Man of Steel Box Office Prediction Thread - - - - Part 13

[ares834]

lol

Wasn't there also someone on this board saying MoS was guaranteed to make 200 OW?

 

[John Lambert]

Not a supporter of anyone. Neither am I a hater of anyone. Just saying it as I see it. Keeping it real.

Regardless of what WB was thinking, two things for sure:

1. They are not fully confident of an MOS 2, after the disappointing reviews from both critics and the GA.

2. They know bringing the Bat in would save the day...

And I agree. I like both Batman and Superman, so, it's a win-win for me. Though, I am a much bigger Superman fan... This would also fast-track JL... they might even put in a few cameos of other super-heroes...

The GA loved MOS. It is only the critics who hated it.

 

[Kryptonian Titan]

The GA loved MOS. It is only the critics who hated it.

No. Part of the GA liked it, which is very different. A movie which's ''loved'' by the GA doesn't have such horrible legs.

 

[The Question]

For the most part, the GA's most positive reaction to Man of Steel was "Eh, that was okay I guess."

 

[Marvin]

No. Part of the GA liked it, which is very different. A movie which's ''loved'' by the GA doesn't have such horrible legs.

The legs seem fine to me(takes a minute to look at mos' placing on the yearly chart).

Not many big films face the competition MoS did including having the majority of it's screens(imax included) taken away in such a manner. I really don't care for the comparisons but if you take a good look at the films that fell into IM1's post release run, then compare that with what fell up on MOS' post release, might shed some light on this leg's issue.

 

[Excel]

July 24th needs to belong to Superman vs. Batman.

 

[Excel]

Makes sense.

The Tomb raider effect... where the first movie is a commercial success, but it is front-loaded, does not have legs. (It got that name because of Jolie's two Tomb Raider movies, the second one failed at Box office. The term is used by Analysts and accountants. )

Then the Sequel is released after some years, it is actually a better movie then the first one but it earns less then the first movie, it barely breaks even, the reason being that many people who saw the first movie were either -

* Not impressed, or
* were divided, or
* Remain indifferent.

If MOS 2 were to under-perform due to "Tomb raider Effect" then its bye bye DC movies (As by then Batman would still be waiting to be introduced)

WTF is the "Tomb Raider" effect? TONS of sequels drop from the original...Man of Steels box office legs were fine given context (not great not bad).

Please quit the horrible comparisons.

 

[Liam_H]

Here's the thing about competition. It definitely causes you to lose screens but if the movie was in that much demand, theaters that are capable will still keep it playing for as long as they see it as necessary. WOM isn't so agreat that the majority of people are saying you go out and see it, alternative are just as appealing.

It losing IMAX is no big deal, it had four straight weeks with it. Its not like watching the movie in IMAX is the only way to enjoy it.

 

[Marvin]

Here's the thing about competition. It definitely causes you to lose screens but if the movie was in that much demand, theaters that are capable will still keep it playing for as long as they see it as necessary. WOM isn't so agreat that the majority of people are saying you go out and see it, alternative are just as appealing.

It losing IMAX is no big deal, it had four straight weeks with it. Its not like watching the movie in IMAX is the only way to enjoy it.

You are right, but now apply your theory to a film that isn't Avengers but rather IM1 level good.

 

[ConnorKon-El]

For the most part, the GA's most positive reaction to Man of Steel was "Eh, that was okay I guess."

I...just....
...
I can't agree with this perception.
That's not what I've read or seen in regards to it's feedback from general audiences.

 

[ConnorKon-El]

July 24th needs to belong to Superman vs. Batman.

Is that slot still open ?

 

[FlawlessVictory]

I...just....
...
I can't agree with this perception.
That's not what I've read or seen in regards to it's feedback from general audiences.

I don't understand how people can come up with stuff like that? Do they go to numerous theaters conducting exit polls? Is it just an outward projection of how one feels about the movie? I know it can't be because of gauging reaction from this site because this is a fan website not general audience.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

For the most part, the GA's most positive reaction to Man of Steel was "Eh, that was okay I guess."

Nope. The movie's reception by the GA has been good but not great.

 

[Liam_H]

You are right, but now apply your theory to a film that isn't Avengers but rather IM1 level good.

MoS definitely faced more competition but do I think it has been well received as the first IM? No.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

MoS definitely faced more competition but do I think it has been well received as the first IM? No.

I would say it was as well received as IM3.

 

[ConnorKon-El]

I don't understand how people can come up with stuff like that? Do they go to numerous theaters conducting exit polls? Is it just an outward projection of how one feels about the movie? I know it can't be because of gauging reaction from this site because this is a fan website not general audience.

