Man of Steel Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 5

[MadVillainy]

damn some of you guys are depressingly pessimistic

 

[Kevin Smith]

But that didn't do aswell as this is doing at that point and I think had it been considered a good film and not backed them into a corner like it did with so many things e.g. the kids hey probably still would've gone ahead with a sequel. There's so much more riding on this like the start of a DCU on film.

Oh, I know there's a lot riding on it. Which is why even if it's not that great, I hope it makes a **** ton.

I hated that they gave him a kid in Returns. But why that film underperformed, the problem with that film wasn't that it was jacking off the Donner film in a poor Cover Band way, or that Lex was the villain, it wasn't even that they gave him a kid....

...It was the lack of action and Superman punching things. Had he punched things in it it would have opened with MOS numbers, IMO, and better performed. That is the only reason why that movie underperformed at the BO, even though it out grossed Batman Begins (but SR had a bigger budget so that = failure in WB's eyes).

 

[JangoNate]

I agree with this for the most part, but there was some "Superman = Jesus" in Returns but it was only there from the Donner film, and I liked Cavill better as Superman, I also think he is a better actor, but in reality he is probably just as good as Routh (someone in my theater complained he looked like Freddy Mercury ??? lol....?).

I wish they would get that stuff away from Superman. You don't see me putting a cape on a crucifix. Let Superman be Superman for once, he isn't Jesus. My eyes rolled so hard I could hear them when he goes to see the priest in that one scene (Kents were methodist anyway, not catholic) and there's a giant stained glass picture of Jesus behind him.

Give me a break.

The Kent's are Methodist? Awesome and it makes sense. For the record, there was nothing indicating that wasn't a Methodist church. As a Methodist pastor I've been called everything from priest to preacher, and I have a few collared shirts, too, though I don't wear them too often.

I wanna see WWZ, but not as much as I want to see MOS. I'm feeling confident about the sequel being made. Don't know what all the worrying'sabout.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

This thread is for box office discussion, folks.

Anything past that, take it elsewhere to the appropriate thread.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Yeah, the Friday numbers were disappointing, but it was going against two other big movies sure to make money. It will do fine in the long run. I don't think $300M+ domestic is out of the question.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

And all my family thought Cavill was good and it wasn't bad acting. This isn't the place for this arguement.

 

[Knightstalker]

This thread is for box office discussion, folks.

Anything past that, take it elsewhere to the appropriate thread.

Yes please, thanks for saying this.

 

[Sup3rman81]

I do not get what this movie has to do to please you haters. And this whole forum is full of negative people. It is very depressing. It broke records here and OS. It is going up against two anticiapted movies that are going to take viewers away. It is going to be enough for a sequel. WB is very happy

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't know about 300 but 290ish mil can happen.

Why did I come back to this thread? I said I didn't care about the box office outside of it getting a sequel and I don't.

 

[Kryptonian Titan]

Sequel has been underway for awhile. Beyond locked after last weekend's grosses.

Weekend grosses aren't good. $40M is terrible off that opening. No way to spin that. But people are overreacting.

Agreed on everything.

 

[Ultimatehero]

Yeah, the Friday numbers were disappointing, but it was going against two other big movies sure to make money. It will do fine in the long run. I don't think $300M+ domestic is out of the question.

Exactly. We're running right alongside IM2 if not with just a little less. It's also hard to judge because taking Walmart numbers into account if we make 43 mil this weekend, it will be less of a drop than IM2 -- but if you factor in Walmart we only made around 3 mil more of a drop which isn't really that much in the long run. Looking at IM2 making 312 and we're performing relatively the same if not just a little less -- I honestly don't see how people are looking at numbers like 250. I said it last weekend, I'll say it again - I looked for about IM2 performance this week and that is relatively what we are doing. So this isn't really surprising to me at all. I'm just surprised at the surprised reactions really.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Unless Cavill publicly insults America, MOS is making 290-300 DM. Fans need to chill out.

 

[Binker]

This talk about MOS dropping in its second week; not only am'I getting SR flashbacks, but also I gotta say this: with MOS opening exactly a week away from a Disney/Pixar film and a film that's zombie genre that mainstream audiences love nowadays, what did you think was going to happen?!

I knew this for a long time, when I saw the movies set for June 21st: this isn't big news for me, because a Disney or a Disney/Pixar is going to push to the top regardless of the previous film's ranking or word of mouth because it's a kids movie. As for WWZ: its a zombie movie, which mainstream audiences have embraced as evidenced with Resident Evil and even another comic book related material, The Walking Dead. Plus, when you add that WWZ is an epic zombie movie (epic in that in connects to why it has World War in its title) starring Brad Pitt; people are going to check it out with these reasons, at least in its first week. And just to add: I was hoping it wouldn't be the case, not because of hope or because I liked Superman and MOS, but because WWZ had gotten bad reviews and it wasn't treating its source material with respect, and I heard Monsters University was depressing. Yeah, depressing: Mike is shown to be working hard to become something, and fails. That's the movie! Jeez, Pixar.

