Light Tubes Is Not A Wrestling Thread! - - - Part 57

[LOBO3315a]

What if WWE teamed up AJ with Zack Ryder and they faced Eve and Daniel Bryan?

I would support this!!!

 

[TX85]

A few days ago some of us were talking about WWE vs TNA cross-over dream matches But now I'm curious on who you'd want to jump-ship IF some decided to!?For me personally I'd like..

WWE to TNA:
Christian
Mysterio
Beth
Natayla
Evan Bourne


TNA to WWE:
AJ Styles
Samoa Joe
Christopher Daniels
Bobby Rhoode
James Storm
Velvet Sky

 

[The Sage]

This past week on part 2 of Chair Shot Reality, WZ columnist Mark Madden revealed that former WWE and ECW personality Paul Heyman has been helping Brock Lesnar with his WWE promos.

Heyman also helped Lesnar on the mic when he was working for UFC, and of course during his initial run in WWE. As previously reported, Heyman has not been rehired by WWE, and based on recent reports, the company has no current plans to bring him in.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/253491-exclusive-whos-been-helping-brock-lesnar-with-wwe-promos

 

[Kaleb]

I doubt Heyman would want to come back.

 

[venom892]

Na Heyman has the hustle and he's doing fine.He's just helping Brock because Heyman is one of the few people Lesnar trusts.

 

[NDX]

Why isn't that sick running lariat not Ryback's finisher?

 

[Dr. Evil]

I like Ryback. I just hope he's clean.

Oh and did the UFC copy the WWE? Or was it the other way around? I say this because I am watching UFC 145 right now and they show the twitter handles of the fighters as they come out, like the WWE shows the twitter handles of the superstars when they come out.

 

[brainchild81]

I watched Impact for the first time in months. Didn't catch the beginning. I didn't see either Bischoff on the show. Are they gone or @least not gonna be on TV for a while? I'd really like to be able to watch TNA on a regular basis again.

 

[Assassin]

Sweet, I have a channel called Universal HD and they replay Smackdown! at 1 AM!

You learn something new every day.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Nope. Gonna watch Final Resolution from last year. That has the Iron Man match between Roode and AJ I think. And Angle vs Storm.

The Iron Man match is a good one, there was also a match with Hardy on Impact that was decent and his recent match with storm.

As much as I didn't like that they had Storm win at Lockdown, if TNA's drags it out to BFG and has Storm go over getting his big win, I'm all for it. The way thursday's promo set it up, they can make the program work out really well. This is actually the closest thing to an old-school, long-term wrestling program that I can remember.

From what I've read part of the reason for storm not winning is that he has a few nagging injuries, that combined with Roode having so much heat has lead to them drawing out the storyline further, plus the finish and Storm's promo meant he didn't lose any momentum.

That pretty much sums it up. Hogans whole WCW run was manipulation after manipulation. When he jobbed to Bily Kidman he did it for a guy he knew was never going to get over as opposed to someone like Bret Hart or Benoit or Jericho.

DDP just said the other day how that match with Savage basically made him a top star.

Exactly, you look at Hogan's politicking with sting vs Savage helping DDP and it just sums up the different way both men did business across their careers.

Savage never should have joined the NWO IMO. At least not the black and white. I've always felt him subjecting his will to a leader like Hogan was pretty out of character. He never seemed like the type to follow anybody. He and Hogan had their power struggle later but Savage should have been a tweener or independent entity in WCW.

I think the initial storyline reason for Savage joining the NWO was that Bischoff had him blackballed and it was the only way he could get back into WCW, but that was soon dropped. Savage as a loner fighting for WCW made so much more sense, but Hogan did what he always did to Savage, kept him close to keep himself on top.

NWO should of been Hogan, Hall, Nash, Pac, Steiner and Giant. Team WCW should of been Savage, DDP, Flair, Sting, Goldberg and Luger. NWO had too many members and I agree Savage should of never joined them.

And the Wolfpac vs. Hollywood storyline made even more no sense cause it was a civil war between the NWO and WCW just forgot all about the war they had with the NWO altogether and moved on to other stuff. Don't even know what the Wolfpac motives was? To eliminate NWO Hollywood and takeover wCw for themselves? Or just eliminate NWO Hollywood?

The NWO also had way too many jobbers in it as it grew, it started out as a supposed elite faction but then ended up with guys like IRS, Virgil and Ed Leslie in it.

The Wolfpac was WCW's creative simply giving in to the fact the NWO was over despite being the heels and spinning off a cooler Hoganless version to try and emulate DX.

Why isn't that sick running lariat not Ryback's finisher?

I've been wondering this as well, it's pointless him doing that modified fall-away slam after he's decapitated the guy.

