The Dark Knight Rises Life after Nolan: What comes next...

[El Payaso]

Luckily, Snyder will bring more than style alone.

That sounds like it'd be reeeeeeal lucky.

 

[ALP]

That sounds like it'd be reeeeeeal lucky.

No, just Zack Snyder's pure brilliant filmmaker genius

Oh btw, Bill Nye would be a boss Alfred. And Ernie Hudson MUST be the next Lucius.

 

[HighFivingMF]

No, just Zack Snyder's pure brilliant filmmaker genius

Except 300.

 

[El Payaso]

Except 300.

And hadn't "Watchmen" been such a good comic book...

 

[conan69]

I wouldnt mind seeing Peter Greengrass taking a shot and with his style, it could fit pretty well into "Nolans universe".

He just needs to lay off the shakycam.

 

[JAK®]

And hadn't "Watchmen" been such a good comic book...

Some of the best parts of the movie had nothing to do with the comic book.

 

[JAK®]

I wouldnt mind seeing Peter Greengrass taking a shot and with his style, it could fit pretty well into "Nolans universe".

He just needs to lay off the shakycam.

Nolans universe should end with Nolan.

 

[ALP]

Except 300.

And hadn't "Watchmen" been such a good comic book...

haters gone hate

 

[HighFivingMF]

haters gone hate

Lovers gonna love.

 

[Hurm...]

I would want to see Bryan Cranston (Breaking Bad) as Jim Gordon

 

[ALP]

I would want to see Bryan Cranston (Breaking Bad) as Jim Gordon

Brilliant

 

[The Englishman]

A few personal casting choices.



Elias Koteas, as Commissioner Gordon.

Is this Casey Jones????

 

[HighFivingMF]

Is this Casey Jones????

Yes, sir. He was also Laedis, the guy with the stitched-up face in Shutter Island. And the clock maker in Benjamin Button.

 

[Travesty]

Yes, sir. He was also Laedis, the guy with the stitched-up face in Shutter Island. And the clock maker in Benjamin Button.

He's been in a ton of stuff, but everytime I see him, I can't help but think 'Casey Jones'.t:

 

[Bat-Mite]

Snyder deserves respect. He put a glowing blue tallywhacker on the big screen.

 

[ModestMr.Green]

And paid homage to Bat nipples.

 

[Brother Jack]

Some of the best parts of the movie had nothing to do with the comic book.

And yet, none of it was nearly at the level of the comic.

 

[JAK®]

And yet, none of it was nearly at the level of the comic.

The film suffered because it tried to adapt the comic panel for panel, and comic narrative isn't the same as film narrative. I will admit this. And as such it wasn't as good as the comic because it was just a copy of the comic. But the film was still very well done, the performances were great and of course the visuals were top notch.

Zack Snyder will deliver a great Superman movie.

 

[El Payaso]

The film suffered because it tried to adapt the comic panel for panel, and comic narrative isn't the same as film narrative. I will admit this. And as such it wasn't as good as the comic because it was just a copy of the comic.

Exactly. Snyder's acclaimed "faithfulness" is not much more than copying panel after panel with little variations here and there. Which is not only easy but, as you say, insufficient.

And it's not like "the film tried to," it was Snyder.

But the film was still very well done,

You just said it wasn't very well done since it ahd its share of problems.

the performances were great and of course the visuals were top notch.

Performances were okay and visuals is the only aspect Snyder can warrantee. I've said myself.

Zack Snyder will deliver a great Superman movie.

After what I've seen and you've said, I doubt it.

My biggest fear is that he's going to deliver an okay Superman movie with cool-looking action.

 

[JAK®]

Exactly. Snyder's acclaimed "faithfulness" is not much more than copying panel after panel with little variations here and there. Which is not only easy but, as you say, insufficient.

Easy? The work necessary to make things look the same and filling in the gaps between panels doesn't seem easy. It's not like he just pointed the camera at the book and called it a day.

You just said it wasn't very well done since it ahd its share of problems.

