Man of Steel Box Office Prediction Thread - - - - - Part 14

[DieSmiling]

Thor 1 did 2/3 or MoS's numbers right from scratch all on it's own. I have little doubt Thor2 will beat MoS's numbers.

Neither would surprise me. You're 100 right that Thor: TDW is the best test of "the Avengers boost."

IM3 clearly got a boost, but IM was already the star of the MCU and the highlight of the Avengers for most.

I don't think Thor: TDW will come close to MoS domestically but WW it could definitely beat it... MoS will top out around $650mm, I could see Thor doing $700mm, maybe even $750mm... Floor is probably $550mm.

I want to see more marketing from Thor though. So far the buzz is pretty minimal.

 

[CharlieS]

They should base the sequels on the Dark Knight Strikes Again, on the Dark Knight Return, on Superman/Batman public enemies and on Brainiac story arc Superman: Brainiac. Like in those comics they can introduce members of the justice league. TDKR had introduce the Green Arrow. TDKSA had introduce Flash, Wonder Woman, the Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, and many other. They could team up to defeat the alliance of Lex Luthor and Brainiac. Lex luthor have worked hand in hand with aliens invaders in the past, as seen in Superman 2.

 

[ModernClarkKent]

Strange, I can't seem to find any numbers for Friday posted online yet, haha maybe no one went?

 

[John-An]

I was going with The Wolverine but the 3rd act sucked me out of the movie like a tractor beat, it's TERRIBLE.

What is it about superhero movie 3rd acts?
I was disappointed with the 3rd acts of;
ASM
BB
IM
MoS

The reason I list the above is because I was absolutely loving the first two acts and then 3rd act whilst not killing the movie for me (because of the first two acts) definitely made me take off a few points for the ending. Interesting that those 4 movies are origin movies.

You can't compare the ASM with bb and even MOS their thir acts are way more superior... TASM third act was the weakest in cmbs.. so simple... MOS CAN be compared with TDK TDKR AVENGERS X-MEN FIRST CLASS... I only agree with IM´s but MOS had a great third act... best I´ve ever seen...
again... I have to see TW but my review for MOS is 9

 

[Ms. Marvel]

It won't.. unless it's an 'action comedy' which the GA just love.. like IM3...

I think the 'Avengers boost' is more myth than anything.. people like Ironman/Robert Downey...

Actually GA response to IM3 wasn't that great. It was good but not spectacular. The jump from IM2 to IM3 in the BO is obviously due to what came in between. Both movies had RDJ. Also, IM made $130 million more than Thor not $500 million. So it's not like Thor/Loki aren't popular characters themselves.

Plus it's Marvel, so Thor 2 is most likely going to have action and comedy.

 

[John-An]

I was going with The Wolverine but the 3rd act sucked me out of the movie like a tractor beat, it's TERRIBLE.

What is it about superhero movie 3rd acts?
I was disappointed with the 3rd acts of;
ASM
BB
IM
MoS

The reason I list the above is because I was absolutely loving the first two acts and then 3rd act whilst not killing the movie for me (because of the first two acts) definitely made me take off a few points for the ending. Interesting that those 4 movies are origin movies.

I respect your opinion... but you can't compare the ASM with bb and even MOS their thir acts are way more superior... TASM third act was the weakest in cmbs.. so simple... MOS CAN be compared with TDK TDKR AVENGERS X-MEN FIRST CLASS... I only agree with IM´s but MOS had a great third act... best I´ve ever seen...
again... I have to see TW but my review for MOS is 9

 

[robot]

Actually GA response to IM3 wasn't that great. It was good but not spectacular. The jump from IM2 to IM3 in the BO is obviously due to what came in between. Both movies had RDJ. Also, IM made $130 million more than Thor not $500 million. So it's not like Thor/Loki aren't popular characters themselves.

Plus it's Marvel, so Thor 2 is most likely going to have action and comedy.

I have a different experience with my group of friends... we first didn't want to watch it, because 'oh heck, another ironman'... but after the movie came out, it turned out to be vastly differently from the other 2 ironman's... they basically turned it into a 'comedy'.. the entire movie is laught out loud fun.. same as fast 6, both turned into 'comedies' really... It's not just RDJ, but a FUNNY movie with RDJ in it...

