The Dark Knight Likes And Dislikes

[The Joker]

^Yeah right!!! We all know Jack is a silly Joker. Heath is the real deal in this one.

Jack's Joker is every bit as definitive as Heath's one. They each represent a Joker from two different eras in the comic books.

 

[The_Joker7895]

^Yeah right!!! We all know Jack is a silly Joker. Heath is the real deal in this one.

I personally so far prefer Heath to Jack, for that exact same reason.

Jack's Joker is every bit as definitive as Heath's one. They each represent a Joker from two different eras in the comic books.

However, I completely agree with what you're saying here. Heath represents the more modern Joker we see these days, whereas Jack was more representative of Joker form the Silver Age (if my history is correct).

 

[sasquatchs]

Joker, Dent
Expanded focus on the city, visually and character-wise
The press hounding Dent and Gordon
Most of the known plot besides the typical doubting hero thing
Suit, pod

Lucious in the same Q role
Bale
Prologue goons

 

[explode7]

Whats that likes or dislikes or both?

 

[sasquatchs]

Me? Likes on top

 

[The_Joker7895]

Me? Likes on top

You don't like the Bale???????

 

[Conebone69]

Me? Likes on top

How can you not like bale?

 

[Yurka]

I learned to accept the torso, but I never, EVER learn to like the legs. I'd still much prefer the BB suit, even tweaked slightly.

I actually really like the new suit, its just the cowl that bothers me and has bothered me since BB.

 

[donk70]

Let me explain what I mean. From what I've seen so far, I do not like Ledger's Joker. But, to be fair, I haven't seen much of it. I am excited to see the movie so I can see the performance, though. But unfortunately, what I've seen so far leaves me cold.

 

[Crook]

He could be a Nicholson fan. I've had people who flat out tell me that no matter how great Heath is, Jack will always be the definitive Joker to them.

What exactly is wrong with that? Maybe they simply like their Joker the way Nicholson has played it. Since we know Heath is playing a very different take, then it'd be understandable that they wouldn't be a fan.

 

[sasquatchs]

How can you not like bale?

I like him, just not in this role. Find his take quite bland

 

[Conebone69]

Let me explain what I mean. From what I've seen so far, I do not like Ledger's Joker. But, to be fair, I haven't seen much of it. I am excited to see the movie so I can see the performance, though. But unfortunately, what I've seen so far leaves me cold.

Why?

 

[The_Joker7895]

How can you not like bale?

I mean, he's THE GODD@AMN BATMAN!

Keaton barely spoke as Bats or Bruce, Kilmer was moody all the time, Clooney was....gay.

Bale gave Batman a level a depth never before seen on film. How can you not like him?

 

[Conebone69]

I like him, just not in this role. Find his take quite bland

Wow! Your the first person I talked to that doesnt like bale as batman

 

[Rezzo]

Wow! Your the first person I talked to that doesnt like bale as batman

There's plenty of people on here that don't like him.

 

[donk70]

Why?

I think the lip licking is annoying
I don't like the voice, and in the couple of the clips I've heard so far, the laugh seems labored.

 

[The Joker]

Keaton barely spoke as Bats or Bruce, Kilmer was moody all the time

Dude, these are traits of the Batman. If you want a happy, chatterbox Batman, Adam West is your man

 

[The_Joker7895]

What exactly is wrong with that? Maybe they simply like their Joker the way Nicholson has played it. Since we know Heath is playing a very different take, then it'd be understandable that they wouldn't be a fan.

I didn't say anything was wrong with it.

Dude, these are traits of the Batman. If you want a happy, chatterbox Batman, Adam West is your man

What I meant was that he never really got into the whole billionare playboy act the way Bale does. Bale is so far the only actor to have successfully brought to life all three personalities of the character (Batman, Bruce as a billionare playboy, and Bruce as he really is)

 

[Eggyman]

Dude, these are traits of the Batman. If you want a happy, chatterbox Batman, Adam West is your man

LOL!

 

[batman_1982]

I think the lip licking is annoying
I don't like the voice, and in the couple of the clips I've heard so far, the laugh seems labored.

I don't think the lip licking isn't going to be a big trait of the character. But at least your still maintaining some excitement for the movie as opposed to it turning you off from it all together.

