Look, Up In The Sky....!

[SamuraiSon6]

Legal reasons? Oh hell no. It's just "another power," after all. LOL Budgetary limitations and plot conundrums are a different story, however.

We all know how expensive it is to do a good flying scene, so that's a big issue right there. Less obvious issues have to do with plot and characterization. Welling himself has said once Clark starts flying, things become too easy for Clark. DeKnight has pointed out on numerous occasions how difficult it is to write Clark simply because the character is ridiculously powerful. Strength, speed and heat vision alone make Clark one baaaaad mofo. Can't forget he's invulnerable too. LOL Coming up with good physical challenges for him is hard because at any given time, "he can bring the house down," which is probably why they cuff him with Kryptonite and give him emotional barriers all of the time. When Clark starts flying, I think the writers will be close to packing it in - literally and figuratively LOL.



Yeah, that's basically it. The "no flights" rule is totally self-imposed. Other than budgetary limitations, they probably don't want to paint themselves into a corner by giving Clark flight too soon. Once he learns how to fly, audiences will want to see him do it in every episode. I know I will.

good post AgentPat, thankst:

 

[04nbod]

Part of me wants him to get teased and taunted into flying after all we think the same thing- it will have been seven years and clark kent still can't fly!

 

[AgentPat]

In a way, it's too bad they already blew their wad (can I say that? LOL) on Clark flying in Crusade. From a ratings' POV, casual fans may not find it as such a draw now, so they're really going to have to do something special. Well, at least I *hope* they do.

Personally, I LOATHE the idea of having another character TELL Clark he can fly, and then proceed to show him how it's done. How utterly BORING.

Don't throw stones, but I liked how they went about it in SR and wouldn't mind something similar in SV. [ducks from flying objects] Hear me out...

Every one of Clark's powers have manifested unexpectedly as he's matured. (Kal-El flying under the influence of Jor-El was an odd exception.) The novelty of an "origin" tale is seeing how the character discovers he/she HAS a "super" ability, and then proceeds to learn how to use and control it. But Clark is Superman (so to speak). It's not the same as Obi Wan saying, "Use the Force, Luke." Clark isn't one of many; he in fact IS the Last Son of Krypton.

Clark already knows he can fly (Crusade) but he doesn't know how. I'd like to see there come a time when he defies gravity by accident (trips but doesn't fall ala Byrne, or falls but doesn't hit the ground ala SR), and then have him ruminate the ability with Lana and Chloe. The writers can explore his fear of heights and possibly his further alienation from the human race. Lana could comfort him on an emotional level - it doesn't change who you are, it doesn't change my feelings for you, etc. etc, and Chloe could be the one who lightens the moment with geeky elation - so how fast can you go, well at least you won't wear out your boots anymore, etc. etc. The two women would mirror the thoughts of the fandom and be its chorus.

Then the pièce de résistance would be where Clark needs to put his newfound ability to the test. As with all new power episodes, there should come a time in the same ep where necessity prompts Clark to have to literally fly to somebody's rescue.

That is what I'd like to see. I also hope that MM is not involved in the episode that introduces flight. I'd like to see the writers keep it between the main cast.

 

[TwilightPro101]

Push him to the limit and make him start to fly during this whole Bizarro mess. It's as good a time as any.

 

[AgentPat]

Push him to the limit and make him start to fly during this whole Bizarro mess. It's as good a time as any.

For me, Clark flying in order to battle a villain doesn't have the same emotional impact as him flying to save somebody. Every origin tale I can think of has him saving people first, and then using his abilities to battle threats later. It's a defining characteristic. Superman is Earth's protector; he saves people.

...Now, if Bizarro was pummeling people from the air with boulders, I could see Clark flying into action. LOL

 

[triplet]

In a way, it's too bad they already blew their wad (can I say that? LOL) on Clark flying in Crusade. From a ratings' POV, casual fans may not find it as such a draw now, so they're really going to have to do something special. Well, at least I *hope* they do.

Personally, I LOATHE the idea of having another character TELL Clark he can fly, and then proceed to show him how it's done. How utterly BORING.

Don't throw stones, but I liked how they went about it in SR and wouldn't mind something similar in SV. [ducks from flying objects] Hear me out...

Every one of Clark's powers have manifested unexpectedly as he's matured. (Kal-El flying under the influence of Jor-El was an odd exception.) The novelty of an "origin" tale is seeing how the character discovers he/she HAS a "super" ability, and then proceeds to learn how to use and control it. But Clark is Superman (so to speak). It's not the same as Obi Wan saying, "Use the Force, Luke." Clark isn't one of many; he in fact IS the Last Son of Krypton.

Clark already knows he can fly (Crusade) but he doesn't know how. I'd like to see there come a time when he defies gravity by accident (trips but doesn't fall ala Byrne, or falls but doesn't hit the ground ala SR), and then have him ruminate the ability with Lana and Chloe. The writers can explore his fear of heights and possibly his further alienation from the human race. Lana could comfort him on an emotional level - it doesn't change who you are, it doesn't change my feelings for you, etc. etc, and Chloe could be the one who lightens the moment with geeky elation - so how fast can you go, well at least you won't wear out your boots anymore, etc. etc. The two women would mirror the thoughts of the fandom and be its chorus.

