Man of Steel Box Office Prediction Thread - - - - - Part 14

[John-An]

Let me ask you this..If you take IM and RDJ out of the Avengers, and add in say antman or quicksilver in his place, with someone relatively unknown in the role, would Avengers still have made what it did?? even close?
Lots went to see it Because he was in it. sure it would have still made good money without him, but I dont think you would have seen a billion.

That´s a great argument.... Agreed...

 

[king666]

Let me ask you this..If you take IM and RDJ out of the Avengers, and add in say antman or quicksilver in his place, with someone relatively unknown in the role, would Avengers still have made what it did?? even close?
Lots went to see it Because he was in it. sure it would have still made good money without him, but I dont think you would have seen a billion.

Yep.

 

[BH/HHH]

Agreed too

 

[Ms. Marvel]

And I already said I agree with you on the 'liked' and 'loved'... No, ppl didn't LOVED IM3, but they liked it enough to go watch it several times and also to tell their friends...

The idea that all of it's success is due to TA alone is preposterous...

If that's your logic, then let's see if Thor 2 will get to 1.2 B.. (remember, you said ppl wanted to know what happened next after TA to the other super-heroes)

Also, IM3 have nothing to do with 'TA'.. it was a standalone movie pretty much.. and if all people wanted to see was a continuation of TA, then within the first few days of release, the word woudl have gone out, and others woudl have skipped it altogether..

IM is more popular than Thor so that's not going to happen. But Thor is still going to get a big boost, especially with Loki in it.

Not ALL its success. I said without TA effect I think it would have gotten around $800 million. So a lot of it's success IMO is due to TA.

No, because the anticipation was already high. It became WOM proof.

 

[JangoNate]

"Now that we're done having a dick measuring contest..."

 

[robot]

IM is more popular than Thor so that's not going to happen. But Thor is still going to get a big boost, especially with Loki in it.

Not ALL its success. I said without TA effect I think it would have gotten around $800 million. So a lot of it's success IMO is due to TA.

No, because the anticipation was already high. It became WOM proof.

Nothing is WOM proof... anticipation/hype only gets you so far... MOS is a great example...

I don't think people understand what 1.2B means...

Anyways, I am tired of this argument.. so, I'll agree to disagree with you on this one... and Thor will prove me right.. (you'll likely be spinning that story soon).

 

[dalonewolf]

thor 2 should land in between 700-900 im only saying that becuse the 1st thor did 449 ww without 3d
the avengers boost and 3-d boost mite just bring it to a billion but ima say 700-900
dont want egg on my face again becuse mos should have done no less than 800mil but hopefully WB will re-release it I really think the GA didnt loose interest in mos I really think it was the lost of screens and thor 2 want have that problem with competition as mos did just 3 major movies at the end of the year the hobbit 2 hg 2 and thor 2 so all 3 of those movies shoulf come close to a billion or get there

wait a minute why didnt WB release mos in the fall or winter it would have been perfect for a reboot and would have added better legs for the movie
WB missed its chance at 400mil dom and they could have released mos2/wf june 2015

 

[robot]

thor 2 should land in between 700-900 im only saying that becuse the 1st thor did 449 ww without 3d
the avengers boost and 3-d boost mite just bring it to a billion but ima say 700-900
dont want egg on my face again becuse mos should have done no less than 800mil but hopefully WB will re-release it I really think the GA didnt loose interest in mos I really think it was the lost of screens and thor 2 want have that problem with competition as mos did just 3 major movies at the end of the year the hobbit 2 hg 2 and thor 2 so all 3 of those movies shoulf come close to a billion or get there

wait a minute why didnt WB release mos in the fall or winter it would have been perfect for a reboot and would have added better legs for the movie
WB missed its chance at 400mil dom and they could have released mos2/wf june 2015

Losing screens definitely plays a role (especially in theaters that have only a few screens to begin with).. but one of the reaons it's losing so much screens so fast is because the screens are not filling up... Cinema owners will always put movies that make more money / screen. There's only 1 screen left in my entire city of 4 Million, and when I went to watch it, it wasn't even 30% filled up...

Movies that does well per screen, will not lose their screens. MOS definitely didn't have the WOM/legs...

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Nothing is WOM proof... anticipation/hype only gets you so far... MOS is a great example...

I don't think people understand what 1.2B means...

Anyways, I am tired of this argument.. so, I'll agree to disagree with you on this one... and Thor will prove me right.. (you'll likely be spinning that story soon).

How? Nobody here is saying that Thor will make $1 billion.

 

[tomoe]

Losing screens definitely plays a role (especially in theaters that have only a few screens to begin with).. but one of the reaons it's losing so much screens so fast is because the screens are not filling up... Cinema owners will always put movies that make more money / screen. There's only 1 screen left in my entire city of 4 Million, and when I went to watch it, it wasn't even 30% filled up...