 

[Yurka]

Dude, these are traits of the Batman. If you want a happy, chatterbox Batman, Adam West is your man

Indeed, I think Keaton played Batman/Bruce to a T, although many would not agree

 

[Octoberist]

you can't please everyone.

 

[Crook]

I didn't say anything was wrong with it.

Well, that's what it sounded like.

What I meant was that he never really got into the whole billionare playboy act the way Bale does. Bale is so far the only actor to have successfully brought to life all three personalities of the character (Batman, Bruce as a billionare playboy, and Bruce as he really is)

The arrogant playboy act, is only one of many different interpretations of portraying the public Bruce. Just take a look at any of the comics pre-80s.

 

[BatmanFanatic]

Likes:

- seems to have a more epic, expansive feel

- the cinematography already looks more energetic and sweeping

- most of the cast and crew returning

- Heath Ledger as The Joker seems to be on the right track, personality-wise, like what I keep hearing about The Joker being a force of chaos and destruction (reminds me of Man Who Laughs) and trying to prove to Batman that his rules are ridiculous (reminds me of The Killing Joke)

- Eckhart and Nolan really seem on the right track with Harvey Dent, from all the comments I've heard from them, I really like that they describe Two-Face as still having Harvey's intentions but going about them the wrong way, sounds very in line with how Two-Face is portrayed in The Long Halloween and Dark Victory, which is my favorite Two-Face depiction

- Maggie Gyllenhaal is a better actress than Katie Holmes

- Gary Oldman says he's better-used this time

- seems to be really expanding on groundwork laid at the climax of Batman Begins and building up to a really intense crisis for Batman both externally and internally (externally with Joker throwing Gotham into chaos, Harvey's scarring and downfall, possibly Rachel dying, gang war, etc. and internally with Bruce realizing there is not going to be any foreseeable end to Batman, and being tempted to go against his principles and kill The Joker to end the chaos). Seems like a very complex, ambitious plot with all kinds of stuff going on that will all lead up to Batman really being tested more intensely than anything in Begins.

- little touches, like The Joker making television appearances, his hijacked semi reading "slaughter is the best medicine", the rooftop scene between Batman, Gordon, and Dent straight out of The Long Halloween, Harvey's coin

Dislikes:

- you can see the word "Chicago" in some shots in the trailer, I just hope those are edited out in the finished movie

- while Gyllenhaal is a better actress than Holmes, I still feel Rachel Dawes is a superfluous and unnecessary character who's more of a plot device

- I think The Joker looks too "messy" and would really look a lot better without a cut smile (it seems to interfere with Ledger's already huge grin and actually make his mouth look smaller). I would also have much preferred if he was permawhite.

- why not just name "Ramirez" and "Stephens" Montoya and Bullock, as they seem to serve the same purposes?

- was hoping Scarecrow would have more than a cameo, but a little Scarecrow is better than no Scarecrow

- the Batsuit is too *busy*

- still a little clunky, over-explanatory dialogue, especially in the prologue

Wow, your list is almost the same as mine!t:

I think it's pretty funny that someone thinks a movie with the Joker in it could exist without humor on some sort of level.

But seriously, this movie looks to have much more tension than Begins did.

Well I for one would love Joker humor, but all the jokes I've seen so far in all the trailers are lame, campy jokes that I don't like.

In terms of darkness, it's on par (from the trailers) with BB. But the 'less serious tone', Conebone? I don't know where you're getting that from. This is far from light hearted.

Remember this: The Empire Strikes back is considered the darkest of the Star Wars trilogy and it probably has the funniest jokes. Just because it has jokes doesn't mean it's a comedy, Conebone. You need comedy (in any form) in any movie.

Thank you, eggyman!

Jesus, I feel like im trying to explain rocket science to 1st graders

Can everyone please stop trashing Cone cause he had an opinion? Jeebus.

He's allowed to be worried that TKD won't be as dark. You have to admit the trailers DO have way too many stupid jokes in them. Personally I don't think this is reflective of the actual film, just a marketing strategy. Lets all hope and pray that when it comes time to see the movie Cone's worries will be misplaced, okay?

 

[The_Joker7895]

Indeed, I think Keaton played Batman/Bruce to a T, although many would not agree

I don't deny that he was great, but I never really bought him as Bruce Wayne the billionaire playboy. That, and Christian Bale is far superior in every way. t: