Superman Returns Man of Steel: The Official Brandon Routh Thread

[Superark]

easy...because they're trying to differentiate this movie from Singer's. logic dictates the best way to do that is to provide a new face for the lead role...which is, of course, Superman. now they might be able to get away with dressing him up differently and giving both Superman and Clark a different look, but that's risky...and harder to do than simply finding a new actor. also, i'll agree that he did a "good" job, but that's really an OPINION and not a FACT.

i just can't see the Nolans casting him. i can always be wrong, but if Jonny boy gets the job and he's anything like Chris...then he'll want high caliber thespians well versed in the art of performance. unfortunately, even though Routh looks more like Superman than ever (and arguably than anyone in contention right now) his acting is pretty bland and dull. imo, SR was probably his best performance to date and that's really not saying much. as i agreed...he did a good job, but he didn't do a GREAT job.



that being said, if he gets the job a part of me will be revealed that we have an actor who definitely looks the part, but the other half will be worried that he'll deliver another less-than-stellar performance.

I don't expect him to be casted, but I surely feel he deserves consideration. I don't think you need to recast the role to get away from the SR.

Also, I think it's a fact he was widely liked in the role. There's always going to be people who don't like the actor in the main role. But he had far more people who liked him than not.

Now whether people think he did a good job or great job is a lot more split.

 

[DorkyFresh]

if a director like Ron Howard or Zemeckis were to helm this film and cast Routh then i'd be fine with Routh, but all signs are pointing to Jonathan Nolan helming this baby and he's NEVER directed a movie before...so there's no telling how he'll be directing his actors. the thing with Christopher is that he has cast actors who can hold their own without an "actor's director" so he can focus on other things like the script and fleshing out the world in his movies. Pearce, Pacino, Bale, Jackman, Ledger, DiCaprio....all actors who give STRONG performances regardless of the director. Routh simply does not belong in that list of actors, not because he's unpopular, but because he just hasn't given a STRONG performance. solid isn't the same as strong.

 

[knowsbleed]

For someone as iconic as Superman, I feel that the presence/looks would be more important than his actual acting ability. His actions on the screen are what we are going to be wowed by... if they can nail his on screen presence and his power, then we have a Superman that audiences will be satisfied with. He is Superman after all... not Shakespeareman.

 

[DorkyFresh]

i feel presence/looks are EQUALLY as important as acting ability. Chris Reeve had both and while i feel the Routh certainly has the look, i don't feel he has the ability. maybe a new director who actually knows how to direct a Superman movie can inspire such a performance, but i have yet to see a performance from Routh that i'm impressed by.

i'll be the first person to say that whoever plays Superman doesn't need to recite Shakespeare, but every Superman that will ever be cast will be compared to Reeve...who gave a SPECTACULAR performance. nothing i've seen from Routh even comes close to what Reeve did when he found Lois dead after the earthquake. he's Superman, but he's still emotionally vulnerable...and i'd like to see that in this film.

if Brandon can deliver that kind of a performance then sally forth...but again, i have yet to see anything indicating as such.

 

[knowsbleed]

I don't feel that Cavill has the presence that Routh could have as Superman given a director who wasn't as narrow-visioned as Singer was. If Routh could be given wide-berth to portray Superman as he sees, I'm sure he could... but in SR, he was severely limited by a script and by a director who, I feel, didn't really know what he wanted... other than making a modern version of the original Superman movie. Cavill is a fine, strong actor... but I don't see him as Superman.

 

[DorkyFresh]

who said anything about Cavill?


if Routh is given more room to work with then he MIGHT be able to act more like Supes, but again...i can't stress enough how unmoved i am with Routh's performances since SR. nothing he's done since SR has given me any confidence in his acting prowess.

 

[knowsbleed]

I guess I haven't followed him as closely, I've only seen him in Zack and Miri... which was just a cameo. And I know damn well that you are a staunch Cavill supporter... just as you know that I was an avid James Caviezel supporter.

Given Nolan's involvement... I doubt they are going to go with either. I'm sure him and his people already have someone in mind. If Jackman didn't have such a stigma as Wolverine... they might even have considered him.

... but I digress. SR was such a waste... of everything. I'm still irked by it and I just feel that Routh has much more potential in a character that he genuinely loves. I'm sure that he would do it justice given a little bit of free reign.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

There are NO high quality thespians, who are known American actors, that meet the basic physical requirements for Superman.

If there were, they would have come up in the casting threads.


The only chance for Nolan and co. to supposedly find an actor like that is another complete unknown like Reeve was, and that's a huge shot in the dark too.