And it was fun.. i have to admit... and then suddenly the buzz was there.. all those that didn't want to watch it heard good things.. and they ended up going..

I am just saying that Avengers didn't do that much for the movie as people think.. you'll see when Thor comes around.. it won't get anywhere close to the kind of bump that IM3 got...

on the other hand, a LOT (and that's an understatement) of ppl were waiting for MOS to come out.. and a lot did watch it, but then the negative WOM started.. and the movie tanked 2nd week out...

 

[manofsteel4life]

To my surprise there was about 15 people in my last and final showing of MOS....:.....I thought when I turned the corner I would be the only one in there.....anybody else having similar crowds?...or is everyone pretty much done and waiting for the DVD?....the crowd laughed at the right parts and they didn't clapp at the end but i think it was still pretty positive

 

[spider-neil]

You can't compare the ASM with bb and even MOS their thir acts are way more superior... TASM third act was the weakest in cmbs.. so simple... MOS CAN be compared with TDK TDKR AVENGERS X-MEN FIRST CLASS... I only agree with IM´s but MOS had a great third act... best I´ve ever seen...
again... I have to see TW but my review for MOS is 9

I can and I will compare the 3rd act of ASM, BB and MoS because I was no where near as engaged with these movies in the final act as I was when they were discovering their powers.

 

[robot]

Looks like Man Of Steel would be at best rank 6th this year:

IM3
Fast 6
Despicable Me
The Hobbit
Catching Fire

will do better... who would have thought??

 

[robot]

Interesting Trend:

These are the total number of movies crossing the 1 Billion Dollar Mark:

2009 - one 1 (avatar)
2010 - two
2011 - three
2012 - four

Looks like in going forward 1B dollar movies would be a dime a dozen...

 

[kedrell]

Only 1 other film this year has a decent shot at $1B WW and that's Hobbit2.

 

[sf2]

Looks like Man Of Steel would be at best rank 6th this year:

IM3
Fast 6
Despicable Me
The Hobbit
Catching Fire

will do better... who would have thought??

How much fast6 did?

 

[robot]

how much fast6 did?

712m

 

[sf2]

Thanks.

We thought MOS could do it 3 weeks ago.

 

[Smashlilman]

Neither would surprise me. You're 100 right that Thor: TDW is the best test of "the Avengers boost."

IM3 clearly got a boost, but IM was already the star of the MCU and the highlight of the Avengers for most.

I don't think Thor: TDW will come close to MoS domestically but WW it could definitely beat it... MoS will top out around $650mm, I could see Thor doing $700mm, maybe even $750mm... Floor is probably $550mm.

I want to see more marketing from Thor though. So far the buzz is pretty minimal.

I don't agree with you. It's a Sequel and he was featured in the Avengers. To the GA it will come off as the Third movie in a series. Disney's Marketing team will have a field day that with that. To me i think it could cross the billion Mark but might max out at around $900mm.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

I have a different experience with my group of friends... we first didn't want to watch it, because 'oh heck, another ironman'... but after the movie came out, it turned out to be vastly differently from the other 2 ironman's... they basically turned it into a 'comedy'.. the entire movie is laught out loud fun.. same as fast 6, both turned into 'comedies' really... It's not just RDJ, but a FUNNY movie with RDJ in it...

And it was fun.. i have to admit... and then suddenly the buzz was there.. all those that didn't want to watch it heard good things.. and they ended up going..

I am just saying that Avengers didn't do that much for the movie as people think.. you'll see when Thor comes around.. it won't get anywhere close to the kind of bump that IM3 got...

on the other hand, a LOT (and that's an understatement) of ppl were waiting for MOS to come out.. and a lot did watch it, but then the negative WOM started.. and the movie tanked 2nd week out...

Not a lot of people I know like IM3. I have heard people call it s*** quite a lot. I strongly believe The Avengers is the main reason it made double what IM2 made. Without TA, I don't think IM3 would have made more than $800 million.

