Age of Ultron Josh Brolin Is Thanos, The Mad Titan

[Dr. Thanos]

I'm still standing by the Scepter not being an infinity stone

It isn't. It was just a Tesseract-powered conduit for Loki's own sorcery. Selvig explicitly says as much ("The Tesseract can't protect against itself...")

Plus, does anybody really think Thanos would give an Infinity Gem to Loki? Not a chance.

 

[Mjölnir]

It isn't. It was just a Tesseract-powered conduit for Loki's own sorcery. Selvig explicitly says as much ("The Tesseract can't protect against itself...")

Plus, does anybody really think Thanos would give an Infinity Gem to Loki? Not a chance.

The scepter can't realistically be powered by the Tesseract since Loki uses it before he gets a hold of the cube. The way he's given the scepter also gives the impression that it's already working. Of course it could theoretically have been powered when they remotely accessed the Tesseract as a portal, but it seems a bit convoluted for something that's never explained. The scepter might just be an artifact that was in Thanos' possession. He probably has quite a few powerful items.

 

[Dr. Thanos]

The scepter can't realistically be powered by the Tesseract since Loki uses it before he gets a hold of the cube. The way he's given the scepter also gives the impression that it's already working. Of course it could theoretically have been powered when they remotely accessed the Tesseract as a portal, but it seems a bit convoluted for something that's never explained. The scepter might just be an artifact that was in Thanos' possession. He probably has quite a few powerful items.

The Tesseract might have just amplified the scepter's existing power, in that case. Either way it's not an Infinity Gem itself.

 

[metaphysician]

Or, maybe a cosmic artifact isn't limited by proximity, anymore than you have to be on the sun to charge a solar powered calculator. After all, Thanos knew how to trigger the Tesseract into opening a gate from across the universe.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I'm still standing by the Scepter not being an infinity stone

It's probably not, but it means Marvel Studios don't have to rely on their Avengers (which Guardians and, reportedly Avengers2 are apparently formed from) formula if it is.

 

[cherokeesam]

Or, maybe a cosmic artifact isn't limited by proximity, anymore than you have to be on the sun to charge a solar powered calculator. After all, Thanos knew how to trigger the Tesseract into opening a gate from across the universe.

Did he? That was never established in The Avengers. Besides, if Thanos could activate the Tesseract from afar, why would he need Loki to go get it for him?

It's far more likely that *Loki* opened the gate from Thanos' throne to Earth, since that's what he does --- "secret passageways" between worlds and all that.

 

[hoy-small-fry]

I think it's far more likely Thanos activated it than Loki, otherwise Loki would be zapping all over the place

 

[metaphysician]

Either way, it means that clearly you can trigger the Tesseract without being able to touch it. It just won't be particularly stable or controlled.

 

[ctsketch]

The scepter can't realistically be powered by the Tesseract since Loki uses it before he gets a hold of the cube. The way he's given the scepter also gives the impression that it's already working. Of course it could theoretically have been powered when they remotely accessed the Tesseract as a portal, but it seems a bit convoluted for something that's never explained. The scepter might just be an artifact that was in Thanos' possession. He probably has quite a few powerful items.

The tesseract is a doorway. Thanos probably knows how to make it project it's energy

 

[ctsketch]

Did he? That was never established in The Avengers. Besides, if Thanos could activate the Tesseract from afar, why would he need Loki to go get it for him?

It's far more likely that *Loki* opened the gate from Thanos' throne to Earth, since that's what he does --- "secret passageways" between worlds and all that.

Loki didn't OPEN a secret passageway...he just knew where they were like in TDW

 

[Guard82]

The scepter might just be an artifact that was in Thanos' possession. He probably has quite a few powerful items.

Yes, I'm sure that's the case. We'll probably see more of his powerful items some time down the road as he goes about collecting the Infinity Stones. The scepter was probably a device Thanos created to channel a small portion of the Tesseract's energy, and Loki was able to use it to channel his own sorcery. Thanos likely has similar items he will use in his quest for the stones.