But yeah, its been expected from my side. If anyone is fearful about MOS' future BO, let me tell you: a) with MOS breaking the June record that even WWZ won't do, WB is pretty happy and we will get a sequel and JL; b) second week BO doesn't hurt a movie, the overall BO from opening day to final theatre date being a disappointment hurts a movie, and I don't see MOS struggling given the records its breaking here and everywhere else; and c) stop complaining and keep on feeling happy that MOS exists and go see it again; I want to see it for the second time, and maybe a third, and you haven't done so, go do it. If you have, then wait for the right time, maybe when you're bored and have nothing to do, and have a little money to spend; or, maybe you have a friend who hasn't seen it and make plans to hang out and see it. It all comes down to us, the fans; see it again.

 

[Tony Stark]

This is actually quite simple using logic.

IM2 made 128,122,480 in it's opening weekend
MOS made 125 in it's opening weekend (if you want to include Walmart, which I have absolutely no idea why you wouldn't)

IM2 dropped 70.5% on it's 2nd Friday. While at worst MOS is looking at a 71% drop (I'm pretty sure the guy pages back who came up with that percentage used Walmart's numbers). IM 2 made 51 mil in its second weekend. MOS at worst is looking at 44 mil. So that's just 7 mil less. And if you discount MOS Walmart, looking at 116 mil -- then it seems that Yahoo's drop of 70% (less of a drop than IM2) is looking to be accurate (since it seems like they didn't include Walmart). IM2 dropped 77 mil in its second weekend, discounting Walmart MOS dropped 73 mil (including it, it dropped 81 mil).

In the end, IM2 ended with 312 mil.

Now unless we drop off the face of the earth, I see no reason how it could possibly be 250 mil since we're basically operating the same just less.

250M is a lock, 300M is not.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

It is going to crack $300M. For no reason than how WB got Superman Returns to $200M and The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey to $300M.

 

[skaldicpoet9]

I still don't understand those who claim that he was too brooding and 'angry'. There were tons of great moments in that movie where he was neither. The interrogation scene with Lois with that smirk and 'actually its not an S". The tender moments with Martha Kent in Smallville. The pleading with Zod to find a better way and the fear on his face when Zod edges his heat-vision towards that family. There were tons of those little flourishes, which I found Returns to be sorely lacking in. Routh's Superman was a wooden board with a smile painted on it. The most personality he had in that movie was after saving the plane and the "statistically speaking flying is still the safest way to travel" bit which was lifted from Superman: The Movie almost verbatim. I just don't think some people can stand to have Superman anything but super-smiley and cheesy.

 

[Ultimatehero]

250M is a lock, 300M is not.

I'd say 290 looks accurate. If you include Walmart we are only 1 mil behind IM2 opening weekend, if MOS makes 43 mil this weekend - we're only 7 mil away from what IM2 made. So after two weeks, it's just 8 mil away from what IM 2 made (312). Also counting Walmart - it's more of a drop. Discounting Walmart - it's less of a drop. And 2 weeks in, is already a long way in relatively speaking. I don't see as in the end being any more than 21 mil less than IM2 considering right now it's only 8 mil. It seems it would need to fall off the face of the Earth to do that.

 

[BH/HHH]

When does it open in Aus?

 

[Tony Stark]

The sequel is definitely happening, but if the film misses 300M, I hope they consider dumping Goyer, and putting some constraints on Snyder.

The cast is fine, if there was anything bothersome to audiences, it was that the script gave them little to nothing to work with. The talk of recasting Cavil is silly to me.

 

[Tony Stark]

It is going to crack $300M. For no reason than how WB got Superman Returns to $200M and The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey to $300M.

A fair point.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Like I said I remember the same doom and gloom for The Hunger Games second weekend. And that's not me making excuses for the bad drop.

 

[Knightstalker]

When does it open in Aus?

This Thursday. Can't wait . Going to see it Thurs, and Fri night

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I love it if Jonah came aboard for the sequel to help Goyer full-time. David might be a crappy writer but he has excellent ideas.

 

[Rock Sexton]

The sequel is definitely happening, but if the film misses 300M, I hope they consider dumping Goyer, and putting some constraints on Snyder.

The cast is fine, if there was anything bothersome to audiences, it was that the script gave them little to nothing to work with. The talk of recasting Cavil is silly to me.

Yeah, Goyer gave them nothing to work with. Although Amy Adams, came off somewhat sedated to me in this. There wasn't any spunk there with her. I cringed when she recited the "I'm a pulitzer prize winning journalist" line. That being said, I can stare at her for days.

 

[MadVillainy]

Yeah, Goyer gave them nothing to work with. Although Amy Adams, came off somewhat sedated to me in this. There wasn't any spunk there with her. I cringed when she recited the "I'm a pulitzer prize winning journalist" line. That being said, I can stare at her for days.

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