BvS Likely Deductions About Who'll Be Cast as the Next Batman

[shauner111]

I personally don't see them going for a Batman in his 40s. All the evidence of the recent trend in superhero movie casting, combined with the recent trend towards de-aging all the heroes in the comics, mixed in with the practical consideration of likely wanting an actor who can play this highly physical role for many years to come, makes me think it's most likely they'll skew young for Batman. I'm expecting someone within the age range of late 20s to mid 30s.

Ill disagree. I don't think WB have a clue on how to handle the solo adventures yet for Batman, and same with Superman with his sequels. They don't even have a clue on how to approach a Green Lantern film, a Flash film (which is why it's on tv) or a Wonder Woman film (which is why theyre apparently considering tv or a Trinity movie to introduce her).

Especially with Bats, it's going to take a while before they figure out what to do with him post-crossover. This is why I believe theyre going for the older actor. It also has to do with following Bale with a veteran name in the business. Also a way for them not to re-do the origin of Dick Grayson's Robin which they may not care about & don't want to have comparisons to Batman Forever, anything Shumacher basically. It's also easier to sign an actor for 2 movies, maybe 3 at the most than some 5-6 film deal.

 

[BH/HHH]

I personally don't see them going for a Batman in his 40s. All the evidence of the recent trend in superhero movie casting, combined with the recent trend towards de-aging all the heroes in the comics, mixed in with the practical consideration of likely wanting an actor who can play this highly physical role for many years to come, makes me think it's most likely they'll skew young for Batman. I'm expecting someone within the age range of late 20s to mid 30s.

Same here

 

[flickchick85]

I don't watch Mad Men, so I've been doing just a little catch up on youtube. Hamm sort of looks the part, but I just feel like he lacks a certain quality. Even though Bruce Wayne is a hero and essentially a good person, there's a terrible something that was born in him the moment he realized his parents were gone forever. I could be wrong, but I just don't see Hamm as being able to convey that ever so subtle hint of darkness that Batman, in my opinion, requires. His voice is also very raspy, and we know Bruce Wayne would never even get close to a ciggy. My thoughts.

LOL, everything you just said pretty much describes Don Draper to a "T." He is hiding his entire real past on Mad Men, and we only get pieces of it each season. His character is literally ALL ABOUT the "subtle hints of darkness," as he's really a very screwed up guy, yet everyone around him thinks he's that guy who's got it all together - the ideal man. At least that's the initial premise, but since we're nearing the end of the show, it's kind of all falling apart now. Anyway, it's really not a show or character that can be grasped in "clips" at all, so I'm not surprised you didn't get any of that watching scenes on YouTube. As for his voice, it's not raspy all the time. Sometimes it's very full and forceful.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

LOL, everything you just said pretty much describes Don Draper to a "T." He is hiding his entire real past on Mad Men, and we only get pieces of it each season. His character is literally ALL ABOUT the "subtle hints of darkness," as he's really a very screwed up guy, yet everyone around him thinks he's that guy who's got it all together - the ideal man. At least that's the initial premise, but since we're nearing the end of the show, it's kind of all falling apart now. Anyway, it's really not a show or character that can be grasped in "clips" at all, so I'm not surprised you didn't get any of that watching scenes on YouTube. As for his voice, it's not raspy all the time. Sometimes it's very full and forceful.

That actually sounds kind of intriguing. Maybe I'll watch a couple of episodes to get a better grasp of what he's capable of.

 

[georgec]

High IQ yes but when he anticipates every single thing it just becomes boring. I guess it's how extreme it is. It annoyed me in the JL cartoons how he just knew everything and he made Superman look an idiot at times.

To me much of the JL and Superman/Batman dynamic plays up Batman's skills and underuses Superman's powers. In a way they have to bring Superman down a notch to keep things interesting.

That said, I hope the new film still focuses on Superman, but I have a feeling WB basically wants MoS2 to be a Batman reboot. Oh well, at least we got one Superman film.

 

[flickchick85]

That actually sounds kind of intriguing. Maybe I'll watch a couple of episodes to get a better grasp of what he's capable of.

I do highly recommend it. It's a brilliant show. I will just say though, it's a very slow starter (I didn't get hooked until the end of Season 1, and I only stuck it through to that point because I had bought the blu-ray on a whim), and it doesn't really delve into Don's demons right away. If you're looking for just one episode to check out with some stellar acting and don't mind being spoiled, there is an episode in Season 4 called "The Suitcase" (episode 4x07) that I recall being quite emotional for Don. Not the most "Batman-y" since it's one of the rare instances where his walls came down and he got genuinely emotional, but it's some great acting nonetheless. And it's been a good while since I've seen it, but I'm pretty sure you get to see several sides of his persona in that episode too. But again, as I'm sure you can imagine since it is in the 4th season, it's very spoiler-y.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

To me much of the JL and Superman/Batman dynamic plays up Batman's skills and underuses Superman's powers. In a way they have to bring Superman down a notch to keep things interesting.

