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Wel, that's kinda my point.Three months apart is hardly head to head.
There's plenty of summer months for TA2 and JLA to coexist.
Wel, that's kinda my point.Three months apart is hardly head to head.
Yup.
People don't seem to get how the Justice League dynamic works when they get together. There's very little in the leaguer's solo stories that cannot be introduced in the JLA film as needed. Yes, Avengers did it another way, but where was the benefit, other than that people knew Iron Man and Thor existed and there were some simple connections between films? It's not like The Avengers was heavily tied to the solo films of the characters, or that there was much in the way of character development in the movie. The insistence that somehow it's "cheating" to make a few solo hero films and then a JLA movie is getting annoying. There are many ways to make a DC filmverse happen.
The JUSTICE LEAGUE characters, who have pretty simple powers and backgrounds at their outset, will interact with each other...much the same as they did in THE AVENGERS. Well, hopefully better, and with more depth.
And making solo films first, builds the hype for the event/team movie.
Avengers would have made nowhere near the same amount of revenue if it had not been preceded by 5 solo films and this would be the same for a JL movie.
I disagree - a JL movie would guarantee a bunch of money with or without solo movies. At this point, why take the gamble, and spend a **** load of money on solo movies when all they want to do is a JL movie? Those solo movies, I'll bet, wouldn't get much in the box office. Don't try to tell me that if a JL movie came out, it wouldn't do extremely well in the box office. If it has Batman and Superman, people would be ALL OVER that **** - fanboy or not, solo build up or not.
So does building the hype for the event/team movie.
You know what built hype for THE AVENGERS?
Hype...for THE AVENGERS.
That’s because the average person, while they know what Captain America and The Hulk are, they didn't, prior to the solo films know much of anything about Iron Man, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Nick Fury and arguably, Thor.
You cannot say the same about Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, The Flash and Aquaman prior to the Justice League movie. They are cultural icons.
They have to retcon. There's no way Bruce is returning to the cowl after TDKR. Having Blake-Batman in the JL is more counterproductive than rebooting Bats.And even if they do have to recast Bats it seems dumb to retcon Nolan's Bat-history. They are some of the most accomplished/revered cbms to date. For DC to not want them to be part of a DC cinematic universe timeline would be insane.
Wonder Woman?
The Flash or Aquaman were.
As for GL same thing...
I promise you that if you were to walk up to any average joe on the street, they would know who Wonder Woman, The Flash, Aquaman, and Green Lantern are.Gimme a break.
Batman and Superman are cultural icons yes.
Wonder Woman? Perhaps in the 1970's when the live action show was airing. But kids of today, non comic readers, I'm not so sure and I'd be surprised if any of em knew who The Flash or Aquaman were. As for GL same thing before the film came out- non comic readers (lets say the youth demographic- teens to 25) had probably never heard of him. We're not talking Spidey and the Hulk here. Flash, WW etc might be giants in comics, but there has not been anything significant in other media that has kept them in the public consciousness outside of comics.
I promise you that if you were to walk up to any average joe on the street, they would know who Wonder Woman, The Flash, Aquaman, and Green Lantern are.
Hell, I just asked my girlfriend (one of the most comic-book-illiterate people on the face of the earth) to name members of the Justice League off the top of her head, and the only one she missed was Aquaman (who she claims she would have remembered if she had more time to think).
Her exact order:
Superman
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern
The Flash
Batman
They have to retcon. There's no way Bruce is returning to the cowl after TDKR. Having Blake-Batman in the JL is more counterproductive than rebooting Bats.
Avengers doesnt have the A-List characters that Justice League already have.
JLA doesnt need anything to gain interest. No handful of solo movies, all they need is that Man of Steel movie to tell the world "Superman is back and this aint ur daddys version". To be honest, even if they didnt have this it's friggin Superman and Batman! Cultural icons! More than anything Marvel can put together.
Your joking right?
JL has Superman and Batman and bunch of characters no one outside of comics knows of, 'cept for maybe WW. Whereas The Avengers have The Incredible Hulk (world famous cultural icon) The Super Soldier, Shell Head and the god of Thunder all world famous with movie audiences thanks to their solo films.
Iron Man is as well known with movie audiences now as either Supes or Bats, plus you got the Hulk in Avengers. And what about if a certain webslinger shows up in A2? You can forget your 'more than anything Marvel can put together' boasting then.![]()
Batman and Superman are covered. The GA is familiar with Green Lantern; his origin can be referenced through dialogue. The Flash's origin isn't particularly complicated, so his can be referenced through dialogue as well. That's four characters you don't have to worry about.
You can use Batman to get the explanations out the way. He's bound to have information on his future teammates.