The Dark Knight Rises Joseph Gordon-Levitt as John Blake IV

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[DrMylesOBoogie]

From the link in general. Was this confirmed before?



http://cinewebradio.com/index.php?o...ark-knight-rises-&catid=29:the-news&Itemid=41

I'll actually be a little disappointed if he doesn't turn out to be Grayson now. It's all pointing to it being a real possibility. Jonah Nolan said you can't have a definitive batman without including Catwoman. Same has to be said for Dick Grayson, wheter he dons a Robin suit or not.

 

[craigdbfan]

People had theorized that he might have been due to being around the orphan kids so much. Awesome to finally see it confirmed.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Based on the John Blake = time-traveling Mr. Earle theory.

 

[AnneFan]

I'll actually be a little disappointed if he doesn't turn out to be Grayson now.

Hmm. If he turns out to be Grayson, why would he call himself John Blake instead?

 

[Immoral Cactus]

Spoiler

Based on the John Blake = time-traveling Mr. Earle theory.

You. Utter. Star.

 

[Street Vendor]

I think that the gun may reveal a clue about John Blake's character, but he may not be Earle. He might be another guy, out for revenge on the bad guys of Gotham.

To Bane: "You and your friends are dead!"

 

[ThePhantasm]

I think that the gun may reveal a clue about John Blake's character, but he may not be Earle.

No, this is Mr. Earle too. He is like Doctor Who. He takes many forms.

 

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Hmm. If he turns out to be Grayson, why would he call himself John Blake instead?

Dick's full-name is Richard John (after his father) Grayson and many people drop their first name if they favor their middle ones. This could be a tribute to his late father. As for the Blake, it's not too much of a stretch that he was fostered or adopted by a family of Blake's. There could also be other reason's for changing a surname, like if his parents were murdered by the mob.

The thing is, as we learn more about Blake, it would almost seem like a missed opportunity for it not to be Grayson and make this film series truly definitive.

 

[ThePhantasm]

As for the Blake, it's not too much of a stretch that he was fostered or adopted by a family of Blake's. There could also be other reason's for changing a surname, like if his parents were murdered by the mob.

Also "Blake" rhymes with "Drake."

 

[Immoral Cactus]

Also "Blake" rhymes with "Drake."

John Blake becomes a cave-dwelling dragon confirmed!

 

[ThePhantasm]

John Blake becomes a cave-dwelling dragon confirmed!

*cough*TimDrake*cough*

 

[MrWayne]

Dick's full-name is Richard John (after his father) Grayson and many people drop their first name if they favor their middle ones. This could be a tribute to his late father. As for the Blake, it's not too much of a stretch that he was fostered or adopted by a family of Blake's. There could also be other reason's for changing a surname, like if his parents were murdered by the mob.

The thing is, as we learn more about Blake, it would almost seem like a missed opportunity for it not to be Grayson and make this film series truly definitive.

Really?? I respectfully disagree. Robin is not definitve of what makes Batman, and I dont think not including Dick Grayson would make this film any less definitive. That's like saying you cant have Batman without Robin, and that's just not true.

 

[Immoral Cactus]

*cough*TimDrake*cough*

Oh. Disappointing.

I really wanted to see Batman fight a dragon.

 

[ThePhantasm]

I really wanted to see Batman fight a dragon.

Well, after all, he is the dark "knight"

 

[Immoral Cactus]

I think we've managed to completely derail this thread between the two of us.

Well, after all, he is the dark "knight"

Yeah but dragons aren't realistic. They're extinct.

 

[craigdbfan]

John Blake is whoever we need him to be. Call it in.

 

[Immoral Cactus]

John Blake is whoever we need him to be. Call it in.

Well I need a back rub. So he's a masseur.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Well I need a back rub. So he's a masseur.

Aren't you thinking of Bruce? I'm pretty sure Alfred calls him "Masseur Wayne"

 

[DrMylesOBoogie]

That's like saying you cant have Batman without Robin, and that's just not true.

The why was he created? And why has he sustained for so long?

 

[Immoral Cactus]

Aren't you thinking of Bruce? I'm pretty sure Alfred calls him "Masseur Wayne"

 

[BecomeALegend]

Ra's al Ghul became a legend by having many men devoted to taking up his mantle.

What is the first thing Christopher Nolan reminded us about? What was the first piece of footage we saw in relation to TDKR? Bruce Wayne walking the mountains, with Ra's al Ghul's words: "If you make yourself more than just a man (more than one man), if you devoted yourself to an ideal...you become a legend."

 

[Immoral Cactus]

Ra's al Ghul became a legend by having many men devoted to taking up his mantle.

What is the first thing Christopher Nolan reminded us about? What was the first piece of footage we saw in relation to TDKR? Bruce Wayne walking the mountains, with Ra's al Ghul's words: "If you make yourself more than just a man (more than one man), if you devoted yourself to an ideal...you become a legend."

All good, but they devoted themselves to taking up his cause, not his mantle. Which Blake will do for Batman. But not as Batman.

 

[BecomeALegend]

All good, but they devoted themselves to taking up his cause, not his mantle. Which Blake will do for Batman. But not as Batman.

Then how did Ra's al Ghul survive through centuries, if other men didn't take up his mantle? In Begins, Neeson's character talks of the League of Shadows being responsible for the sacking of Rome. Are you suggesting that Liam Neeson's character was alive back then?

Batman Begins suggests that Ra's al Ghul is simply a rank, and Neeson's character is the latest to hold that position. It's Nolan's realistic take on the concept of immortality.