I watched Impact for the first time in months. Didn't catch the beginning. I didn't see either Bischoff on the show. Are they gone or @least not gonna be on TV for a while? I'd really like to be able to watch TNA on a regular basis again.

Eric is gone but his kid is still there.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

Sweet, I have a channel called Universal HD and they replay Smackdown! at 1 AM!

You learn something new every day.

I found this out today too.

They've been playing Raw and Smackdown back-to-back since 6 o'clock (central time)

 

[Assassin]

cool, I DVR Raw but i don't care about Smackdown, so if they do this every week i'll actually watch it. I'll be home a lot now with my fracture in my foot so I have nothing better to do.

 

[NDX]

Partake in the glory that is Daniel Bryan and his promos of YES! YES! YES!

Overall, I thought it was a good Smackdown. Bryan's promo, Del Rio/Show, that main event, hell even that tag match with the Usos (who are getting a good reaction lately)/Titus&Young.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I think with Rock vs Brock for the WWE title they are basically sending the wrong message. It's saying the current generation doesn't stack up to the legends.

Edge not being locked in a contract might have to do with travel issues.

I'm glad for Jericho's success outside wrestling. I hope he does come back next year though. Maybe do a retirement match or challenge the streak.

Eh, the idea that the current generation doesn't stack up is already the mindset of the fanbase, whether WWE pushes the new guys or not.

I don't think it's a matter of "sending a message", more along the lines of it is capitalizing on things that the fanbase would actually want to see. I've got no beef with Rock v. Brock.

As far as Jericho goes, I'm glad that he's enjoying success outside of WWE, but it is frustrating watching him come back for just a couple months, only to leave and go on tour again for a band that nobody gives a crap about. I want to watch Jericho wrestling, not touring with a rock band.

 

[JabarR]

What would ya'll say if WWE brought back GTV to expose Laryngitis/Mr. Jennifer Hudson's true plans for RAW and SmackDown!?

 

[The Sage]

Partake in the glory that is Daniel Bryan and his promos of YES! YES! YES!

Overall, I thought it was a good Smackdown. Bryan's promo, Del Rio/Show, that main event, hell even that tag match with the Usos (who are getting a good reaction lately)/Titus&Young.

I agree, especially since Smackdown was good this week. I'm sad I neglected it.

Eh, the idea that the current generation doesn't stack up is already the mindset of the fanbase, whether WWE pushes the new guys or not.

I don't think it's a matter of "sending a message", more along the lines of it is capitalizing on things that the fanbase would actually want to see. I've got no beef with Rock v. Brock.

As far as Jericho goes, I'm glad that he's enjoying success outside of WWE, but it is frustrating watching him come back for just a couple months, only to leave and go on tour again for a band that nobody gives a crap about. I want to watch Jericho wrestling, not touring with a rock band.

Oooh, what a coincidence with the bolded statement.

Whether it's in the mind of a lot of the fanbase or not that doesn't mean the company should treat it that way. I'm sure there were plenty of of the fanbase that thought Foley was better than HHH in 2000. Doesn't mean HHH shouldn't have beat him. I'm sure there were plenty of the fanbase that thought Hogan was better than the Rock. Doesn't mean Rock shouldn't have won. And I'm sure there were plenty who thought Brock shouldn't have beaten Rock. Doesn't mean Brock shouldn't have won.

Granted, WWE did this to themselves by not pushing new guys correctly with their nonsensical booking, cutting the legs out of pushes along the way. They need to start making up for it. And Chris Jericho can't be the only veteran taking losses and putting guys over, especially when a win over Rock, HHH, and even Brock would be a bigger deal as they're bigger names.

 

[The Sage]

-Hulk Hogan, the storyline GM of TNA, went on his Twitter to talk about what would improve TNA's product.

A fan asked him about Impact Wrestling going live, and he said it "would solve 75% of the issues," but they need money to do it. He also says he has "been beating that drum for the last 2yrs."

He said: "Getting my head really wrapped around the fan business requests and how to transition Impact Wrestling beyond the Mania, Attitude era, nWo era. Not just grow in a black beard or just switch a title or just verbally say were changing, I'm talking about really changing [the] foundation to put wrestling in a whole new era. I know I came up with the idea, I'm gonna really flush it out before I drop the bomb on you Maniacs."

Credit: Prowrestling.net

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/n...witter-About-How-To-Solve-TNA//s-Problems.htm

 

[The Sage]

I'm posting a lot this morning.

I was reading this comment on a blog. Thought it was interesting and would be worth a look:

There's been lots of talk on the blog recently about how thin the WWE roster is with the exodus of top talent in the past few years.

Occurred to me that the problem isn't so much the high turnover of stars at the top, that's happened before at the end of the Rock n Wrestling, New Generation and Attitude eras.

