Man of Steel Box Office Prediction Thread - - - - - Part 14

[Tobias]

WB predicted modestly. Deep down, they were all hoping it'd be the next TDK and hit 1B. Still a success, regardless of who says it isn't. Numbers don't lie. It's also evident their lack of confidence in the sequel since they're bringing in the subs already. Batman is their bait to get more people in the theatres.

Isn't that a contradiction? MOS a success and yet WB does not have confidence in a sequel?

 

[JOE]

Isn't that a contradiction? MOS a success and yet WB does not have confidence in a sequel?

They don't have the confidence it'll be a top dog like IM3, Avengers or TDK as far as box office goes.

That's why they're bringing in the reinforcements.

 

[dalonewolf]

They don't have the confidence it'll be a top dog like IM3, Avengers or TDK as far as box office goes.

That's why they're bringing in the reinforcements.[

you all can say what u want to say or think
but Batman has been in the plans form the start
you have to realize WB wants JL
a.s.a.p
and the fastest route to it is a batman/superman team up
like i said before i think WB is going for the big 3 JL sm bm ww
and then do a solo GL/Flash to follow or ww
the JL sequel will have the 6 this will be a smart move if u ask me
and u really think WB waa gonna let BM sit around for years before getting him back into movies
i think th3 JL movies will.be batmans reboot

 

[STARMAN]

It made 111,836 on Monday. Not bad.

 

[dalonewolf]

It made 111,836 on Monday. Not bad.

thats really not
do u think the dollar shows are doing that good

 

[Kryptonian Titan]

They don't have the confidence it'll be a top dog like IM3, Avengers or TDK as far as box office goes.

That's why they're bringing in the reinforcements.

Agreed. But also they could fear the sequel would make lower numbers.

 

[Jim-El]

The only way I go to see the Supes/Batty sequel is if Bale comes back and we all know he will not be. I would have looked forward to a MOS sequel, but it aint happening. I don't want Superman to ever share the screen with another hero. JMHO

 

[John Lambert]

The only way I go to see the Supes/Batty sequel is if Bale comes back and we all know he will not be. I would have looked forward to a MOS sequel, but it aint happening. I don't want Superman to ever share the screen with another hero. JMHO

Yet, from the start they have talked about going to Justice League, so that means Superman sharing the screen.

I would probably prefer no Batman in the sequel, but I can live with him there.

 

[sf2]

Yet, from the start they have talked about going to Justice League, so that means Superman sharing the screen.

I would probably prefer no Batman in the sequel, but I can live with him there.

If I remember correctly, from the start they said MOS stand alone and didn't share universe with other heroes. They said especially batman universe was difficult to blend into superman.

 

[sf2]

The only way I go to see the Supes/Batty sequel is if Bale comes back and we all know he will not be. I would have looked forward to a MOS sequel, but it aint happening. I don't want Superman to ever share the screen with another hero. JMHO

My thought too. Except for Bale. Dont think he is a great batman.

 

[kalelvis]

People can debate all day about why WB is doing what they are doing, but the fact is that none of us know. I think it is a bit early to call the coroner to report the death of future Superman solo movies. It is clear that JL is WB's end goal but including Batman in MoS does not mean that a MoS solo movie won't follow in the year or two after that.

If they are bringing Batman into MoS to avoid all the *****ing they would hear about "another origin" movie then good for them, just make sure the is the appropriate character development for Superman and as far as I am concerned, it is all good.

While part of me feels that maybe this is happening too fast, at the same time I am excited because it has been one of the cardinal rules of DC to get any new versions of Superman and Batman together as soon as they can because in the comics the character development everybody seems so worried about is dependent on the characters coming together and becoming the yin yang that holds the DCU together.

So, as it is with every movie regardless of our expectations we will all have to wait and see.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

I was hoping for about $130,000 for Tuesday and MOS came in at $129,000 and change, nice! Should break $290,000,000 early next week.

 

[ModernClarkKent]

WB taking forever to give updated foreign -- unless it's out of all foreign markets ?

 

[JOE]

They don't have the confidence it'll be a top dog like IM3, Avengers or TDK as far as box office goes.

That's why they're bringing in the reinforcements.[

you all can say what u want to say or think
but Batman has been in the plans form the start
you have to realize WB wants JL
a.s.a.p
and the fastest route to it is a batman/superman team up
like i said before i think WB is going for the big 3 JL sm bm ww
and then do a solo GL/Flash to follow or ww
the JL sequel will have the 6 this will be a smart move if u ask me
and u really think WB waa gonna let BM sit around for years before getting him back into movies
i think th3 JL movies will.be batmans reboot

I disagree. Batman just finished his trilogy. A great one I might add. There's no need to reboot this soon to the character other than to compensate for their Man of Steel that the critics didn't exactly all fall in love with. Batman on the other hand does well with the critics. They want to milk the Batman name as long as they can before he loses popularity to all these other rising superheroes.

 

[roach]

I don't think Batman needs a reboot trilogy. However Batman is as important to the DC Universe as is Superman. If you are building a cinematic universe Batman has to be a part of that. I don't see it as Batman the crutch and more like Batman the other foundation of this universe.