That said, I hope the new film still focuses on Superman, but I have a feeling WB basically wants MoS2 to be a Batman reboot. Oh well, at least we got one Superman film.

They want to be able to have their cake and eat it. They want this film to be a great Superman sequel, an awesome team-up blockbuster, and a Batman reboot -- all at the same time. And they want to compete with and ultimately surpass the MCCU, making plenty of dollars along the way. One could define that as being overly optimistic, naive or just plain greedy. I like to think it's a little of all three.

 

[georgec]

They want to be able to have their cake and eat it. They want this film to be a great Superman sequel, an awesome team-up blockbuster, and a Batman reboot -- all at the same time. And they want to compete with and ultimately surpass the MCCU, making plenty of dollars along the way. One could define that as being overly optimistic, naive or just plain greedy. I like to think it's a little of all three.

I was excited about the news initially, but from a few interviews I got the sense that Snyder is uneasy about fast-tracking Batman's integration into the MoSverse and pushing for JL. This quote:

"It's too early for me to discuss the film. However, regardless of how I feel about Superman, ultimately I have to go along with the direction that Warner Bros. thinks is best".

To go along with other recent posts, I'm also still hoping for a 30ish Batman. Established but not enough to take away the spotlight from Superman. As much as I love Batman I can only imagine that a 40ish Batman will only serve to outshine Superman in critical moments.

I'd like to see a smart, tactical Batman but MoS2 needs to be all about Superman's growth. Ideally Batman would be a supporting role - introduce Bruce who would probably be "working with" Lex and trying to stop him from doing something terrible. Toss in a little Batman, but not too much.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I do highly recommend it. It's a brilliant show. I will just say though, it's a very slow starter (I didn't get hooked until the end of Season 1, and I only stuck it through to that point because I had bought the blu-ray on a whim), and it doesn't really delve into Don's demons right away. If you're looking for just one episode to check out with some stellar acting and don't mind being spoiled, there is an episode in Season 4 called "The Suitcase" (episode 4x07) that I recall being quite emotional for Don. Not the most "Batman-y" since it's one of the rare instances where his walls came down and he got genuinely emotional, but it's some great acting nonetheless. And it's been a good while since I've seen it, but I'm pretty sure you get to see several sides of his persona in that episode too. But again, as I'm sure you can imagine since it is in the 4th season, it's very spoiler-y.

Cool. Yeah, I don't mind being spoiled since I don't really watch the show anyway. I'll check out that episode you mentioned. Thanks.

Now, I want to get you hooked on Person of Interest with Jim Caviezel. Between POI and Elementary (a show centered on a protagonist -- Sherlock Holmes in modern form -- with unparalleled detective skills), I get my Batman fix on CBS every Thursday night. Actually, I don't watch Elementary anymore, but yeah..

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I was excited about the news initially, but from a few interviews I got the sense that Snyder is uneasy about fast-tracking Batman's integration into the MoSverse and pushing for JL. This quote:

To go along with other recent posts, I'm also still hoping for a 30ish Batman. Established but not enough to take away the spotlight from Superman. As much as I love Batman I can only imagine that a 40ish Batman will only serve to outshine Superman in critical moments.

I'd like to see a smart, tactical Batman but MoS2 needs to be all about Superman's growth. Ideally Batman would be a supporting role - introduce Bruce who would probably be "working with" Lex and trying to stop him from doing something terrible. Toss in a little Batman, but not too much.

Yeah, I agree with all of that. And I'm still very excited at the prospect of seeing these two comic book giants on the big screen for the first time ever (how can you not be?), but I'm not going to lie and pretend this film isn't heavily driven by greed. It is what it is though.

 

[flickchick85]

Cool. Yeah, I don't mind being spoiled since I don't really watch the show anyway. I'll check out that episode you mentioned. Thanks.

Now, I want to get you hooked on Person of Interest with Jim Caviezel. Between POI and Elementary (a show centered on a protagonist -- Sherlock Holmes in modern form -- with unparalleled detective skills), I get my Batman fix on CBS every Thursday night.

I already watch Person of Interest, actually. Well, it lost me a bit this season after the initial Root story cooled off a bit, but I've seen all of S1 and still watch it sporadically. It's just not appointment viewing for me anymore. I just...don't like Caviezel. Never have, going all the way back to Frequency. I like PoI because of Emerson, Nolan, Amy Acker, and of course, The Machine. But Caviezel leaves me cold as he always has, sadly.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Well, Affleck is pretty tall guy and I believe Rebecca Hall is pretty tall too, so that might have made Hamm look shorter there. It's interesting because he looks like he towers over half the cast of Mad Men.

