The Dark Knight Rises Joseph Gordon-Levitt as John Blake V

[Black Narcissus]

I still wonder what happened to The Joker during this whole period of time this movie covers. No way he'd just sit in his cell with everything going on. I kind of think that maybe Nolan's intention was to bring The Joker back for the 3rd movie due to what The Joker said to Batman at the end of TDK, but Ledger's death made him rethink TDKR's choice of villain and plot direction.

I think that was a nod by Nolan. I think the joker pretty much did everything in dk.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

^ I agree, craigdbfan. I think it was you who commented on my signature.

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It's funny that it all goes back to John Blake's name being an obvious alias. After all the debate about Blake being influenced by Grayson/Robin/etc. or not, his name was actually ROBIN. LOL. That was just so sweet, thinking about all the people who tried shooting down all the grounded theories for no better reason than because they were too proud to admit it was a strong possibility.

They were so hung up on the "No Robin" quotes from Nolan and Bale, quotes which obviously referred to the Robin we saw in Schumacher's films. Rational people looked at the bigger picture and knew that even with a different name, John Blake was more than just a cop. He would help lead the resistance in the middle of the movie, and this would set him up as a successor. I toyed with Blake having access to Batman's tech and dying in before Bruce's comeback, but that wasn't something I hinged on at all.

I enjoyed feeding some crow to a few people, even if they refuse to eat it or even look at the plate.

With how much JGL was featured in the trailers leading up to the release, I knew he was going to end up being much more than a regular beat cop working for Gordon. Plus, when you get an actor such as JGL, it won't be a small part.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

I ate my crow. And I'll admit, it tastes pretty nice.

 

[georgec]

With how much JGL was featured in the trailers leading up to the release, I knew he was going to end up being much more than a regular beat cop working for Gordon. Plus, when you get an actor such as JGL, it won't be a small part.

My favorite is this:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=23629121&postcount=75

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"And if they wanted to connect it to Grayson/Robin, then they'd probably use Grayson/Robin. But this is a young cop by the name of John Blake."

More gems in my sig.

 

[db85usa]

At the end, it really looked like JGL/Blake was going to slip and fall off the platform. I was really hoping to see Al The Boss show up but nope

 

[Art Damage]

I think that was a nod by Nolan. I think the joker pretty much did everything in dk.

Correct, they had two ideas for two films and combined them into TDK

 

[KalMart]

I ate my crow. And I'll admit, it tastes pretty nice.

So did I...it's definitely underrated.

I still wonder what happened to The Joker during this whole period of time this movie covers. No way he'd just sit in his cell with everything going on. I kind of think that maybe Nolan's intention was to bring The Joker back for the 3rd movie due to what The Joker said to Batman at the end of TDK, but Ledger's death made him rethink TDKR's choice of villain and plot direction.

I'm pretty sure that he said in and interview that if he was alive he'd definitely be coming back. Be kind of crazy not to. But admittedly, it's nice to have the variety of Bane being the main baddie...and having that Joker again would just be so domineering not matter what you did. Not that it's good that anyone died, but I despite my misgivings about parts of TDK, I don't feel the lack of Joker left a gaping hole in it.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

So did I...it's definitely underrated.


I'm pretty sure that he said in and interview that if he was alive he'd definitely be coming back. Be kind of crazy not to. But admittedly, it's nice to have the variety of Bane being the main baddie...and having that Joker again would just be so domineering not matter what you did. Not that it's good that anyone died, but I despite my misgivings about parts of TDK, I don't feel the lack of Joker left a gaping hole in it.

I feel that The Joker would have made a much better villain for the third movie than the second. It just seems odd not to have Batman's biggest nemesis in the closing film of the trilogy. Bane is imposing and all, but I kind of see him as sort of a letdown for an ending villain.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

I always viewed The Joker as the Batman's first real "freak" threat so his inclusion in TDK was perfect.

 

[KalMart]

I feel that The Joker would have made a much better villain for the third movie than the second. It just seems odd not to have Batman's biggest nemesis in the closing film of the trilogy. Bane is imposing and all, but I kind of see him as sort of a letdown for an ending villain.

It's a different take altogether, I guess. Joker wasn't all about military force and all, though, so it would have to be something different. Bane's thing kinda' seems like a natural progression in a lot of ways. I think in this Joker's probably dead...killed in prison or something.

I always viewed The Joker as the Batman's first real "freak" threat so his inclusion in TDK was perfect.

It certainly turned everything upside down. I guess TDKR gave Batman the opportunity to set it straight again.

 

[Capt Throbberson]

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So did anyone else have the horrifying revelation that spiderfreddie ended up being right the whole time?

With all the epic moments in the movie, nothing came close to the few seconds of Batman and Robin fighting side by side. I almost Squeed. It was the one thing I never expected out of these movies. Not to say that the other moments weren't epic, or even extremely epic, just none of them filled me with a genuine feeling of happiness and warmth than that one.

