The Dark Knight Liev Schreiber In The Omen 666

[metr0man]

Liev Schreiber is mediocre in every way.

He's the new Billy Zane. An across-the-board mediocre actor in everything he's been in, who is only wanted by fanboys because one cartoon/comic depiction (out of hundreds) drew him in a similar fashion.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

I never saw a Kevin Spacey movie I liked until I saw Glengarry Glenn Ross

ohh good call i forgot about that one, another stellar mark on his resume'

American Beatuy is fantastic, watch that one....oooo and Usual Suspects, excellent

and to retart, if you haven't seen a spacey movie you like, what Schreiber movies do you like, because they are all subpar compared to most spacey stuff, honestly i think Scream is his best movie because of the hilariously complete satirical look at horror movies it does, i think it is a better scary movie then scary movie itself

 

[Ronny Shade]

I liked Scream 1 and 2, Phantoms, Manchurian Candidate and Sum of All Fears. Those are the only movies I've seen him in and I liked them all.

 

[Silver Souper]

Well tonight i went to see The Omen with my friend Jarod and i was really excited. Let me just say off topic (the movie was fantatic). Anyway, i know that Liev Schreiber is a running canidate has Harvey Dent and tonight i was a true believer that he would make the perfect Harvey. There were many scenes in the movie were he was sporting the nice tuxedo's and there were focuses on his face and upper body and all i can think about was the burn acid scars. I was looking at his face and just picturing him with the scars and before i knew it i imagined i was watching Batman 2 or something. Anyway, has anyone seen The Omen on here and had a similar expiriance?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand welcome a WB plant to the hype!

 

["V"]

I've said it for a while now, Joaquin Phoenix for Dent. He looks far more like Sale's rendition than Schreiber and will be able to hold his own against Oldman and Bale.

 

[Steelsheen]

your comparing Liev Schreiber to Kevin Spacey?????????????????

what the hell, do you have any common sense, let me go down the check list for a second and see if any of Schreibers roles even come close to comparing with Spaceys

Seven vs Manchurian
American Beatuy vs. the Hurricane
L.A. Confidential vs Scream 2
Beyond the Sea vs. The Omen
The Usual Suspects vs. Phantoms
the life of david gale vs. oh wait schreiber has only been in like 6 crappy movies

apparently casting directors and filmmakers don't agree with you

and neither do people who make desicions as to who wins best actor, because Spacey has two, and Schreiber has 0

Schreiber may be an alright two face, i am against the casting desicion(see my last post) but he could end up being alright, i can handle that

what i cannot handle is people who do not know the difference between movies like American Beatuy and The Manchuriane Candidate, and the respective roles the actors play, and how well they play them, Lestur Burhman is one of the greatest characters in film history, and who ever the guy schriber plays on Manch, is ok, and that is widely considered his best role

he could be okay as two-face, but to compare him on any leval with one of the top 3 actors out there (alongside, Depp, and Morgan Freemen) is a completley obsered statement

before The Usual Suspects rocketed Spacey into mainstream consciousness he had supporting roles in films of varying success. who from "The Rocket Gibraltar" and "Working Girls" do you remember with ease without looking at IMDB? not Spacey huh? but he was there. ever heard of "The Ref"? good film, great cast, but hardly anyone remembers it. that was the first film i remember where he was one of the lead (although Dennis Leary headlined it). my point is that you cant suffocate talent in mediocre films/ roles. what Spacey is reaping now (the awards, the plum roles) is result from years and years of hard work on stage and supporting roles in films.

having said that, what makes you think that Schreiber is just some guy who looked like a comic book character and nothing more? other than Manchurian Candidate, you dont have on your list the other work where Schreiber showed his acting chops: RKO 281 (the Battle over Citizen Kane), Hitler: The Rise of Evil, even smaller roles like Sphere, The Sum of All Fears, The Sunshine Boys, Kate and Leopold.... if you've never seen the Citizen Kane flick or Hitler movie then i strongly suggest that you do. Schreiber is at the stage where Spacey was 20 years ago-- did some good roles, most are largely forgotten. but if your'e really paying attention on movies where Schreiber shines, you know this is a man that has talent, that deserves to have a Usual Suspects type of break. he certainly is on the right track-- he's already done writting and directing a film at his age (Everything is Illuminated). Spacey only got around to that a couple of years ago (albeit he admited it took decades to get it onscreen, and only through his fame)

you're putting too much value on the hollywood awards system. just how many actors have won the golden trophy but doesnt deserve it? how many more actors deserves it but hasnt even gotten a nomination?

oh and i may not be a casting director, but i was against Jenniffer Garner being cast as Elektra and Jessica Alba as Sue Richards (renamed Sue Storm sheesh ). dont even get me started with Clooney as Batman or Halley Berry as Catwoman. i have nothing against them other than they just dont fit the role. but they were cast and the rest is history.

