Logan LOGAN - User Review and Reactions Thread (Spoilers)

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Just about to leave for my 2nd viewing, can't wait!

 

[Faora]

Already see 3 times).

 

[manosho]

10/10.

 

[Abudefduf]

Saw the movie a few days ago.

First act: 9/10
Rest of the movie: 6 or 6.5/10

Worst part were the mutant kids and their corny powers (grass control... seriously?). I also didn't like how the Reavers were completely wasted... you could've replaced them with regular goons and nothing would have changed.

But again, I really loved the first act.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Saw it, and loved it. This was a great way for Jackman to leave the roll.

The film has problems for sure, but what makes it work is the human emotional level of the film. Much like the MCU films have been doing, this is a CBM film in a genre setting, specifically a western. Hence all the Shane references in the film.

I think it was great to see an emotional connection between Jackman and Stewart that we really haven't seen since X2 and never in this way. It sets up the backbone for the whole picture, that is able to resonate with the viewers.

The biggest thing I didn't like, had nothing to do with the compaints that I hear on here. I'm no prude, I watch game of thrones and love it, but what I don't like is when a character that should be accessible to younger generations is catered to the 18+ crowd. Adding the F-bombs, and over the top gratuitous violence added nothing to what was already a beautiful screen play that had a human quality. That's why I didn't get that this film mirrors Shane so closely, one of my favorite movies that I saw when I was 7 years old.

That kind of stuff is fine for Deadpool, but I freakin' hate this edgier crap that Fox has been throwing into the X-men films, making sure they get at least one F-bomb in per film and this was a chance to have their orgasm of that kind of stuff.

Again, I have no other complaints of this film. It's by far the best Wolverine movie and it's probably the best X-men movie, but it's the least comic bookie of them. In fact I was a bit confused by the timeline, if this is supposed to be an alternate timeline to the other films, or a direct sequel. There's a line in there about the statue of liberty that suggests it is a direct sequel and we see Logan's Samurai sword, but other things that seem to contradict DOFP, and the other Wolverine films. So I took this film as an indirect sequel and only loose connections to the existing cannon, much like the "old man Logan" series was indirect to the rest of the marvel comics.

This is kind of a bitter sweet end. Jackman was the one guy to appear in every X-men film, be it cameo or major appearance. For someone that received so much criticism when he first took the role, he truly made it his own. They've recast just about every other X-men role save his, and if they try, those will be some big shoes to fill.

But what a way to go out.

10/10

That was actually a really clever reference. Because Xavier wasn't referring to X1, he was talking about the motel where Logan meets Laura, but Logan's still got memories of X1 so he just assumed that's what Charles meant.

 

[Ivan Drago]

That was actually a really clever reference. Because Xavier wasn't referring to X1, he was talking about the motel where Logan meets Laura, but Logan's still got memories of X1 so he just assumed that's what Charles meant.

I understood this on my third viewing. Before I was confused as to why Xavier randomly mentioned statue of liberty. He was talking about the motel which Laura and the nurse were staying at. The motel was called Statue something (can't remember the name exactly) and had a little statue of liberty as the motels sign.

Speaking of which, I've now seen Logan three times in theaters, I've only done that with a movie once in my life before. Surprisingly, I liked it the most this time. I was able to catch all the little details and nuances.

I took my Mom to see it, she loved Laura. Wanted to adopt her lol.

 

[righthooksrus86]

I understood this on my third viewing. Before I was confused as to why Xavier randomly mentioned statue of liberty. He was talking about the motel which Laura and the nurse were staying at. The motel was called Statue something (can't remember the name exactly) and had a little statue of liberty as the motels sign.

Speaking of which, I've now seen Logan three times in theaters, I've only done that with a movie once in my life before. Surprisingly, I liked it the most this time. I was able to catch all the little details and nuances.

I took my Mom to see it, she loved Laura. Wanted to adopt her lol.

Haha Wolverine could barely handle that little wildchild.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

That was actually a really clever reference. Because Xavier wasn't referring to X1, he was talking about the motel where Logan meets Laura, but Logan's still got memories of X1 so he just assumed that's what Charles meant.

I actually picked is up on my 2nd viewing tonight, very clever stuff. I loved the movie just as much if not more than the first time, it's such a damn good movie. I don't think we will get a CBM like this for a long time. Amazing stuff.

 

[LoganPool]

That was actually a really clever reference. Because Xavier wasn't referring to X1, he was talking about the motel where Logan meets Laura, but Logan's still got memories of X1 so he just assumed that's what Charles meant.

I got that on my 2nd viewing also, but Charles does reference X1 too, when he said Logan was pursuing a career as a cage fighter.

 

[SuperSanchez]

Saw the movie a few days ago.

First act: 9/10
Rest of the movie: 6 or 6.5/10

Worst part were the mutant kids and their corny powers (grass control... seriously?). I also didn't like how the Reavers were completely wasted... you could've replaced them with regular goons and nothing would have changed.

But again, I really loved the first act.

I can't help but notice, on my second viewing, after the scene where the bury Charles, the movie just didn't seem as interesting and I'm not sure what it is but yeah the first 2 acts were definetly amazing and flowed well and then the 3rd act just kind of lacked. Even though Logan's death and funeral were great (and the scene where Logan is telling Laura how she has everything etc.), the scenes in between just kind of lacked for some reason.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I can't agree with you guys, for me those scenes developed not only Laura it her relationship with Logan. It's one of the few times the movie slows down and we get to know a bit more about X23.

 

[Ivan Drago]

Yeah. I'm glad the movie included the other mutant kids, because it ensures that a new generation of mutants will continue.