Blake was one of the most well handled characters in the movie. And JGL played it perfectly.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

Okay honestly:

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When did Batman and Robin fight side by side? All I saw was Robin break free and watch Batman beat the crap out of everyone in superstitious awe.

 

[Lucifer Maranda]

I actually think it's kind of cool that the Joker wasn't even mentioned in this film because it kind of gave the character this whole "The one who's name can never be spoken" he's so evil kind of cliche vibe, hahaha. He was almost like this menacing character you could see that still existed in Bruces battered psyche and partial reason for turning to a recluse.

 

[Liam_H]

Close as you can get without being back to back. Asking him to throw that bomb or telling him about hiding identities.

 

[Capt Throbberson]

Okay honestly:

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When did Batman and Robin fight side by side? All I saw was Robin break free and watch Batman beat the crap out of everyone in superstitious awe.

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Well, I think Blake might have punched one of them. That was good enough for me

 

[CapedCrusader14]

Well I never viewed either situations as such. Just seemed like Batman being a badass and teaching John some lessons.

Nevermind, does seem kind of Robin-ish

 

[LostSon88]

He took the main guy down. Then he watched Batman go to work.

 

[TIM BLAKE]

I'm glad all the doubters got owned,made the reveal even more sweet.All the months leading up to this film it was truly baffliing just how folks couldn't piece together that there was clearly more to Blake than him just being a cop.He was meant for bigger things.About the name I thought he be revealed as Grayson but seeing as how most folks wouldn't catch on this works better for the audience.Unbelievable,this film has everything I ever wanted to see: Bane done right,Robin done right,Knightfall backbreak,this overthrows Batman Begins as my favorite Batfilm.This and Inception and BB and my top 3 of all time.

 

[KalMart]

Well to be fair, he was a cop...and a detective-until the very end of the film when he quit and decided to continue Batman's work as...something. His actual name being Robin was nice little nod. To me it felt like he'll be another Batman, but I guess the hypothetical question is whether it's important that Batman is believed to be dead so he'd have another name...and...if he does 'suit up'...Gordon'll already know who he is. But in general, they did it well.

 

[psylockolussus]

Hopefully maybe in 5 to 10 years there will be a sequel for this movie and will see JGL wearing his Robin costume. I know some people here doesn't think he's not Robin because of his full name but for me he's Robin. Why would they give him Robin in his name at the last few minutes of the movie if he's not Robin?

 

[itsthebatman]

I thought it was very well done. Other than Blake knowing

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Wayne was Batman all along (seriously, how?),

he was a well-written, rounded character with an interesting arc, and I LOVED

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the reveal of his real name and his entry into the batcave.

Great stuff.

 

[Jedm1991]

Well to be fair, he was a cop...and a detective-until the very end of the film when he quit and decided to continue Batman's work as...something. His actual name being Robin was nice little nod. To me it felt like he'll be another Batman, but I guess the hypothetical question is whether it's important that Batman is believed to be dead so he'd have another name...and...if he does 'suit up'...Gordon'll already know who he is. But in general, they did it well.

Yeah same, me and my friends had a debate that lasted for hours on whether he will be Batman or Robin, i think Batman

 

[KalMart]

He is for all intents and purposes this franchise's version of Robin, no doubt now. Bu I doubt that WB will go into a Robin spinoff series with just him an no Nolan & co....unless someone specifically comes along and writs out a new film. But if it's Nolan, it'd probably be a very tough sell...especially since they're rebooting Batman again.

Another question is...if they do a Batman reboot, most deal that they don't want another Batman origin...but if they go with Robin as well, should they do a Robin origin in the movie?

 

[KalMart]

Yeah same, me and my friends had a debate that lasted for hours on whether he will be Batman or Robin, i think Batman

I thought so too...but firstly, maybe it's important that Batman is considered dead. I mean, they built a memorial statue already. Secondly...even though he gave the mansion to the orphans (the Bat X-Academy? t, and the cave and everything to Blake....what's left and what kind of resources will Blake have to keep updating and re-equipping like Wayne did when he was swimming in dough? He left his job as a cop, so there goes that job....unless I missed a major pile of secret money that was left him. So with tat in mind, it also makes more sense that he'd establish his own separate crimefighter identity from Batman, even though he's clearly the successor.

 

[TheFuture]

I thought it was very well done. Other than Blake knowing

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Wayne was Batman all along (seriously, how?),

he was a well-written, rounded character with an interesting arc, and I LOVED

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the reveal of his real name and his entry into the batcave.

Great stuff.

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Within the context of the entire film, perhaps Blake is a specific nod to Tim Drake. Didn't Drake deduce that Bruce was Batman in the comics too?