 

[Ronny Shade]

Um....renamed? Sue Storm? you must have a bad connection. Her name was always Sue Storm.

Other than that, great post

 

[Steelsheen]

i always remembered her as Sue Richards dude she was Reed Richards' wife first and Johnny's sister second (to me anyway )

 

[DV8]

this thread is pointless, cuz we need to be focusing on building up Keifer Sutherland's name to attach to this role

 

[TheBat812]

I think he has untapped potential. He's never had a role that really pushed him. The role of Harvey would.

 

[DV8]

^Keifer? . . . hells yeah

 

[L0ngsh0t]

before The Usual Suspects rocketed Spacey into mainstream consciousness he had supporting roles in films of varying success. who from "The Rocket Gibraltar" and "Working Girls" do you remember with ease without looking at IMDB? not Spacey huh? but he was there. ever heard of "The Ref"? good film, great cast, but hardly anyone remembers it. that was the first film i remember where he was one of the lead (although Dennis Leary headlined it). my point is that you cant suffocate talent in mediocre films/ roles. what Spacey is reaping now (the awards, the plum roles) is result from years and years of hard work on stage and supporting roles in films.

having said that, what makes you think that Schreiber is just some guy who looked like a comic book character and nothing more? other than Manchurian Candidate, you dont have on your list the other work where Schreiber showed his acting chops: RKO 281 (the Battle over Citizen Kane), Hitler: The Rise of Evil, even smaller roles like Sphere, The Sum of All Fears, The Sunshine Boys, Kate and Leopold.... if you've never seen the Citizen Kane flick or Hitler movie then i strongly suggest that you do. Schreiber is at the stage where Spacey was 20 years ago-- did some good roles, most are largely forgotten. but if your'e really paying attention on movies where Schreiber shines, you know this is a man that has talent, that deserves to have a Usual Suspects type of break. he certainly is on the right track-- he's already done writting and directing a film at his age (Everything is Illuminated). Spacey only got around to that a couple of years ago (albeit he admited it took decades to get it onscreen, and only through his fame)

you're putting too much value on the hollywood awards system. just how many actors have won the golden trophy but doesnt deserve it? how many more actors deserves it but hasnt even gotten a nomination?

oh and i may not be a casting director, but i was against Jenniffer Garner being cast as Elektra and Jessica Alba as Sue Richards (renamed Sue Storm sheesh ). dont even get me started with Clooney as Batman or Halley Berry as Catwoman. i have nothing against them other than they just dont fit the role. but they were cast and the rest is history.

i agree with you on the other roles you do not like in Comic book movies

i thought Manch was supposed to be Schrieber's big break, i've seen sum of all fears, not impressive, haven't seen the tv flicks your talking about cause the only tv shows i watch i buy on dvd

here's my thing though, good actors make their own breaks, and spacey did that, and schrieber has seemingly been handed these roles on a silver platter to grab by the balls, and he still remains very B-listed

i maybe am putting a tone of value on the awards system, but i will take that wager any day of the week, i will take the best actor winners every year and you can have the none best actor winners and i garuntee i win more then not(in the case of if they deserve it) the only one i don't like in the past couple years has been russell crowe for the gladiator(but he did deserve beautifull mind)

you are wrong on one thing else is that Spacey was in Glengary glen ross before Usual Suspects, albeit Suspects launched him into fame, Glengary is still a far better movie, and spacey does a far better job in that, then any of schreibers works to date(i have not seen the tv stuff you had mentioned, he might be good at that, in saying that, it is still a made for tv movie)

in all the films i have seen Liev in he has been one of the dryest actors out there, and does a very good bill pulmen imperssonation (oh wait that is how he acts) i'm not saying he is going to suck at two face, i just think there are tones and tones of better more qualified actors, who deserve the break that you have mentioned more then Schreiber

 

[L0ngsh0t]

I liked Scream 1 and 2, Phantoms, Manchurian Candidate and Sum of All Fears. Those are the only movies I've seen him in and I liked them all.

awesome you officially have the best taste in movies on the planet


(said with the most extreme sarcasim possible)

did you also like bad boys 2, and big mommas house, and pay check? other movies of the same ilk

i think batman and robin is a better movie then Phantoms

 

[Asr]

Phoenix For Dent!!!

 

[7alex]

Liev is great and i believe the Omen was a great movie and it was far better than any recent horror films. Liev has all the qualities as far as playing Dent not only that but he sure would look like him alot. Look at Tommy Lee Jones, he made two-face look like a complete jokster, and totally ruined him has he was in the cartoons and comics. Two-Face wasn't a jokster and i think Liev would make him a serious villan and thats why he is my pick. It's hard to explain but he would not dissapoint, i can almost promise this.

 

[Nightwing1977]

I still want to see if Liev has what it take to play Dent. I'll wait & see if he make it before I start thinking he's wrong for the part. I trust Nolan will helm it well if he does cast Liev.