Thor isn't going to get that kind of bump but it isn't unbelievable that it may gross more than MOS.

I don't agree with you. It's a Sequel and he was featured in the Avengers. To the GA it will come off as the Third movie in a series. Disney's Marketing team will have a field day that with that. To me i think it could cross the billion Mark but might max out at around $900mm.

That would make my year.

 

[John-An]

I can and I will compare the 3rd act of ASM, BB and MoS because I was no where near as engaged with these movies in the final act as I was when they were discovering their powers.

Well for you maybe I respect that... but ASM has the third act simple and imo THE SIMPLIEST OF ALL THE CMB...not engaged.. but BB and especially MOS had a great third act.... but I guess we have different opinions

 

[robot]

Not a lot of people I know like IM3. I have heard people call it s*** quite a lot. I strongly believe The Avengers is the main reason it made double what IM2 made. Without TA, I don't think IM3 would have made more than $800 million.

Thor isn't going to get that kind of bump but it isn't unbelievable that it may gross more than MOS.



That would make my year.

Maybe not people you know... but you don't make 1.2 Billion Dollars and becomes the 4th or 5th highest grossing movie of all time if the GA didn't just loved it... No movie could...

Aside from what 'your friends like' or 'what my friends like', I generally just look at the numbers.. and numbers/stats don't lie.. We all have our own 'prejudices'.. maybe if you don't like it, you tend to hear others who don't like it, and if you liked it, you only tend to hear those that liked it.. We're all humans, and that's what happens... that's why science does not rely on 'personal testimonials'... it relies on cold hard facts.. and the fact is, people liked IM3 and liked it a LOT..

And I am sure Avengers have something to do with it but not most of it.. I do believe it stood on it's own pretty well..

 

[robot]

Thanks.

We thought MOS could do it 3 weeks ago.

Yeah, sad.. being a superman fan, I think we're blinded... MOS just didn't have the legs we wanted it to... the movie, as good as it is to some of us, just didn't resonate with a lot of the GA... (some fans are still in denial.. heh)

 

[John-An]

Yeah, sad.. being a superman fan, I think we're blinded... MOS just didn't have the legs we wanted it to... the movie, as good as it is to some of us, just didn't resonate with a lot of the GA... (some fans are still in denial.. heh)

for a reboot... the box office is great..... hope the sequel makes it better... but I disagree in terms on quality.... the movie is a piece of art

 

[tomoe]

Yeah, sad.. being a superman fan, I think we're blinded... MOS just didn't have the legs we wanted it to... the movie, as good as it is to some of us, just didn't resonate with a lot of the GA... (some fans are still in denial.. heh)

Yes. I'm actually inclined to think WOM sucked for mos after seeing it crash week after week. People want to blame competition but WWZ has had the same competition yet it has held on relatively well. SR even had better legs. Just about every other movie this summer has had better legs. Yes its overall box office is fine but it depressing to see predictions on its final tally keep going down because the drops have been bigger than expected.

 

[Jim-El]

After I saw MOS the first time, I had no real desire to see it again. To sum it up, the movie was just blah...This was disappointing considering I had followed the movie's production for 2 years. So, WOM for this movie was quite bad. Just look at the numbers if you disagree. This could have been a 375 million dollar domestic movie at the very least if the writing and direction were there. This doesn't bode well for the supposed Superman/Batman movie in 2015.

 

[John-An]

After I saw MOS the first time, I had no real desire to see it again. To sum it up, the movie was just blah...This was disappointing considering I had followed the movie's production for 2 years. So, WOM for this movie was quite bad. Just look at the numbers if you disagree. This could have been a 375 million dollar domestic movie at the very least if the writing and direction were there. This doesn't bode well for the supposed Superman/Batman movie in 2015.

I feel totally the opposite... each time I see the movie... new and good feelings I have... the writing and the direct was there... and WF way is looking good excellent movie... and I followed 2 years production also... I see you are a big Donner fan.. If you didn't let that movie go.. you can't enjoy this movie... the past is past... MOS IS the GREAT PRESENT

 

[Mysteryman]

Yeah, but in the case of the Donner Films the past led to The Great Present that is MOS.