Man of Steel Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 8

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[J.Howlett]

There won't be. Contracts are already in place. It's Snyder and Goyer or bust.

Well, I'm still glad for that. The question is, what kind of interference will they run into this time around?

God, I'm already not looking forward to the sequel now and that's sad because Man of Steel, I think, really ****ing works.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Well, I'm still glad for that. The question is, what kind of interference will they run into this time around?

God, I'm already not looking forward to the sequel now and that's sad because Man of Steel, I think, really ****ing works.

Well with Legendary out of the picture and Nolan having little to no creative input (his choice) there's currently no one around to interfere. It'll be all Snyder and Goyer, until WB states otherwise or hires someone to oversee DC movies. But we all know how well that worked out last time

 

[J.Howlett]

Poni,

If WB's management is as poor as you say, then all we have to look forward to is a glutton of Marvel films.

Please, someone over at WB, stop this madness and get this organized.

 

[Hammer!]

I'm I in understanding that without Legendary, the new creative force for future DC movies will be from the same folks who helped produce GL?

 

[robot]

Well, I'm still glad for that. The question is, what kind of interference will they run into this time around?

God, I'm already not looking forward to the sequel now and that's sad because Man of Steel, I think, really ****ing works.

Thanks for continue the doom and gloom. We get it. You want a different creative team.

Why is it that when someone disagrees or find certain aspects of MOS not ideal suddenly translate to that person either 'a hater' or 'doom and gloom'...

Lots of people wasn't enthralled by goyer's script... and lots of people wanted him to be at least teamed up with someone else... that is one very consistent complain about MOS...

The movie is good, but could have been great!!!! And goyer doesn't have my vote to get to 'great'...

 

[J.Howlett]

Well with Legendary out of the picture and Nolan having little to no creative input (his choice) there's currently no one around to interfere. It'll be all Snyder and Goyer, until WB states otherwise or hires someone to oversee DC movies. But we all know how well that worked out last time

Well, I liked Green Lantern, despite the glaring flaws, and I adore Man of Steel so maybe WB will leave Goyer and Snyder alone.

 

[J.Howlett]

Why is it that when someone disagrees or find certain aspects of MOS not ideal suddenly translate to that person either 'a hater' or 'doom and gloom'...

Lots of people wasn't enthralled by goyer's script... and lots of people wanted him to be at least teamed up with someone else... that is one very consistent complain about MOS...

The movie is good, but could have been great!!!! And goyer doesn't have my vote to get to 'great'...

Because Tobias has been saying the same thing for 20 pages. That's why. Not saying he can't have an opinion but sheesh, 20 pages of the same thing?

 

[Poni_Boy]

I'm I in understanding that without Legendary, the new creative force for future DC movies will be from the same folks who helped produce GL?

Not necessarily. Different producers, directors and writers. But it is similar in the way that GL was a fully financed WB movie unlike MOS and TDK trilogy

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I highly doubt they demanded 80%...

Disney did. for Iron Man 3. That's why AMC stopped all pre-sales and "refunded" people's orders. But Disney called their bluff

 

[Poni_Boy]

Well, I liked Green Lantern

Oh so you're the one

 

[J.Howlett]

Not necessarily. Different producers, directors and writers. But it is similar in the way that GL was a fully financed WB movie unlike MOS and TDK trilogy



Disney did. for Iron Man 3. That's why AMC stopped all pre-sales and "refunded" people's orders. But Disney called their bluff

But with Lantern, they just got the wrong team in place. I'm not sure having Legendary on that film would've helped.

 

[J.Howlett]

Oh so you're the one

How do you think it got to 200 million worldwide?

 

[Hammer!]

I meant in the sense that they were run by DC entertainment. With Legendary gone would DC Entertainment take over in some capacity? You would think it would be a good thing if DC got more heavily involved in their films but, yea...Green Lantern.

 

[Poni_Boy]

How do you think it got to 200 million worldwide?

Ryan Reynolds bought 1.2 million tickets. In 3D.

And you saw it the other 12 times.

 

[ConnorKon-El]

because tobias has been saying the same thing for 20 pages. That's why. Not saying he can't have an opinion but sheesh, 20 pages of the same thing?

thank you.

 

[J.Howlett]

Ryan Reynolds bought 1.2 million tickets. In 3D.

And you saw it the other 12 times.

How did you know that? That was a secret between me and Ryan.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I meant in the sense that they were run by DC entertainment. With Legendary gone would DC Entertainment take over in some capacity? You would think it would be a good thing if DC got more heavily involved in their films but, yea...Green Lantern.

In addition to new leadership at the studio under the helm of CEO Kevin Tsujihara, Warner Bros. is looking to take more control over films based on DC’s superheroes and not offer the projects up to co-financiers the way it let Legendary back Christopher Nolan’s Batman trilogy, “Superman Returns” and “Man of Steel.”