 

[dalonewolf]

I was hoping for about $130,000 for Tuesday and MOS came in at $129,000 and change, nice! Should break $290,000,000 early next week.

solid numbers these last couple of days it seems like proof if mos gets its screens back it will make more money
I say re-release see how it does mite even get the 300 dom I was hoping for

 

[STARMAN]

It'll surpass 290. Considering, how bad some movies did this summer I'm mostly happy. Being greedy, I always want more. But 300 isn't happening. That died a long time ago.

 

[JOE]

I don't think Batman needs a reboot trilogy. However Batman is as important to the DC Universe as is Superman. If you are building a cinematic universe Batman has to be a part of that. I don't see it as Batman the crutch and more like Batman the other foundation of this universe.

Valid point, yet I still think they're using him as bait. Superman isn't the billion dollar franchise that Batman is. MOS 2 doing anything short of 1B isn't acceptable if they even want a small chance at competing with The Avengers: Age of Ultron which will likely cross that 1B mark for the second consecutive time.

 

[dalonewolf]

It'll surpass 290. Considering, how bad some movies did this summer I'm mostly happy. Being greedy, I always want more. But 300 isn't happening. That died a long time ago.

all im saying is with 304 screens it made 50k and with only 104 more screens it made 216k I say with 800 screens it can get to the 800- 1mil range and on monday up 37k form last Monday at 800 screens it could've pulled in double that or the possibility of more
let's not forget it only has to make 10 mil I think a re-release could pull in a fast 5mil and a crawl for the last 5mil

 

[kalelvis]

all im saying is with 304 screens it made 50k and with only 104 more screens it made 216k I say with 800 screens it can get to the 800- 1mil range and on monday up 37k form last Monday at 800 screens it could've pulled in double that or the possibility of more
let's not forget it only has to make 10 mil I think a re-release could pull in a fast 5mil and a crawl for the last 5mil

Being at the dollar movie it is filling more seats than it did at first run prices. It is kind of the Walmart business model, set the price low and make the profit on volume instead of selling a few at a premium price. In some markets it is still in first run, or not showing at all. As it filters into more dollar movies it should help it maintain a pretty steady box office. Of course this all depends on there being enough of the GA who didn't see it in first run and is waiting to catch it in second run and the people who want to see it again.

 

[Shikamaru]

WB admitted they consider MOS to be a bit of a dissapointment because it didn't make TDK/TDKR money. As in make at least $1 billion. Anyone who has a bit of common sense and some basic knowledge on how the industry works knows 100% there is no freakin' way MOS could have done much money. Much like every other CBM reboot, it carried the burden of being a reboot and being the first film after a bad film with the same character. All reboots had that because the new franchise first has to earn the trust of the audience. Batman Begins did not make $1 billion either. It is always the second film in a rebooted franchise that proves whether or not the first film and the reboot overall was a success and a good idea in the first place.

On top of carrying the reboot burden, MOS practically had zero marketing up until April 2013 (excluding the first two trailers), whereas TDK had a lot of viral marketing since very early on. It also only had about one or two free weeks before other big summer blockbusters came along and had to compete with it.

When you consider all that, the amount MOS made is completely realistic and if anything, it proves that Superman has potential on the big screen with today's audience.

The expectations WB had for MOS were absolutely ridiculous given the factors. They set such a high bar that even Batman wouldn't have reached had he been in the same shoes that Superman was in MOS, or would have at least had a bit of trouble reaching. They gave Superman a small toothbrush and asked him to clean the entire mansion with it in a limited amount of time. Then when Superman wasn't able to do it, they were confused as to why he didn't succeed (not the best analogy, but you get the point).

WB's ridiculous box office expectations for MOS leads me to believe that they don't even know how to run a film studio. Not a DC film studio, but just a film studio in general.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

all im saying is with 304 screens it made 50k and with only 104 more screens it made 216k I say with 800 screens it can get to the 800- 1mil range and on monday up 37k form last Monday at 800 screens it could've pulled in double that or the possibility of more
let's not forget it only has to make 10 mil I think a re-release could pull in a fast 5mil and a crawl for the last 5mil

I'm hoping for a one week limited engagement around Labor day in IMAX. That could be good for a million or two.

 

[sf2]

I'm hoping for a one week limited engagement around Labor day in IMAX. That could be good for a million or two.

Is it still remain as rumours that it will re release around Labour day?

 

[sf2]

WB's ridiculous box office expectations for MOS leads me to believe that they don't even know how to run a film studio. Not a DC film studio, but just a film studio in general.

Lol. They would go bankrupt long ago if they didn't.

Another factor that MOS doesn't have good legs is it doesn't make the kids love it / superman. Source : the kids choice awards.

 

[roach]

I think you guys are putting way too much emphasis on Jeff Robinov's comment.
Why would a guy who was passed up for the studio chief job, was marginalized at the studio, iced out of key decisions, that the studio leaked stories about his bad behavior...why would that guy want to take a dump on that studio's big summer movie?