 

[hoy-small-fry]

I don't think the staff uses the Tesseract... It's on Earth right now and the Tesseract isn't, but it appears to still work

 

[Guard82]

I don't think the staff uses the Tesseract... It's on Earth right now and the Tesseract isn't, but it appears to still work

Maybe the staff doesn't depend upon the Tesseract for its power, but was simply given a small portion of the Tesseract's energy at some point in the past.

 

[cherokeesam]

Maybe the staff doesn't depend upon the Tesseract for its power, but was simply given a small portion of the Tesseract's energy at some point in the past.

That's possible; there's also the possibility that HYDRA has machinery that duplicates the power of the Tesseract, to an extent. Keep in mind that Zola harnessed its energy completely on his own, and probably discovered more of its inner workings than any other person on Earth.

 

[ctsketch]

Zola deserves much more credit...he has shaped the MCU more than anyone

 

[cherokeesam]

Zola deserves much more credit...he has shaped the MCU more than anyone

Yeah, I don't think even Feige or the writers know exactly how brilliant they made Zola turn out to be. I'm sure the writers might have just been using him as a plot device rather than deliberately trying to turn him into a supervillain mastermind, but if you seriously sit down and consider all the things he's actually done in the MCU, he makes the Starks look like high school dropouts.

 

[Supernova]

I personally didnt like Zola being this huge mastermind. He was Red Skull's henchman and came off like an assitant. Not to mention his laughable morning cartoon explanation how he uploaded his conseus into the computer in the 40's and 50's.

 

[BatsDC]

He won't be a big prescence moving forward anyway

 

[hoy-small-fry]

I dunno about that, it kinda felt like Winter Soldier was setting him up to be a returning villain next time around

 

[cherokeesam]

I dunno about that, it kinda felt like Winter Soldier was setting him up to be a returning villain next time around

As a "ghost in the machine," an AI loose in cyberspace, the bombing of the mainframe would have done nothing to "kill" that AI. So there's a 99.99% chance that Zola AI still exists out in the internet; it's just a question of whether or not the Russos or anybody else wants to bring him back.

 

[The Endless]

The thing is... is Zola technically an AI? He's a human consciousness stored in those data banks. Like he said "you are standing in the center of my brain"

I do think there is a chance some of him escaped onto that usb stick Widow had though.

 

[Steyin]

After rewatching TWS and that end credit scene, the way Baron delivers that line with the camera focus on the staff....I'm actually leaning to it housing the mind gem more. Never believed it before, but all of a sudden that line and visual just clicked and screamed something's up. I don't know, just a gut reaction after not seeing it since it first came out.

 

[jaqua99]

So, are we forgetting that Thanos may have been confirmed for AoU?

Think about it. Brolin knows one more appearance for sure, but the other two, he isn't sure about...he said. The one he is most sure of, well wouldn't it be the next movie he does? As they don't really cast and give info that far into the future?

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Josh...Thanos-Avengers-2-Guardians-Galaxy-43244.html

The Wrap now reports that Brolin also will play Thanons in Joss Whedon's sequel The Avengers: Age of Ultron. The source adds that Thanos "will have a more prominent role" in the Avengers film. Busy day for Josh Brolin's people.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Skull and Zola used the cube to power the entire Hydra arsenal.

 

[fixxxer]

So, are we forgetting that Thanos may have been confirmed for AoU?

Think about it. Brolin knows one more appearance for sure, but the other two, he isn't sure about...he said. The one he is most sure of, well wouldn't it be the next movie he does? As they don't really cast and give info that far into the future?

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Josh...Thanos-Avengers-2-Guardians-Galaxy-43244.html

You're working off of old information. That has since been debunked. I think The Wrap might have confused an Avengers sequel to mean Age Of Ultron, rather than the Avengers sequel after A:AOU.