Doesn't say anything about DC Entertainment running the movie-verse. As it looks WB will handle the films from now on the same way they handle all of their other movies. That studio likes to operate on a one-strike policy. DCE had their chance with GL and botched it every way imaginable. And remember, WB let them call ALL the shots with the exception of hiring Martin Campbell.

 

[robot]

Not necessarily. Different producers, directors and writers. But it is similar in the way that GL was a fully financed WB movie unlike MOS and TDK trilogy



Disney did. for Iron Man 3. That's why AMC stopped all pre-sales and "refunded" people's orders. But Disney called their bluff

Do you have a source for the 80%? I still find it hard to believe...

 

[J.Howlett]

In addition to new leadership at the studio under the helm of CEO Kevin Tsujihara, Warner Bros. is looking to take more control over films based on DC’s superheroes and not offer the projects up to co-financiers the way it let Legendary back Christopher Nolan’s Batman trilogy, “Superman Returns” and “Man of Steel.”

Doesn't say anything about DC Entertainment running the movie-verse. As it looks WB will handle the films from now on the same way they handle all of their other movies. That studio likes to operate on a one-strike policy. DCE had their chance with GL and botched it every way imaginable. And remember, WB let them call ALL the shots with the exception of hiring Martin Campbell.

I didn't know that DCE called all the shots on Lantern? Well, no wonder they're not getting another shot.

 

[robot]

Not necessarily. Different producers, directors and writers. But it is similar in the way that GL was a fully financed WB movie unlike MOS and TDK trilogy



Disney did. for Iron Man 3. That's why AMC stopped all pre-sales and "refunded" people's orders. But Disney called their bluff

I looked it up.. you were wrong.. like i said, the days of 80% is over... here's the quote on the dispute:

The decision comes a week after AMC and Regal Entertainment, the nation's largest theater chain, stopped selling advance tickets for the movie, amid objections over how much revenue Disney wanted to collect on "Iron Man 3" and other upcoming films.

Sources said Disney was seeking up to 65% of ticket sales for "Iron Man 3," well above the 50% to 55% that studios typically collect.

AMC's Chief Executive Gerry Lopez told the Los Angeles Times during the CinemaCon convention last week that Disney's stance "puts us in a very, very uncomfortable situation."

 

[Tobias]

Why is it that when someone disagrees or find certain aspects of MOS not ideal suddenly translate to that person either 'a hater' or 'doom and gloom'...

Lots of people wasn't enthralled by goyer's script... and lots of people wanted him to be at least teamed up with someone else... that is one very consistent complain about MOS...

The movie is good, but could have been great!!!! And goyer doesn't have my vote to get to 'great'...

Yup. It has to be great. There will be even more riding on MOS2's BO than on MOS. If it doesn't get huge numbers that puts JL in jeopardy as well as MOS3. Like you I don't see Goyer getting to great either.

I hope someone from WB is at ComiCon to answer some questions. So far I can't find where they will be there. That Snyder isn't apparently going to be there from what I've seen so far, they could add him at the last minute, I don't think WB will issue any announcement about their next film at next month's ComiCon.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Do you have a source for the 80%? I still find it hard to believe...

Nope. The statements released were something along the lines of "we've come to an undisclosed compromise" which to me means "Disney won but we want to save face and they're ok with that"

EDIT: Oh ok. 65% works too. Either way, the studio didn't budge. Which means they still hold the power with their most popular movies

 

[robot]

Yup. It has to be great. There will be even more riding on MOS2's BO than on MOS. If it doesn't get huge numbers that puts JL in jeopardy as well as MOS3. Like you I don't see Goyer getting to great either.

I hope someone from WB is at ComiCon to answer some questions. So far I can't find where they will be there. That Snyder isn't apparently going to be there from what I've seen so far, they could add him at the last minute, I don't think WB will issue any announcement about their next film at next month's ComiCon.

I wish i lived in the US.. that way i can go to ComicCon with my superman costume!!!!!! t:t:t:

 

[J.Howlett]

Yup. It has to be great. There will be even more riding on MOS2's BO than on MOS. If it doesn't get huge numbers that puts JL in jeopardy as well as MOS3. Like you I don't see Goyer getting to great either.

I hope someone from WB is at ComiCon to answer some questions. So far I can't find where they will be there. That Snyder isn't apparently going to be there from what I've seen so far, they could add him at the last minute, I don't think WB will issue any announcement about their next film at next month's ComiCon.

So basically, Man of Steel 2 has to make a billion or bust?

How insane is that that a billion is the norm now to some people? This is why my bubbling hate for what the Avengers did to the landscape of this genre is starting to boil over...

Time to get out of the game....