Anyway, I really hope this older Batman rumor is bullsh**. If it means that Bale is coming back, then I'm fine with it. But if it doesn't... I honestly can't think of any 40+ actors that I think would really work as Batman. I like Hamm and Brolin as actors but I don't want to see either of them in the role. I think Caviezel sucks, so I sure as hell wouldn't want to see him in the part and the fact that he once played Cavill's father should automatically rule him out. Oh yeah, and Jett even suggested Captain Bland himself, Josh Duhamel. Puke.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I already watch Person of Interest, actually. Well, it lost me a bit this season after the initial Root story cooled off a bit, but I've seen all of S1 and still watch it sporadically. It's just not appointment viewing for me anymore. I just...don't like Caviezel. Never have, going all the way back to Frequency. I like PoI because of Emerson, Nolan, Amy Acker, and of course, The Machine. But Caviezel leaves me cold as he always has, sadly.

Glad to see not everyone here is on the Caviezel train. The only roles I've liked him in were when he played The Count of Monte Cristo and Jesus. Everything else, he's as dull as a game of Monopoly.

 

[Dragon_316ca]

You guys can cross Armie Hammer's name off the list: http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/01/armie-hammer-the-new-lone-ranger-3907759/

Hammer is now tipped for several other projects, including the role of Batman in the next Superman movie, which will feature both superheroes. Hammer was once due to play Batman in a Justice League film before the project fell apart during the 2007 Hollywood writers’ strike but he dismisses the new rumours.

‘I’m not actually a big fan of superhero films,’ he says. ‘If you have a guy who is supposed to be invulnerable, then what’s the point?’ Anyway, he adds, he’s ruled himself out of doing a film with Superman by signing up to Guy Ritchie’s The Man From U.N.C.L.E. alongside Henry Cavill, the current Man of Steel. ‘I think if Henry and I did that film and then a superhero film straight after, people might start to wonder about us…’

 

[flickchick85]

Glad to see not everyone here is on the Caviezel train. The only roles I've liked him in were when he played The Count of Monte Cristo and Jesus. Everything else, he's as dull as a game of Monopoly.

I didn't even like him in Monte Cristo, tbh. He was fine in the Passion of the Christ, though I don't think he deserved the level of praise he got for that film either. As you say, "dull" is probably the best word to describe how I feel about his performances.

You guys can cross Armie Hammer's name off the list: http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/01/armie-hammer-the-new-lone-ranger-3907759/

Cause for celebration!

 

[georgec]

You guys can cross Armie Hammer's name off the list: http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/01/armie-hammer-the-new-lone-ranger-3907759/

He was never on it as far as I was concerned.

I've seen him in J. Edgar and The Social Network. Nothing there remotely made me think he was capable of being Batman.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

He was never on it as far as I was concerned.

I was just about to say that. Thank you.

 

[georgec]

I was just about to say that. Thank you.

You and I are just reading each other's minds right now, aren't we?

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

You and I are just reading each other's minds right now, aren't we?

Pretty much.

 

[Double B]

You guys can cross Armie Hammer's name off the list: http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/01/armie-hammer-the-new-lone-ranger-3907759/

So many silly things in his statement, I'll not even start to dissect.

Needless to say, good news.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't think Cavizel is anything special either. I do love that Cheesy ass Outlander movie though. I don't hate him or anything but I don't want him for Batman. I think he is fine as an every man but Batman? Nah.

Hammer just played in a Lone Ranger movie. I understand why he did, what young actor wouldn't want to work with Johnny Depp? But he knew it was going to be a dumb Pirates rip off when he landed the role. I like Hammer and wish him success but he isn't above anything and if he isn't careful he will be the next young hyped up actor to flame out.

 

[georgec]

I can't fathom why Hammer was even in the mix for any reason other than being under 30 and tall.

 

[Double B]

"I don't like superhero movies and what's the point in making a movie about an invulnerable man?! So, anyway, I'm making a movie with Henry Cavill..."

 

[Mysteryman]

I can't fathom why Hammer was even in the mix for any reason other than being under 30 and tall.

He was cast as Batman/Bruce Wayne in the scrapped JL film from a few years back.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

"I don't like superhero movies and what's the point in making a movie about an invulnerable man?! So, anyway, I'm making a movie with Henry Cavill..."

The Lone Ranger's a vigilante/superhero of sorts. I guess even Hammer didn't like his own movie.