The issue is more how many of the WWE's headliners of the past 5 years have left without putting over any new stars on the way out.

HBK - Retired by the Undertaker
Flair - Retired by HBK
Batista - Quit following loss to Cena
RVD - Lost to Orton in a Stretcher Match
JBL - Quit after losing to Mysterio
Vince McMahon - Fired by HHH, lost last match to Bret Hart
Jericho - Left 1st time following loss to Cena, left second time following loss to Orton.

In all these guys leaving the WWE the wrestlers who got the rub on the way out were Cena, Orton, Mysterio, HHH, HBK and The Undertaker. All of them multi-time world champs by that point anyway.

On top of that you've got the ones that left due to unforeseen circumstances"

Angle - Left due to Wellness issues (last televised match a no contest against Sabu)
Edge - Retired as Champion defeating Del Rio in last match
Bobby Lashley - Quit while injured to pursue MMA
Umaga - Fired due to Wellness issues

Plus you've got the Benoit and Guerrero tragedies.

Then you've got HHH and Undertaker who are semi-retired. I don't think HHH has put over a new main eventer since Jeff Hardy and honestly cannot remember the last time Undertaker lost to someone who wasn't already a bona fide main eventer.

In fact in all this Jeff Hardy is probably the closest they've come to someone going out on their back, but then I really don't think they planned for him to go out to Punk like he did and it's not like they made anything of it.

Isn't this the root cause of the lack of elevation? Punk, Bryan, Barrett, Rhodes, Sheamus, Ziggler etc are all trying to make each other. Nobody from the previous generation (except maybe Booker?) is giving them a leg up.
What do you think?

I would counter this by saying Jericho's back, and he'll probably go out on his back to someone else on his way out before going on tour again.
Thoughts?

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

AJ is really nothing special not really attractive at all

*runs like all hell was at his feet*

 

[brainchild81]

AJ is really nothing special not really attractive at all

*runs like all hell was at his feet*

She's cute enough. I find her far more attractive than Rosa and I normally love latin chicks.

Was thinking about those stupid Stooges segments on Raw. Reminds me of some of the dumb **** WCW did near the end, like Rick Steiner in the ring arguing w/Chucky. Spend more time promoting young talent than stupid movies.

Cody should attack Kali before every match. Keep his lame ass outta the ring. They should have Cody go over Orton @some point. He's gotten so much better whereas Orton's the same old **** all the time

Eric is gone but his kid is still there.

Shame

 

[Kaleb]

 

[Benstamania]

Punk responding to that stooge wannabe made me lol.

 

[Benstamania]

Oh and I got my shirt from Mania yesterday.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Oooh, what a coincidence with the bolded statement.

Whether it's in the mind of a lot of the fanbase or not that doesn't mean the company should treat it that way. I'm sure there were plenty of of the fanbase that thought Foley was better than HHH in 2000. Doesn't mean HHH shouldn't have beat him. I'm sure there were plenty of the fanbase that thought Hogan was better than the Rock. Doesn't mean Rock shouldn't have won. And I'm sure there were plenty who thought Brock shouldn't have beaten Rock. Doesn't mean Brock shouldn't have won.

Granted, WWE did this to themselves by not pushing new guys correctly with their nonsensical booking, cutting the legs out of pushes along the way. They need to start making up for it. And Chris Jericho can't be the only veteran taking losses and putting guys over, especially when a win over Rock, HHH, and even Brock would be a bigger deal as they're bigger names.

If you're referring to my love of The Rock, and his going off to do movies for 7 years and coming back for a single match, and then leaving to do more movies - I agree. I would much rather see The Rock in the ring than going off to make movies. Just like Jericho, I don't begrudge him for finding success outside of wrestling, but I want to see them wrestling, not doing all these other projects.

As far as the rest of your post, I'm not talking about the "who should have won", I'm talking about both Brock and Rock coming back and main eventing. As I've said time and time again, I'm all about putting on what's entertaining, I don't give a flying fib about "good for business", and Rock v. Brock headlining Wrestlemania would definitely be something to tune in for.

 

[TheOnlyOmega]

I'm posting a lot this morning.

I was reading this comment on a blog. Thought it was interesting and would be worth a look:



I would counter this by saying Jericho's back, and he'll probably go out on his back to someone else on his way out before going on tour again.
Thoughts?

I counter it using the fact that the talent pool in FCW is on par to OVW when they had Lesnar, Batista, Orton, Shelton Benjamin, and Cena running around. Just wait until those guys get called up. I'm not worried about the future of WWE at all, because while some of Triple H's talent acquisitions havent been the best so far (Sin Cara, Kharma), it's obvious the guy has an eye for talent.