"Make America Great Again"the F'dup Chapters in American History (The Trump Years) - Part 2

[samsnee]

The Japanese Prime Minister's face at the end of that awkward hand shake today says what most of us are feeling.

 

[Sithborg]

Nothing looking like a smoking gun yet... but the fact that they've been able to find proof of some of the smaller aspects of the Dossier should put more credibility on the rest of it....

That and the Russian who likely leaked it to the British guy is dead now.

so b2b weekends for the twitler to play golf. america is a disaster folks...but 36 holes is 36 holes.

At this rate this rate his being a part time president is a benefit.

I wonder what Putin wants in return?

Snowden had to know this was coming. Russia was always going to play this card it was just a matter of waiting for the opportune moment. If he is smart and has dependable allies he might be able to escape to another country. And youre right, if Snowden is handed over in the next four years the GOP and Trump will nail him to the wall and use him for a dart board just to make an example of him.

Snowden was pretty much just a useful propaganda tool for Putin. I mean, this is better than Putin making him disappear.

So, one of Flynn's aides got denied security clearance. Bets on Russian ties?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Free Snowden!

Jail Russian Agent, Bill of Rights subverter: Donald Trump (orange Mussolini, orange Pinhead).

 

[Hotwire]

https://***********/realDonaldTrump/status/830389130311921667

Our legal system is broken! "77% of refugees allowed into U.S. since travel reprieve hail from seven suspect countries." (WT) SO DANGEROUS!

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

The fear from terrorism is the same hysteria that has fueled idiotic and dangerous policy thoughout human history.

It's not based on reason.

Number of deaths for leading causes of death:
Heart disease: 614,348
Cancer: 591,699
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 147,101
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 136,053
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 133,103
Alzheimer's disease: 93,541
Diabetes: 76,488
Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,227
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis: 48,146
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 42,773

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm

 

[regwec]

I think the execution of Snowden would be something of a milestone.

 

[Dr Lee]

https://***********/realDonaldTrump/status/830389130311921667

and yet no terror attack has been committed by anyone from those countries on US soil... Tango'd Minion is scaremongering again.

Anyone see Piers Morgan getting completely destroyed on Bill Meyer's show? was bluntly told to **** off when he tried to spin that the Muslim Ban wasn't a Muslim Ban... (Hence why I can't link the clip in here) before trying to claim that the dude schooling him had 'lost his audience' (he hadn't)

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I think the execution of Snowden would be something of a milestone.

If by milestone you mean a national tragedy and a 21st century low point then yes, executing a whistleblower who exposed unconstitional government activity is a major milestone.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

and yet no terror attack has been committed by anyone from those countries on US soil... Tango'd Minion is scaremongering again.

Anyone see Piers Morgan getting completely destroyed on Bill Meyer's show? was bluntly told to **** off when he tried to spin that the Muslim Ban wasn't a Muslim Ban... (Hence why I can't link the clip in here) before trying to claim that the dude schooling him had 'lost his audience' (he hadn't)

Bill Maher?

 

[terry78]

Now there nationwide immigration raids going on. Pushback obviously. "You wanna stop the travel ban, ok. We're about to really **** you up."

 

[Dr Lee]

Bill Maher?

Yeah... him, sorry... never been very good at remembering names of people... pisses me off constantly when it happens.

 

[chamber-music]

I really don't get Trump and some of the Republicans jobs for American workers talk when some of them are also against paying workers a living wage.

They want to bring back low skilled manufacturing jobs from overseas and want Americans doing the seasonal farm hand picking/planting jobs that south American immigrants do but they don't want to pay the American citizens who would do those jobs a living wage.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Yeah... him, sorry... never been very good at remembering names of people... pisses me off constantly when it happens.

No worries.

Just wanted everyone on the same page.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Now there nationwide immigration raids going on. Pushback obviously. "You wanna stop the travel ban, ok. We're about to really **** you up."

Too bad crackdowns on immigrants typically hurts the local economy.

Rallying against the status quo should be for emo teens not global leaders.

There's a reason the status quo was established to begin with. Extremists are always too blind and self righteous to accept it.

 

[Wise]

As an Australian this is my view on Trump.

