Look, Up In The Sky....!

[SamuraiSon6]

This is a thread devoted to flight and all topics that come with the title.

First, when do you think Clark will learn to fly on Smallville. NOT when you want him to, but when you think it will actually happen, if you do, and how it will be built up, what will lead up to it. Hopefully, some of the vets like AgentPat, Serene, and avidreader (to name a few) can chime in with precedents from the show already (such as Clark dreaming he was flying in one of the earlier seasons, and the more recent Kal-El actual lift off in season 4)


now, onto the discussion...

many people have been talking lately about how Bizzaro flew in "Phantom" and that if clark wants to stand a chance against him, he will have to learn to fly. others think if clark is to take a world tour, he should be flying, not superspeeding across water, so share your thoughts on how and why Clark should or should not fly

 

[Syncos]

I think it's about time to see Clark fly. Though I don't think it's going to be necessary to fight Bizarro. Afterall, Zod could fly, and Clark beat him.

As for alluding to flight, it started as early as season one.
In the second episode, Clark dreams of flying to Lana's house. When he woke up, he was levitating above his bed.

Clark is more than aware at this point that flight is one of the abilities of Kryptonians on earth. He's seen Jor El fly in "Relic", Kara flew with him, in "Covenant". I'm sure he was told about 'Kal El' flying, from "Crusade"...

It's all about his mental blocks, his own fear of flying. Something needs to happen to force him to get from one place to another, where flight is the only option. I have a feeling once Clark consciously gets through one test flight. He'll realize that it's no big deal, and will add it to his repertoire.

 

[SamuraiSon6]

yeah, zod could fly and clark beat him, so i dont think its necessary to beat bizzaro, but i do think it is a good opportunity to bring it to clarks attention

i wouldnt mind seeing another scene where he is floating over his bed either

 

[avidreader]

I'm in two minds about this. A part of me wants to see Clark learn to fly all by himself, and another part of me thinks that it would be cool to have MM teach him to fly.

 

[Kaboom]

when lois falls from a helicopter, hell fly to save her.

 

[AssMan]

when lois falls from a helicopter, hell fly to save her.

Or he will get a rope & act like a cow boy & use his super strength to bring the helicopter with Lois in it down. Oh wait

 

[Justice Bringer]

When the producers finally get over this 'no flights, no tights' thing for Clark; may be a while.

It's good that they've been able to bend the rules to allow for Clark's altered personality states to be allowed to fly.

 

[SamuraiSon6]

when lois falls from a helicopter, hell fly to save her.

maybe not that exact scenario, but something like it would be great in my opinion. it would fit with the precedent of clark learning new powers in moments of extreme emotions. to save someone he loved, he would lose all fear of flight and just jump, not really trying to fly, but just doing what has to be donet:

 

[The Caped Knight]

when lois falls from a helicopter, hell fly to save her.

Word

 

[SamuraiSon6]

okay....maybe that exact scenario...

 

[TheCaptain22555]

okay....maybe that exact scenario...

Yep, it's not impossible though I hope it happens this coming season.

 

[SamuraiSon6]

i think i would like to see him try and 'learn' it a few times on his on, but he should actually do it when caught up in his emotions.

who all thinks he should talk/train with jor-el again before flying...?

 

[TheCaptain22555]

i think i would like to see him try and 'learn' it a few times on his on, but he should actually do it when caught up in his emotions.

who all thinks he should talk/train with jor-el again before flying...?

It would make sense to have him talk to Jor-El, but I think it might be a scene where he's thinking about Jonathan Kent teaching him how to control his others powers (heat vision and the scarecrow? ) and him being determined to fly and finally succeeding.

 

[Syncos]

I would love to see him connect with Johnathan somehow, maybe in his own imagination, or some kryptonian crystal ball, or something. Though Jor El would be the next best thing. It might be a good idea to have Clark forced to go it on his own, though.

 

[TwilightPro101]

Bizzaro fight is enough of a lead into it.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Seeing how Season 7 will probably be the last and how the writers confirmed the last shot of Smallville Being Clark ripping his shirt to reveal the \S/ and FLYING I voted Season 7

 

[SamuraiSon6]

i know this sounds ridiculous, but lets just say hypothetically that the SV crew is told they cannot legally show clark fly, and all we get at the end of the series is Clark with a shirt rip running towards the camera....would you accept this?

would you accept it cold turkery and assume he learns it later and just jumps and superspeeds everywhere, or would you accept it if they had scenes of him talking about it or learning from jor-el or MM

so i guess the real question is, does clark have to fly before he can actually be superman in your opinion....?

 

[AgentPat]

i know this sounds ridiculous, but lets just say hypothetically that the SV crew is told they cannot legally show clark fly, and all we get at the end of the series is Clark with a shirt rip running towards the camera....would you accept this?