 

[DorkyFresh]

I guess I haven't followed him as closely, I've only seen him in Zack and Miri... which was just a cameo. And I know damn well that you are a staunch Cavill supporter... just as you know that I was an avid James Caviezel supporter.

i wouldn't say i'm a STAUNCH Cavill supporter, but i just think he's the most qualified one in contention at the moment. he doesn't have the best look, but he has the most acting experience and that makes up for his boyish look. anyway, this is a Routh thread...so i try to keep the topic on Routh.

Given Nolan's involvement... I doubt they are going to go with either. I'm sure him and his people already have someone in mind. If Jackman didn't have such a stigma as Wolverine... they might even have considered him.

Man of Tomorrow mentioned that they won't be looking at any previous contenders anymore, but i don't see the logic in that...so i'll keep rooting for Cavill until an announcement is made. as for Jackman, well, i honestly think he's too old for the role even if he weren't Wolverine. he's in great shape, but his crows feet can no longer be ignored.

... but I digress. SR was such a waste... of everything. I'm still irked by it and I just feel that Routh has much more potential in a character that he genuinely loves. I'm sure that he would do it justice given a little bit of free reign.

i'll agree with you here. again, if Routh is cast then i'll be able to rest a little bit because i love his look. i just hope he steps up his acting game.

There are NO high quality thespians, who are known American actors, that meet the basic physical requirements for Superman.

i beg to differ...Cavill is a high quality actor and he meets all of the basic physical requirements for Superman, but again....this is a Routh thread, so in the interest of keeping the topic of discussion on him i won't go any further about Cavill.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

i beg to differ...Cavill is a high quality actor and he meets all of the basic physical requirements for Superman, but again....this is a Routh thread, so in the interest of keeping the topic of discussion on him i won't go any further about Cavill.

His quality is debatable, but first and foremost, he's not American. I said 'American actors.' The Warners aren't considering him according to Show/Jamie and Nolan is a traditionalist who knows Superman is the All-American boyscout.

So back to my original point, there are no known actors that meet that thespian criteria.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

http://www.teenhollywood.com/2010/08/09/scott-pilgrim-and-the-evil-ex

TeenHollywood: That's cool. There is talk of a Superman reboot. Have you heard anything on that?

Brandon: No, have you?

TeenHollywood: Just what I've read. Has it been difficult shaking off the Superman thing? And, shaking it off, if director Christopher Nolan gave you a call and said, 'Hey, do you want to take a meeting?' Would you be interested?

Brandon: Absolutely. I certainly would. As much as, like I said, I’m working to shake that off, or shake it up, I certainly don’t want to extinguish or get rid of it. Because it was a great honor, and I would love to be able to return as that character. Brandon Returns.....again.

TeenHollywood: There actually is sort of an Internet groundswell in the past couple of weeks towards getting you back into it.

Brandon: Awesome! Turn it into a tsunami. Yeah, I absolutely would love to be a part of it. That answers the question, I think. It would be exciting to see the Nolan vision.

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

Drew "Moriarty" McWeeny interviews Brandon for Scott Pilgrim:
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12...andon-routh-and-satya-bhabha-on-scott-pilgrim
The funniest part is what Drew wrote:

Gentlemen, if you ever want to feel like a total blob of crap, the easiest way to accomplish that is by sitting across from Brandon Routh for a few moments.
Back when "Superman Returns" was about to come out, Legendary Pictures held a special screening of the film on the Warner Lot, and afterwards, guests had the chance to either pose for a photo with Routh or with Kevin Spacey. My wife didn't have to think at all about the choice, dragging me into the line for Routh. In the picture we ended up taking, my wife has a smile on her face I'm not sure I've ever seen directed at me.
And these days? Routh's at least twice as ripped as he was when he played Superman. I can only imagine what would happen if I unleashed her on him now.
Playing the Evil Exes in "Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World" has got to be one of the best gigs for any actor in 2010, and every single one of the cast members who played an Evil Ex appears to have had an amazing time doing so. Routh is so good in the role that it almost feels like he's rebooting his career here...

 

[DorkyFresh]

His quality is debatable, but first and foremost, he's not American. I said 'American actors.' The Warners aren't considering him according to Show/Jamie and Nolan is a traditionalist who knows Superman is the All-American boyscout.

So back to my original point, there are no known actors that meet that thespian criteria.

in the interest of keeping the topic of discussion on Brandon Routh, i'll reply to this in the casting thread...

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

You're probably better off replying here.

No Routh or Cavill discussion is allowed in the casting thread.

 

[TheWatcher]

Routh has improved on his acting lately. Now I really,REALLY want him back.

 

[stargazer]

I think you should discuss the 'greatness' that is Cavill on HIS thread. This thread is to discuss Brandon Routh.

The roundtable began with just Schwartzman as Cera was busy for a few minutes. He commented on the tiny water bottles that were provided and how this bottle in his hand is how a normal bottle looks in Brandon Routh’s hand. “He IS Superman, it’s amazing,” Schwartzman said.

http://www.collider.com/2010/08/08/...rld-interview-michael-cera-jason-schwartzman/

 

[TheWatcher]

I think it's hilarious how everyone still thinks of him as Superman EXCEPT for select comic fans.