I hate being "that" guy who posts numbers but here we go
It has a 77% user rated approval on IMDB and RT
It has a 7.9 rating on Metacritic.
Now, you can't fully judge the general public's view towards a film solely on three movie rating sites. BUT, it's a good gage that expresses how a movie is most likely felt by the general public.

Was MOS absolutely, unanimously loved by the public ? No
But I don't think it was mixed either. They thought it was good but not amazing.
I think the majority of the public favorably "liked" the film. Not as much as they liked IM of Batman Begins though. And I don't think MOS is personally as good as BB or IM if we are being honest

 

[blumatic]

I would say it was as well received as IM3.

I agree. I'm kind of glad. I just don't understand how IM3 is so well received by RT.

Maybe because it was funny. It was funny but jokes is all it had. I thought it was a really bad story. But the humor really covered it's flaws.

If MOS had DP Clark Kent it would have a better rating. I think people really love Clark. And it gives balance to the Superman character.

 

[The Question]

Nope. The movie's reception by the GA has been good but not great.

Isn't that what I said?

 

[FlawlessVictory]

I hate being "that" guy who posts numbers but here we go
It has a 77% user rated approval on IMDB and RT
It has a 7.9 rating on Metacritic.
Now, you can't fully judge the general public's view towards a film solely on three movie rating sites. BUT, it's a good gage that expresses how a movie is most likely felt by the general public.

Was MOS absolutely, unanimously loved by the public ? No
But I don't think it was mixed either. They thought it was good but not amazing.
I think the majority of the public favorably "liked" the film. Not as much as they liked IM of Batman Begins though. And I don't think MOS is personally as good as BB or IM if we are being honest

Yup. I've noticed those numbers myself and my reaction to them was that movie has has had a good reaction, not great not just ok but good.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Isn't that what I said?

Saying a movie is good or "eh that was okay I guess" are two different things, to me at least.

 

[ConnorKon-El]

My biggest issue with IM3 was tonally, it never found its place. It tried to have serious moments with Tony and his struggles and they were cut short and undermined by all the jokes and humor. I was disappointed because the trailer made it seem like a darker film than the first two, which I was excited for.
Really the mandarian twist didn't bother me, though I wish it had been executed more on a serious note, rather than a cheap gag.

I know I'm getting off tandem

Anyway to each their own. If you think the public didn't really enjoy the film that much, that's absolutely fine. I just disagree.

 

[ConnorKon-El]

Saying a movie is good or "eh that was okay I guess" are two different things, to me at least.

Same here.

 

[blumatic]

I hate being "that" guy who posts numbers but here we go
It has a 77% user rated approval on IMDB and RT
It has a 7.9 rating on Metacritic.
Now, you can't fully judge the general public's view towards a film solely on three movie rating sites. BUT, it's a good gage that expresses how a movie is most likely felt by the general public.

Was MOS absolutely, unanimously loved by the public ? No
But I don't think it was mixed either. They thought it was good but not amazing.
I think the majority of the public favorably "liked" the film. Not as much as they liked IM of Batman Begins though. And I don't think MOS is personally as good as BB or IM if we are being honest

To be honest with you. It was not as good as BB or IM. I feel MOS may have been too ambitious. Superman has a very detailed origin story. To squeeze that in and give sequel worthy action scenes may have did them in a little.

But there were a lot of good things which they detailed that earlier Superman films did do, but the pacing made those scenes fly by. But I was able to find connection with the scenes even if they moved quickly.

 

[Jegan]

This is all based on individual taste.

For me Man of Steel was not only my favorite movie this year, it is my fav superhero movie of all time.
1. Man of Steel
2. The Dark Knight
3. Iron Man 1
4. Xmen first class
5. Thor

Now if you are looking at how Man of Steel did financially.
WW it has done better then all the marvel movies except avengers ,Iron man III, and all the spideys (old and new)
It has done better then all the DC movies except The Dark Knight and Dark knight rises.

7.7 on IMDB is comparable to most "good" movies.

At the end of the day it may not be the greatest superhero movie of all time to most, but it is to me, and frankly that is all that matters. The only thing I was worried about is would it do well enough to get a sequel... and the answer to that clearly is a yes

 

[blumatic]

My biggest issue with IM3 was tonally, it never found its place. It tried to have serious moments with Tony and his struggles and they were cut short and undermined by all the jokes and humor. I was disappointed because the trailer made it seem like a darker film than the first two, which I was excited for.
Really the mandarian twist didn't bother me, though I wish it had been executed more on a serious note, rather than a cheap gag.

I know I'm getting off tandem

Anyway to each their own. If you think the public didn't really enjoy the film that much, that's absolutely fine. I just disagree.

That was my issue as well with Tony Stark. And they gave the kid way too much screen time. I feel that if the Mandarin was real he would have taken more time from the kid because they would want to show his motivation. But they spent the whole film hiding the villain for the twist.