I think a better hypothetical question would be about the suit and how it'll be shown, because flying isn't an issue beyond what the show's own budget will allow.

would you accept it cold turkey and assume he learns it later and just jumps and superspeeds everywhere, or would you accept it if they had scenes of him talking about it or learning from jor-el or MM

We've already seen Clark fly. There's no doubt in my mind we'll see it again.

so i guess the real question is, does clark have to fly before he can actually be superman in your opinion....?

It's kind of a defining characteristic LOL. On a surface level, that's what Superman does, right?

"Where's Neo?"
"He's doing his Superman thing."

 

[Serene]

I think it's about time to see Clark fly. Though I don't think it's going to be necessary to fight Bizarro. Afterall, Zod could fly, and Clark beat him.

As for alluding to flight, it started as early as season one.
In the second episode, Clark dreams of flying to Lana's house. When he woke up, he was levitating above his bed.

Clark is more than aware at this point that flight is one of the abilities of Kryptonians on earth. He's seen Jor El fly in "Relic", Kara flew with him, in "Covenant". I'm sure he was told about 'Kal El' flying, from "Crusade"...

It's all about his mental blocks, his own fear of flying. Something needs to happen to force him to get from one place to another, where flight is the only option. I have a feeling once Clark consciously gets through one test flight. He'll realize that it's no big deal, and will add it to his repertoire.

Agreed.
I'm think I'm looking forward to his realization (and the look on his face) when he does realize that he can fly, and that he loves it.

 

[COMPO]

I'm in two minds about this. A part of me wants to see Clark learn to fly all by himself, and another part of me thinks that it would be cool to have MM teach him to fly.

Kind of like a dad teaching a child how to ride a bike.

CLARK: Look jon i'm doing it! I'm doing it!

 

[ariellem]

They had a ton of fun in Heat with Clark learning to control his heat vision. I'd like to see that humorous approach for flying. Have him taking a big leap the way he does now, for some useful reason, and midair he gets distracted by something that makes him suddenly zoom up, or hover. A split second later when he realizes what just happened, he loses control and cannonballs/tumbles into the side of a building or a tree or something. Or he leaps and gets stuck on something, and has to sort of levitate himself to get off of it without breaking it (the windmill, for instance). I'd like to see him grappling with his fear of heights and trying to figure out what triggers the flight abilities rather than having MM or anyone else teach him. If he wants to grab Chloe/Lois/Lana/his mom/the dog and take them along for comic relief, that'd be fine.

I'm assuming it's primarily his fear of heights/falling that is inhibiting him at this point, since he has taken several huge and deliberate leaps in recent years. Then again, he fell out of the sky in Zod and made a crater and didn't seem in the least bit disturbed by the big fall, so we can't use the SR approach of having him hover to keep from going splat.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

Then again, he fell out of the sky in Zod and made a crater and didn't seem in the least bit disturbed by the big fall...

I think he was just a little preoccupied with finding Zod; he didn't have time to focus on his fears.

 

[SamuraiSon6]

I think a better hypothetical question would be about the suit and how it'll be shown, because flying isn't an issue beyond what the show's own budget will allow.

We've already seen Clark fly. There's no doubt in my mind we'll see it again.

It's kind of a defining characteristic LOL. On a surface level, that's what Superman does, right?

"Where's Neo?"
"He's doing his Superman thing."

well, i guess that is the real question then, are there any legal actions we know of trying to keep clark from flying full time (not as an alter-ego) on smallville, or have gough/millar just not felt it was the time yet...

i love that line in matrix

 

[AgentPat]

well, i guess that is the real question then, are there any legal actions we know of trying to keep clark from flying full time (not as an alter-ego) on smallville,

Legal reasons? Oh hell no. It's just "another power," after all. LOL Budgetary limitations and plot conundrums are a different story, however.

We all know how expensive it is to do a good flying scene, so that's a big issue right there. Less obvious issues have to do with plot and characterization. Welling himself has said once Clark starts flying, things become too easy for Clark. DeKnight has pointed out on numerous occasions how difficult it is to write Clark simply because the character is ridiculously powerful. Strength, speed and heat vision alone make Clark one baaaaad mofo. Can't forget he's invulnerable too. LOL Coming up with good physical challenges for him is hard because at any given time, "he can bring the house down," which is probably why they cuff him with Kryptonite and give him emotional barriers all of the time. When Clark starts flying, I think the writers will be close to packing it in - literally and figuratively LOL.

or have gough/millar just not felt it was the time yet...

Yeah, that's basically it. The "no flights" rule is totally self-imposed. Other than budgetary limitations, they probably don't want to paint themselves into a corner by giving Clark flight too soon. Once he learns how to fly, audiences will want to see him do it in every episode. I know I will.

 

[The Caped Knight]

At this point Clark should be flying, (he should be flying not freaking super speeding for place to place.) He's Destined to become SUPERMAN not The Flash .

Sups flys

Flash runs