 

[titansupes]

I think the biggest flaw for me after Xavier's funeral is that Logan passes or falls asleep out one or two too many times.

 

[Ivan Drago]

I think the biggest flaw for me after Xavier's funeral is that Logan passes or falls asleep out one or two too many times.

It does kind of make sense though. Dude was at the end of his rope, both physically and mentally.

 

[righthooksrus86]

I got that on my 2nd viewing also, but Charles does reference X1 too, when he said Logan was pursuing a career as a cage fighter.

I forgot all about that, I'm glad you reminded me because i loved that reference. That cage fight in X1 was a huge moment for all Wolverine fans.

 

[danoyse]

It does kind of make sense though. Dude was at the end of his rope, both physically and mentally.

Yeah, the only thing he had left that was keeping him going was taking care of Charles and getting to that boat. Once Charles was gone (not to mention the way he went), it took everything out of him. He didn’t believe Eden was real, he really hadn’t bonded with the kid. He was done.

Honestly, I think he would have died on the side of the road next to the truck if Laura hadn’t gotten him to a doctor. She barely got him back on his feet again.

 

[SuperSanchez]

I can't agree with you guys, for me those scenes developed not only Laura it her relationship with Logan. It's one of the few times the movie slows down and we get to know a bit more about X23.

Yeah you're right about developing Laura, as I said, I liked that scene at night where Logan is talking to Laura while the kids are at the campfire. It was also cool to see Laura interact with the other kids, but for some reason, on my 2nd viewing, the scenes in the woods just didn't seem as interesting. Maybe it'll change on my 3rd viewing lol

 

[danoyse]

I can't agree with you guys, for me those scenes developed not only Laura it her relationship with Logan. It's one of the few times the movie slows down and we get to know a bit more about X23.

I agree. Logan was dying at this point, and it seemed like he was leaving nothing behind. Here were these kids who kind of idolized him...even if it was from stories he rejected. One of them even had a Wolverine toy. I think it showed that he left an impression, and in the end, a legacy through these kids.

 

[Infinity9999x]

The biggest thing I didn't like, had nothing to do with the compaints that I hear on here. I'm no prude, I watch game of thrones and love it, but what I don't like is when a character that should be accessible to younger generations is catered to the 18+ crowd. Adding the F-bombs, and over the top gratuitous violence added nothing to what was already a beautiful screen play that had a human quality. That's why I didn't get that this film mirrors Shane so closely, one of my favorite movies that I saw when I was 7 years old.

That kind of stuff is fine for Deadpool, but I freakin' hate this edgier crap that Fox has been throwing into the X-men films, making sure they get at least one F-bomb in per film and this was a chance to have their orgasm of that kind of stuff.


10/10

I commented on this on the DCEU/MCU thread, but I actually disagree. And I'm all for not forcing gratuitous violence or "adult themes" on stories that don't call for them. I don't think we need an R rated Batman movie to tell good Batman stories. I also don't think we need an R rated Wolverine movie to tell a good Wolverine story.

However, the themes of this film were family and secondly violence. Specifically, what leading a life of violence means and the repercussions of doing so. To shy away from that violence would be a huge disservice to the story. The violence they displayed in this film, while very intense, never felt gratuitous. It reminded me of how violence was shown in films like Saving Private Ryan. It was hard to watch, it was brutal, but it also had a point. Seeing the savagery of it helps us as the viewers understand even more why Wolverine is so broken. Without that violence, his last words to X23 wouldn't carry nearly as much weight.

The only parts I felt were somewhat forced in the film were Professor X's f-bombs (not including the ones he dropped in his rambling state), and the gratuitous boob shot. Other than that, everything else felt very natural and earned. Yes, Wolverine is a character that should and can appeal to all ages. But not all of the stories featuring him are appropriate to all ages. This was one of those stories.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I got that on my 2nd viewing also, but Charles does reference X1 too, when he said Logan was pursuing a career as a cage fighter.

He does, though there are discrepancies between what Charles says and what we saw in X1. He says that he found him instead of Rogue, and that Logan was hooked on barbiturates at the time. So it's more of a vague line up rather than out and out saying that the events of X1 happened.

 

[righthooksrus86]

He does, though there are discrepancies between what Charles says and what we saw in X1. He says that he found him instead of Rogue, and that Logan was hooked on barbiturates at the time. So it's more of a vague line up rather than out and out saying that the events of X1 happened.

what's a barbiturate?

 

[Roose Bolton]

what's a barbiturate?

Basically drugs that slow you down and put you into a calm and doped up state, they're used to help anxiety and pain but like a lot of things they can get abused as a recreational drug.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Basically drugs that slow you down and put you into a calm and doped up state, they're used to help anxiety and pain but like a lot of things they can get abused as a recreational drug.

I noticed that as well, and I was thinking back to if there was ever a reference he was doing anything of the sort in the old movies.

Looks to be another example that Logan exists within its own world.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I noticed that as well, and I was thinking back to if there was ever a reference he was doing anything of the sort in the old movies.

Looks to be another example that Logan exists within its own world.

There wasn't any mention of that in the original timeline, but there's a big blank space of about 3-4 decades between Logan's appearance in Apocalypse and his time in the epilogue of DoFP. If there were any events that correlate to X1/X2, presumably they'd play out differently.

 

[danoyse]

We were talking about the timeline thing at work today. When Xavier mentioned the cage fighting, it sounds like it’s the X1 timeline, but at the same time, Xavier and Logan were doing “some catching up” at the end of DOFP. Xavier’s mind was so gone at this point, he could be remembering things from the DOFP timeline and messing them up with the stuff Logan told him about the other timeline.

I love that there was no way to really tell which was right.