction the movie was going in.

 

[Frodo]

Uhh, of course they didn't like the direction Colin's script was going in. They fired him over not liking the direction the movie was going in.

Yeaaah, that's pretty much what I said in two earlier posts in this thread.

Good talk.

 

[Aximili86]

"its not as if they felt he was an awful choice or didn't like the direction he was going in"

You're all over the place here, champ. Pretty clearly the direction it was going in, post-being-hired, was causing a problem.

Pitching an idea is one thing, writing a suitable script is another.

 

[Frodo]

]"its not as if they felt he was an awful choice or didn't like the direction he was going [/B]

You're all over the place here, champ. Pretty clearly the direction it was going in, post-being-hired, was causing a problem.

Pitching an idea is one thing, writing a suitable script is another.

I'm in one place champ, but its clear you only looked at my most recent post.

I was talking about his pitch champ. If you'd looked earlier in even on the same page you would have seen my quote basically saying what you just repeated .