 

[Jack Napier]

First off, The Omen remake was crap. The problem with making a remake to Donner's movie is that people know it so well, that if you remake it, all the audience does is sit there and anticipate what they've already seen. "Cue the hanging nanny, cue Mrs. Baylock, the decapitation, the rotweillers..." It was boring more than anything else.

Liev Schreiber is a good actor. Evaluating the movies he's been in does nothing to prove a point. That's like saying Michael Caine shouldn't be hired for Batman Begins because he was in Jaws 4 or Shiner. Jamie Foxx made a lot of crap before showing some promise in Any Given Sunday, and then he went back to making crap, and now look at him.

Schreiber did The Omen for the money, plain and simple. Any actor that takes the role of Harvey Dent will be psyched to have the opportunity to do it, and will do well.

 

[Brian2887]

First off, The Omen remake was crap. The problem with making a remake to Donner's movie is that people know it so well, that if you remake it, all the audience does is sit there and anticipate what they've already seen. "Cue the hanging nanny, cue Mrs. Baylock, the decapitation, the rotweillers..." It was boring more than anything else.

Liev Schreiber is a good actor. Evaluating the movies he's been in does nothing to prove a point. That's like saying Michael Caine shouldn't be hired for Batman Begins because he was in Jaws 4 or Shiner. Jamie Foxx made a lot of crap before showing some promise in Any Given Sunday, and then he went back to making crap, and now look at him.

Schreiber did The Omen for the money, plain and simple. Any actor that takes the role of Harvey Dent will be psyched to have the opportunity to do it, and will do well.

Acting in a bad movie is different from being a bad actor in bland movies. Is Paul Walker just waiting for his big break? Liev has not only acted in a list of terrible films, he hasn't been impressive in any of them.

 

[7alex]

I think he was impressive for what he was given in the Omen script.

 

[elorenishii386]

Just when I get on the damn Schreiber bandwagon, everybody wants off

I don't know what the hell is going on here. yes the omen is crap...i don't need to go to see it in theatre's to know that.

Schreiber is still my #1 choice for Dent...no matter how he did in that Omen Movie...It looked like a bad movie even from the trailer. I mean come on...why remake a classic?

From what I've seen from other movies like the Manchurian Candidate, I think he can play Harvey Dent. He is a good actor. I really do think so.

 

[Brian2887]

I don't know what the hell is going on here. yes the omen is crap...i don't need to go to see it in theatre's to know that.

Schreiber is still my #1 choice for Dent...no matter how he did in that Omen Movie...It looked like a bad movie even from the trailer. I mean come on...why remake a classic?

From what I've seen from other movies like the Manchurian Candidate, I think he can play Harvey Dent. He is a good actor. I really do think so.

I think what's happening is that The Omen is the first time a lot of people here have seen Schreiber act, and he was disappointing. Most of his supporters were judging solely on his resemblance to Sale's Dent, and ignoring the fact that they had never seen the guy act. And, from what I hear, he isn't exactly great in The Omen.

It's true, Schreiber has turned in a few ok performances throughout his career, but nothing that his supporters have seen. And even in those, I don't think he's ever proven he can come close to making a good Two-Face.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

I think what's happening is that The Omen is the first time a lot of people here have seen Schreiber act, and he was disappointing. Most of his supporters were judging solely on his resemblance to Sale's Dent, and ignoring the fact that they had never seen the guy act. And, from what I hear, he isn't exactly great in The Omen.

It's true, Schreiber has turned in a few ok performances throughout his career, but nothing that his supporters have seen. And even in those, I don't think he's ever proven he can come close to making a good Two-Face.

i completley agree with most of what you are saying, Schreiber is merely okay, nothing special, and by no means worthy of such a weighty role

 

[Ronny Shade]

did you also like bad boys 2, and big mommas house, and pay check? other movies of the same ilk

Yes, no, yes.


Now stop.

 

[cerealkiller182]

I thought he was terrible in the Omen but I still want him for Dent. I had a similar situation in The Manchurian Canidate where I envisioned Two-Face. Plus he was good in Sum of all Fears and the Sphere and the limited scenes he had in the Scream movies.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

Yes, no, yes.


Now stop.

awesome, lol....****ing awesome

Paycheck? Bad Boys 2? com'on, and you think you know acting and quality movies?

people these are the merchents who are going to ruin this next series of batman movies if they get there way, they watch the money flicks and think they know more about movies...of course Liev Schrieber is going to look like a fantastic actor when the 4 stars of the two movies you just said you liked where, Ben Affleck, Martian Lawrence, Will Smith, and Aaron Eckhart (Eckharts okay but is dreadful in paycheck)

2 of those actors are worldly considered in the 5 worst popular actors on the planet in Affleck and Lawrence

you can like your car/explosion/sexy girl movies but just don't use those perverted money making styles with the quality filmmaking of BB into BB2