 

[stargazer]

I think it's hilarious how everyone still thinks of him as Superman EXCEPT for select comic fans.

Yep. To general audiences he IS Superman. Period.

I think he did a great job and totally embodied the character. I had Superman in that movie, no doubt. And I'm sure he would be even better a second time around if given the chance. I just can't see anybody else in the role. Just can't. Brandon was that good for me.



Take a little look at Brandon as rocker Todd Ingram here, t:

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=420530340162

Gosh, I love that song!

 

[treeringralph]

easy...because they're trying to differentiate this movie from Singer's. logic dictates the best way to do that is to provide a new face for the lead role...which is, of course, Superman. now they might be able to get away with dressing him up differently and giving both Superman and Clark a different look, but that's risky...and harder to do than simply finding a new actor. also, i'll agree that he did a "good" job, but that's really an OPINION and not a FACT.

i just can't see the Nolans casting him. i can always be wrong, but if Jonny boy gets the job and he's anything like Chris...then he'll want high caliber thespians well versed in the art of performance. unfortunately, even though Routh looks more like Superman than ever (and arguably than anyone in contention right now) his acting is pretty bland and dull. imo, SR was probably his best performance to date and that's really not saying much. as i agreed...he did a good job, but he didn't do a GREAT job.



that being said, if he gets the job a part of me will be revealed that we have an actor who definitely looks the part, but the other half will be worried that he'll deliver another less-than-stellar performance.

So why post in this thread?

 

[manofsteel4life]

i feel presence/looks are EQUALLY as important as acting ability. Chris Reeve had both and while i feel the Routh certainly has the look, i don't feel he has the ability. maybe a new director who actually knows how to direct a Superman movie can inspire such a performance, but i have yet to see a performance from Routh that i'm impressed by.

i'll be the first person to say that whoever plays Superman doesn't need to recite Shakespeare, but every Superman that will ever be cast will be compared to Reeve...who gave a SPECTACULAR performance. nothing i've seen from Routh even comes close to what Reeve did when he found Lois dead after the earthquake. he's Superman, but he's still emotionally vulnerable...and i'd like to see that in this film.

if Brandon can deliver that kind of a performance then sally forth...but again, i have yet to see anything indicating as such.

i almost totally agree with what your saying here, but the thing is he hasn't had anything like that happen in any of his movies so far. I mean when in SR did he have room to act like that?

 

[SatEL]

I think it's hilarious how everyone still thinks of him as Superman EXCEPT for select comic fans.

Who is this everyone friend? Because I can also make the claim that only a "select" few view Routh as Superman. The other day my little cousin was watching cheaper by the dozen and all of a sudden he starts yelling look Superman it's Superman. I am sure your intelligent enough to figure out who he meant, unless you believe Routh was in those movies. Besides like Dorky said how are you going to cast the same person from a supposedly failed movie to be the new face of the same character he played in said failed movie? This is a new slate meaning a new Superman period.

 

[stargazer]

Winstead for Lois!! I think they look great together.

http://www.facebook.com/BrandonRouthcom#!/album.php?aid=467497&id=10150131491105262&ref=mf



DC Comics has been less consistent with their comics-into-movies, which is why Warner Bros. has appointed two new execs to run the division, vet Harry Potter supervisor Diane Nelson and comics writer Geoff Johns. They are charged with doing better with the upcoming Green Lantern and Chris Nolan’s reinvention of Superman than the studio did with Jonah Hex, among other things. (Every time I saw Brandon Routh at Comic-Con, I was reminded of how much I liked him as the Caped Crusader. I’m not the only one.)

http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/2010/08/10/comic-con_media_round_up/

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[Antonello Blueberry]

The failed movie that made 400 million $ in theaters...

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

Winstead for Lois!! I think they look great together.

http://www.facebook.com/BrandonRouthcom#!/album.php?aid=467497&id=10150131491105262&ref=mf



DC Comics has been less consistent with their comics-into-movies, which is why Warner Bros. has appointed two new execs to run the division, vet Harry Potter supervisor Diane Nelson and comics writer Geoff Johns. They are charged with doing better with the upcoming Green Lantern and Chris Nolan’s reinvention of Superman than the studio did with Jonah Hex, among other things. (Every time I saw Brandon Routh at Comic-Con, I was reminded of how much I liked him as the Caped Crusader. I’m not the only one.)

http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/2010/08/10/comic-con_media_round_up/

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Isn't Batman the Caped Crusader?

 

[treeringralph]

The failed movie that made 400 million $ in theaters...

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEExactly.
(slow clap...clap...clap...clap...clap...)