Having a few problems makes a film badly done?

Performances were okay and visuals is the only aspect Snyder can warrantee. I've said myself.

Performances were GREAT and the visuals are one of Snyder's strongest points. I said so myself.

After what I've seen and you've said, I doubt it.

My biggest fear is that he's going to deliver an okay Superman movie with cool-looking action.

Your fear is unwarranted.

 

[ALP]

Snyder deserves respect. He put a glowing blue tallywhacker on the big screen.

Jon had a big blue jon

And yet, none of it was nearly at the level of the comic.

I thought Snyder's film was just as good in most respects. It is my favorite superhero film ever and I feel it only gets better with each viewing.

Exactly. Snyder's acclaimed "faithfulness" is not much more than copying panel after panel with little variations here and there. Which is not only easy but, as you say, insufficient.

What about what comes between the panels? There were also a few changes here and there, a lot of cinematography work from what wasn't borrowed from the panels, Snyder added an amazing soundtrack, and edited the film extremely well. A mediocre or bad director could have completely hacked up the story in the editing room, made it 2 hours, and ripped away most of the plot. Snyder understood the plot and kept what was necessary and changed what he felt needed altering such as the squid. In Snyder's cinematic rendition he thought it would make more sense for Doc Manhattan to be blamed for the chaos.

It was beautiful masterful filmmaking.

And Snyder is cool and hip and makes awesome movies. I have no doubt he will make Superman the coolest superhero movie ever!t:

 

[Doc Samson]

Nolans universe should end with Nolan.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

Life after Nolan: What comes next....

ManBat, Clayface, Scarface&The Ventriloquist, Mr.Freeze, etc...

 

[ALP]

I'm a big fan of Man-Bat but I think a character like that works best in a particular kind of world. Not one that is just open to fantasy ideas but one that is full out fantasy and gothic. I could have seen Man-Bat working perfectly in Burton's second Gotham.

Scarface and Wesker I think would be good villains for a Nolan-esque world. The duality and psychological aspect would be right up Nolan's alley.

 

[JBElliott]

After this round of Batman on film, I'd like to see a Batman television series.

Batman would be better in a prime-time TV series. We could see more character development, more growth, more complex plots (with fewer holes) and so on in a television show than we could ever see in a movie.

If a season is 20 episodes, that's 20 hours of screen time per year compared to two hours of screen time every two or three years. There's no comparison.

"Year One" could be spread out over half a season or so to show why Wayne has to become Batman in Gotham City rather than a cop of FBI agent. We could see why Gordon comes to trust and depend on Batman. Both of those things really got the short end of things in "Batman Begins" partially because of the time constraints of a movie. Television affords so much more time than movies and that's why a Batman series would be so much better than movies. Source.

And . . .

A Batman series would be perfect. Start with "Year One" and go from there. Maybe "The Man who Laughs" also. I'd wait until the end of the first season to introduce the Joker though. Take the last scene from "Year One" with Gordon mentioning the Joker as the "end of the season cliff hanger."

The do stories from"Night Cries," "Batman and the Monster Men," "Batman and the Mad Monk," "Long Halloween" and "Dark Victory" with heavy borrowing from "Gotham Central" for characters and stories from the point of view of "regular" people.

A well done series where we get to see the characters evolve over a whole season would be great, better than the movies. We'd really get to see why Wayne has to be Batman and not just a cop or something. We'd really get to see why Gordon trusts a masked vigilante more than the GPD. We'd see how Wayne learns to become the greatest crimefighter the world has ever known. We'd get to see Harvey Dent turn into Two-Face and feel the pain of that transition after seasons of seeing him as a good guy and a close allie of Batman and Gordon. As good as the movies are, the can't match what a television show could do because a television show has a lot more time to show things that have to be implied in movies.

There could still be movies too. For instance the Ra's Al Guhl stories would make great summer block buster movies that could be set in the same continuity, but not be completely necessary to enjoy the show. Source.