His whole song and dance about other companies stealing American jobs is hogwash. American based companies decided decades ago that they would control the development, the branding and the IP. Manufacturing would go to the cheapest bidder, which usually ended up being China and Mexico. Donald proclaims he can use tariffs and taxation to coax these corporations to move manufacturing back to the rust belt, but the sad truth is it's much easier for those companies to wear a 25% tariff (The cost of which will be the increased price paid by the consumer) than move the factory back to the good ole U,S of A, where they'll pay a union worker five to ten times the labour cost and have to worry about safety regulations, overtime and public holidays. That's the cost of world trade, it isn't perfect but it has made the world a much safer place as war has become decidedly less profitable as countries rely much more on each other as trading partners.

The truth is that the massive spike in consumer product innovations including the device you are using to read this on is largely thanks to the massive budgets for R&D that are afforded to companies by low manufacturing costs.

Sure you're going to see companies make a song and dance about moving one plant back Wisconsin or Michigan, but those operations will be padded by heavy automation and that's the way it'll be going for the next couple of decades. The days of a blue collar steel worker supporting a family of five are well and truly over.

Yes American jobs have taken a hit in recent times, but that's the natural struggle that countries have to go through as they adapt to a changing world. The stupid thing is that Trump won't allow his country to embrace the renewable technologies that will actually create new jobs. Instead he's promising them their coal and manufacturing jobs back, that just ain't gonna happen. While this is happening China is spending almost half a trillion on renewable energy in the next four years and in effect creating fifteen million new jobs. That's how you bring back jobs, not by clinging to fifty year old traditions, but by investing in new technologies.

I also think it's really quite ironic that Donald never shuts up about fake news and the media, when the media is the reason he got elected, running nothing but stories about recessions, unemployment, disease, crime and almost never pointing out the actual statistics behind those stories, like that crime has been steadily decreasing in most American states since the 1980's. Sure there are still regions where it spikes like Chicago and Detroit, but for the most part crimes are falling. Remember all the coverage the Ebola virus got a few years ago? It was the number one story for months, yet the news that an Ebola vaccine with 100% efficiency rate was announced never made a blip.

Trump took advantage of the fact that the media told everyone 24 hours a day that the world was going to hell in a handbasket, that we're in a declining civilisation while neglecting to point out that literacy rates are now the highest that they have ever been, that deaths from war per capita over the past 20 years are the lowest they have ever been at any point in human history and that people living in extreme poverty (Surviving on less than $1.90 USD per day) is at 10%. 10% sounds like a lot doesn't it? Well in 1990 that figure was 37%, in 1980 it was 44%.

It annoys me when people go on about the good old days, watching rose tinted Hollywood renditions of days gone by and completely disregarding the dark underbelly of a society past, but there is a reason for that. That reason is that data simply isn't sexy. Noone wants to look at a graph and check the statistics when they're watching live footage of a young man crawling out of an overturned car and opening fire at policemen all broadcast in HD, with replay at 11. We're visual creatures and we make our decisions and rationalisations about the world around us based on emotion and memory, rather than collated numbers on a page. Until we change the way we consume information about our society people like Trump will continue to take advantage of the public's addiction to mainstream media.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

As an Australian this is my view on Trump.

His whole song and dance about other companies stealing American jobs is hogwash. American based companies decided decades ago that they would control the development, the branding and the IP. Manufacturing would go to the cheapest bidder, which usually ended up being China and Mexico. Donald proclaims he can use tariffs and taxation to coax these corporations to move manufacturing back to the rust belt, but the sad truth is it's much easier for those companies to wear a 25% tariff (The cost of which will be the increased price paid by the consumer) than move the factory back to the good ole U,S of A, where they'll pay a union worker five to ten times the labour cost and have to worry about safety regulations, overtime and public holidays. That's the cost of world trade, it isn't perfect but it has made the world a much safer place as war has become decidedly less profitable as countries rely much more on each other as trading partners.

The truth is that the massive spike in consumer product innovations including the device you are using to read this on is largely thanks to the massive budgets for R&D that are afforded to companies by low manufacturing costs.

Sure you're going to see companies make a song and dance about moving one plant back Wisconsin or Michigan, but those operations will be padded by heavy automation and that's the way it'll be going for the next couple of decades. The days of a blue collar steel worker supporting a family of five are well and truly over.