Movies that does well per screen, will not lose their screens. MOS definitely didn't have the WOM/legs...

Yes. At this point I'm not even sure WOM was "good not great" as many like to say. If it was I would think it would have had average drops like WWZ rather than grossly above average crashes.

 

[dalonewolf]

Yes. At this point I'm not even sure WOM was "good not great" as many like to say. If it was I would think it would have had average drops like WWZ rather than grossly above average crashes.

the bad RT score but it had a good audience rating 71% if u take one of those major releases wwz or mu and move it a week later mos would have had a better drop
lets just face it WB timing was bad when they found out about all the new releases 8 within 30 days of mos release they should have pushed it back or moved it up it took me a while to realize it but Mid july or early august would have been better or 6/7 or 6/1 would have gotten it closer to a billion than the 6/14 release
the competition cut into mos numbers
but with all the competition im still proud that this movie made over 600mill after SR bad wom
and I also say Batman should have made an appearance in mos rather it was as batman or bruce wayne
either of the two would have added another 100 mil to the total rite now

 

[ModernClarkKent]

Total Lifetime Grosses -

Domestic: $286,807,505 44.5% + Foreign: $357,050,000 55.5% = Worldwide: $643,857,505

 

[John-An]

MOS BOX OFFICE UPDATE:
Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $286,807,505 44.5% + Foreign: $357,050,000 55.5% = Worldwide: $643,857,505
source: http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=superman2012.htm

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

So how unlikely is $300 million domestically?

 

[JOE]

Ouch... Doesn't look like 300/400 is going to happen anymore...

 

[John-An]

Ouch... Doesn't look like 300/400 is going to happen anymore...

I see more to happen 400 ww and 700 million all gross.... Japan maybe will do it...

 

[Tra-El]

Ouch... Doesn't look like 300/400 is going to happen anymore...

Wasn't that already known about, 50 pages back? Haha. When it's all said and done, it should get pretty damn close to those numbers but fall a little short. All in all, MOS did good at the BO, especially for a reboot and we should be celebrating what the studio is going to establish for Supes moving forward.

MOS is also down to like, 500 theaters. This summer proved to be one big stiff competition for contenders. Even with the 64% drop in week 2, getting close to $300 million domestically should still be considered great success.

 

[Liam_H]

So how unlikely is $300 million domestically?

It was dead last week.

 

[dalonewolf]

It was dead last week.

a re-release should do it wouldn't u agree?

 

[ModernClarkKent]

I'd be interested to know what the cost of a re-release is vs how much a studio actually makes. Anyone? Obviously it can in theory be great for a studio, but what does it actually cost up front to just to do it apart from marketing expenses.

 

[JKKS085]

O rly? Any metric huh?

Metacritic audience ratings:

MOS - 7.9 (1744 ratings)
IM3 - 6.5 (1207 ratings)

You were saying?

That's hilarious. 1200 votes accounted for a movie that sold more than 120M tickets wordwide. How can anyone take this seriously and use these numbers to make a point ? That's like 0,001% of IM3's audience for crying out loud.

You could have got people's attention if you used imdb's users ratings (wich are only in the hundred thousands but still better than nothing). But seriously a thousand voters ? You can't be serious.

 

[Marvin]

Percentages of audience are even more funny when you consider how small the professional critical circle and it's consensus is in the grand scheme of things.

 

[JKKS085]

I'd be interested to know what the cost of a re-release is vs how much a studio actually makes. Anyone? Obviously it can in theory be great for a studio, but what does it actually cost up front to just to do it apart from marketing expenses.

With printing costs close to none it really depends on how much they decide to promote the re-release. Usually they do not spend a lot on advertising since they don't get THAT much from a re-release this close to the original release date. If memory serves TDK got something around 4/5 millions from it's january re-expanding in 2009 (and Avengers got something in that range too last year) and there's little to no chance for MoS to get even close to that number.

That wouldn't be a smart move given the film's tracking records, they will have to sacrifice their cut on the grosses just to convince theater owners to give it more screens.

Not worth it if you ask me.

 

[dalonewolf]

I'd be interested to know what the cost of a re-release is vs how much a studio actually makes. Anyone? Obviously it can in theory be great for a studio, but what does it actually cost up front to just to do it apart from marketing expenses.

I dont really know but I do believe in my heart that its not a bad ideal and wouldn't hurt wb by doing so at the least gain 1,000-1,500 screens back if possible by the way
we gotta understand that mos had a short 3-d time becuse of all of the releases and form what im hearing 3-d showings was always 70-75% full
as much as I love the movie I just dont like 3d and everyone says the 3d experience is 10xs better than the 2d my cousin stop going because of the lost of 3d screens in our area palace 12 and palace 20 the palace 12 was no more mos 3d after one week and the 20 3 weeks

 

[dalonewolf]

but if a re-release will cost to much would somebody let me know so I can stop screaming for it