Then the pièce de résistance would be where Clark needs to put his newfound ability to the test. As with all new power episodes, there should come a time in the same ep where necessity prompts Clark to have to literally fly to somebody's rescue.

That is what I'd like to see. I also hope that MM is not involved in the episode that introduces flight. I'd like to see the writers keep it between the main cast.

Quoted for truth!



I don't think MM should show him how to fly, he knows he can do it already (on a physical level anyway) since he's been doing it since season 1 episode 2. He just doesn't know how to do it on purpose yet.

I think you hit on some great ideas and actually made some good points about how Lana and Chloe can both fit into helping him without him really needing a person to tell him how to fly.

 

[TwilightPro101]

For me, Clark flying in order to battle a villain doesn't have the same emotional impact as him flying to save somebody. Every origin tale I can think of has him saving people first, and then using his abilities to battle threats later. It's a defining characteristic. Superman is Earth's protector; he saves people.

...Now, if Bizarro was pummeling people from the air with boulders, I could see Clark flying into action. LOL

Considering Bizarro's already out flying him and thrashing him, while Lois, Chloe and Lionel are inside the dam. It just seems like logical and emotional reason enough to get himself into gear on it. Zod was flying and Clark stood around and gave him the same beating back minus the flight.

I think the fact that they've done in stand alone episodes is kind of pointless at this point. They've had plenty of time to have him accept his ability and start using it. That whole fear aspect was something he got over pretty quick in the comics and after his other half doing it, they really have no excuse.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Personally, I think Clark knows how to fly, but chooses not to. It might be a fear of heights that keeps him grounded. I mean, if Clark knows he has this amazing ability, why wouldn't he choose to explore it (just like every other power Clark discovered he had), unless he has his reservations.

Then again, the show has always been very vague on the whole topic of flight, so who knows...

 

[TwilightPro101]

The vagueness honestly annoys me as a fan of the show. I love what they play around with, but they need to iron out more details this year. Particular towards his ability of flight...but that's a given.

 

[AgentPat]

Quoted for truth!

:heart:

I don't think MM should show him how to fly, he knows he can do it already (on a physical level anyway) since he's been doing it since season 1 episode 2. He just doesn't know how to do it on purpose yet.

Exactly. I want him to figure it out on his own.

I think you hit on some great ideas and actually made some good points about how Lana and Chloe can both fit into helping him without him really needing a person to tell him how to fly.

Thanks!

Again, the novelty in origin tales is the "wow" factor. This is from every POV - the hero (or villain), the supporting characters who get to witness their feats, and the audience who marvels at how real the fantasy can be if the characters act with the same awe that we would in such a situation.

Then there's the character building, interpersonal relationships. This would be the meat and potatoes of the ep.

Lana loves Clark. If he's distraught, she's going to comfort him emotionally. She could give a rat's arse what he's capable of doing; she loves him for who he is inside, and really, that's all Clark ever wanted.

Chloe is the more witty, practical individual. She'd be more excited FOR Clark, which brings him pride. DeKnight called it a "subtle arrogance" to the character. Clark knows he can do things that nobody else can do, and it makes him happy when he uses those abilities to help people. Chloe's exuberance and joke cracking would snap him out of any funk he might be in.

There's a little bit of Lana and Chloe in all of us.

The writers could do SOOOO much with this episode. The emphasis should be on character, not effects, though admittedly, they're gonna break the bank on this ep. LOL

 

[TwilightPro101]

That's the thing that's always great about the Season Openers and Finales. Breaking the bank. If it wasn't for those episodes, I would have tuned out long ago.

 

[Lighthouse]

Word

I love this picture, and how the his hands are just barely in the picture.

 

[Bnightwing]

I'm in two minds about this. A part of me wants to see Clark learn to fly all by himself, and another part of me thinks that it would be cool to have MM teach him to fly.

same here but when he jumped from building to building i wish he found out then but i guess not or martha tells him he flew when he was kal-el

 

[Marcus M.]

Clark did fly when he stopped that missle with the nuke warhead, in that episode, where a powerless Clark died and came back with his power. I don't think that was a jump.

 

[Syncos]

Clark did fly when he stopped that missle with the nuke warhead, in that episode, where a powerless Clark died and came back with his power. I don't think that was a jump.

Even though he launched the same way he did when he flew as Kal-El, i'm pretty sure they passed that off as a jump.

 

[TwilightPro101]

Even though he launched the same way he did when he flew as Kal-El, i'm pretty sure they passed that off as a jump.

Yeah, I agree. Nothing more than a "super-jump" ala the first version of Superman.

 

[SamuraiSon6]

ah, the "super jump", what a tease...

 

[TwilightPro101]

It's basically what they did in "Reconcking". Only difference was the missile. Ironically, the same season.