Yes American jobs have taken a hit in recent times, but that's the natural struggle that countries have to go through as they adapt to a changing world. The stupid thing is that Trump won't allow his country to embrace the renewable technologies that will actually create new jobs. Instead he's promising them their coal and manufacturing jobs back, that just ain't gonna happen. While this is happening China is spending almost half a trillion on renewable energy in the next four years and in effect creating fifteen million new jobs. That's how you bring back jobs, not by clinging to fifty year old traditions, but by investing in new technologies.

I also think it's really quite ironic that Donald never shuts up about fake news and the media, when the media is the reason he got elected, running nothing but stories about recessions, unemployment, disease, crime and almost never pointing out the actual statistics behind those stories, like that crime has been steadily decreasing in most American states since the 1980's. Sure there are still regions where it spikes like Chicago and Detroit, but for the most part crimes are falling. Remember all the coverage the Ebola virus got a few years ago? It was the number one story for months, yet the news that an Ebola vaccine with 100% efficiency rate was announced never made a blip.

Trump took advantage of the fact that the media told everyone 24 hours a day that the world was going to hell in a handbasket, that we're in a declining civilisation while neglecting to point out that literacy rates are now the highest that they have ever been, that deaths from war per capita over the past 20 years are the lowest they have ever been at any point in human history and that people living in extreme poverty (Surviving on less than $1.90 USD per day) is at 10%. 10% sounds like a lot doesn't it? Well in 1990 that figure was 37%, in 1980 it was 44%.

It annoys me when people go on about the good old days, watching rose tinted Hollywood renditions of days gone by and completely disregarding the dark underbelly of a society past, but there is a reason for that. That reason is that data simply isn't sexy. Noone wants to look at a graph and check the statistics when they're watching live footage of a young man crawling out of an overturned car and opening fire at policemen all broadcast in HD, with replay at 11. We're visual creatures and we make our decisions and rationalisations about the world around us based on emotion and memory, rather than collated numbers on a page. Until we change the way we consume information about our society people like Trump will continue to take advantage of the public's addiction to mainstream media.

I guess it was inevitable that the Misinformation Age would directly follow the Information Age.

"A blessing ignored becomes a curse".

 

[Kane52630]

 

[childeroland]

Was he really tweeting about the Ivanka/Nordstrom thing during an intelligence briefing?

 

[Matt Mortem]

Spoiler

I wonder if he's tired of winning yet...

 

[terry78]

I love how old boy on the right has this look on his face basically saying, "awww snap."

 

[Dr Lee]

Was he really tweeting about the Ivanka/Nordstrom thing during an intelligence briefing?

Apparently the timing of the tweet closely lines up with when he was due to start an intelligence briefing...

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

Sears and Kmart dropped Trump Home products from their websites.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/kmart-and-sears-drop-trump-home-line-of-products-from-websites/

Easy D can't stop winning.

 

[chamber-music]

It annoys me when people go on about the good old days, watching rose tinted Hollywood renditions of days gone by and completely disregarding the dark underbelly of a society past, but there is a reason for that. That reason is that data simply isn't sexy. Noone wants to look at a graph and check the statistics when they're watching live footage of a young man crawling out of an overturned car and opening fire at policemen all broadcast in HD, with replay at 11. We're visual creatures and we make our decisions and rationalisations about the world around us based on emotion and memory, rather than collated numbers on a page. Until we change the way we consume information about our society people like Trump will continue to take advantage of the public's addiction to mainstream media.

I loathe the fantasy nostalgia talk.

Previous success was often built off the backs of others in the form of trade monopolizes, empires, cheap labor, cheaper standards of living, weak work regulations which meant you could exploit your workers, ect.

Nothing ever came for free. People overlook all the bad things and imagine the good times through rose tinted glasses.

 

[chamber-music]

Canadian Citizens of Moroccan are being denied entry as well now for some reason.

Morocco isn't even one of the countries on the banning order list. Seems like some border agency workers in Vermont are just randomly denying entry to any Muslim Canadians.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...-refused-entry-united-states-border-1.3976230

 

[Schlosser85]

I guess I shouldn't hold my breath for General Flynn's treason charges?