Man of Steel Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 8

[Poni_Boy]

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Iron Man 3's legs have been awful.

What? The movie crossed 400 million domestically and 800 mil overseas in 10 weeks. 10 weeks. There is no way you can possibly spin that as awful. Just look at the daily record chart:

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Iron-Man-3

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Seriously I know the competition is tough but what am I missing with these numbers? They all dropped tremendously? Did they not?

http://boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?view=daily&id=originshow.htm

I forgot what a beast the original Spider-Man was.

 

[Majestic]

What are you even trying to ask?

Just an observation looking at the numbers and the drops Mos is roughly 30 million ahead of iron man may not have the legs but obviously performing well is the point.

 

[Tony Stark]

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Iron Man 3's legs have been awful.

Now you're exaggerating. Assuming it's going to end around 410M or thereabout, that's a 2.34 multiplier, not great but slightly below average, and will be higher than MoS' multiplier.

 

[Liam_H]

Just an observation looking at the numbers and the drops Mos is roughly 30 million ahead of iron man may not have the legs but obviously performing well is the point.

Well it open about $30M ahead of it so...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

What? The movie crossed 400 million domestically and 800 mil overseas in 10 weeks. 10 weeks. There is no way you can possibly spin that as awful. Just look at the daily record chart:

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Iron-Man-3

What about the multiplier?

 

[Majestic]

Well it open about $30M ahead of it so...

So it still been out less than 2 weeks a ways to go until the end which makes the argument ridiculous

 

[Liam_H]

When you have mega openings like IM3 did you are bound to have a smaller multiplier. All IM3 legs really say is that people liked it but didn't love like they did TDK and TA. That says more about them and their WOM. Those two movies got multiples viewings while IM3 not as much.

 

[kalhawj]

Well the marketing is to get the audience interested, that's the whole point of it.

Yes and no... Remember John Carter? They had lots of marketing push and it still flop at the BO. Marketing helps but doesn't guarantee that the GA will show up.

 

[ares834]

What? The movie crossed 400 million domestically and 800 mil overseas in 10 weeks. 10 weeks. There is no way you can possibly spin that as awful. Just look at the daily record chart:

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Iron-Man-3

That doesn't mean it has good legs. A 2.35 multiplier isn't utterly awful, but it's not good.

 

[Liam_H]

So it still been out less than 2 weeks a ways to go until the end which makes the argument ridiculous

So then why are you bringing up a chart that compares it daily total to say its $30M ahead of it.

 

[Liam_H]

Yes and no... Remember John Carter? They had lots of marketing push and it still flop at the BO. Marketing helps but doesn't guarantee that the GA will show up.

Never said anything about how effective marketing can be. It can suck or it can be good.

 

[Majestic]

Well it open about $30M ahead of it so...

And would you not want to be 30 meters ahead in a 100 meter race? Not saying it will beat IM original numbers Dom but it is more than good is what I am saying

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That doesn't mean it has good legs. A 2.35 multiplier isn't utterly awful, but it's not good.

Exactly. Iron Man 3 is a great success, but it hasn't had great legs. If it had great legs it would be in TDK and Avengers territory domestically. It isn't even close.

 

[Majestic]

So then why are you bringing up a chart that compares it daily total to say its $30M ahead of it.

Is that hard to understand considering how unreasonable this thread has become?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

And would you not want to be 30 meters ahead in a 100 meter race? Not saying it will beat IM original numbers Dom but it is more than good is what I am saying

There is something to be said about the difference between 2008 money and 2013 money in this regard. Adjusted they are probably pretty close, or Iron Man could even be ahead.

 

[Snark88]

Great legs? It made $174m first weekend. It is at $403m. Its multiplier isn't great at all.

It made 800 million OS. The studio is gonna look at that multiplier and go "pff b**** please."

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It made 800 million OS. The studio is gonna look at that multiplier and go "pff b**** please."

That wasn't the question was it? Iron Man 3 has done great, but that wasn't the question. We were talking legs.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Now you're exaggerating. Assuming it's going to end around 410M or thereabout, that's a 2.34 multiplier, not great but slightly below average, and will be higher than MoS' multiplier.

Man oh man, the industry has sure changed a lot even during a 10-15 year span. It will be interesting to see where things are in 15 years. Sub-2.0 multipliers will be the norm for big openers.

 

[Majestic]

There is something to be said about the difference between 2008 money and 2013 money in this regard. Adjusted they are probably pretty close, or Iron Man could even be ahead.

Yeah I agree but either way it is the money in the bank today not what you had yesterday. You never look back at if I made that and adjusted for inflation it would be worth this because today it is worth what it is and no matter how slice 300 million or slightly less is a lot of MONEY!

 

[Liam_H]

Is that hard to understand considering how unreasonable this thread has become?

Depends how seriously you're taking most of it. I'm just here to analyze the numbers as they come in. Everything else about what should WB do next or that competition or WOM is killing this movie I don't care. Just the numbers and I'll make my judgement from those.

 

[Knightstalker]

Man oh man, the industry has sure changed a lot even during a 10-15 year span. It will be interesting to see where things are in 15 years. Sub-2.0 multipliers will be the norm for big openers.

Yep, in 20 years, your average flop will probably gross more than Avatar lol

 

[Poni_Boy]

There is something to be said about the difference between 2008 money and 2013 money in this regard. Adjusted they are probably pretty close, or Iron Man could even be ahead.

Don't forget 3D. And adding to that, MOS was released on 80% 3D screens. Lots of small/medium venues had little to no 2D showings the first week

 

[redfirebird2008]

There is something to be said about the difference between 2008 money and 2013 money in this regard. Adjusted they are probably pretty close, or Iron Man could even be ahead.

IM1 adjusted for inflation and 3D is around $385-390m. So yeah, MOS isn't anywhere near the same ballpark in terms of ticket sales.

 

[Majestic]

Depends how seriously you're taking most of it. I'm just here to analyze the numbers as they come in. Everything else about what should WB do next or that competition or WOM is killing this movie I don't care. Just the numbers and I'll make my judgement from those.

That is cool which is respectable