The Last Jedi Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker (VIII)

LF/Disney is putting Mark name in for the Oscars for Best Actor

Good for them. I hope he gets a nomination. I have such respect for Hamill. He's an extremely gracious and humble guy for all the attention he has gotten starting at a relatively young age, and he has been a huge supporter and he never once bad mouthed the franchise the way even Ford and some others have done.
 
I loved what we got. And how he did it explained why there wasn't as much "clashing" involved.

Plus, the shoulder sweep? Come on, that was epic!

It made me extremely satisfied being a huge Luke fan.
 
Really-?

I was hugely disappointed. Luke refused to do anything until the very end of the film, at which point he didn't do anything,
because he wasn't really there. Luke in The Last Jedi in 95% ignoring the plight of the galaxy, 5% distraction.
 
Regarding fan service and playing on the character from the OT I don't think we got more than what's matched by Han Solo's "Chewie, we're home" line.

Luke was, as Hamill has stated, a completely different character this time around and the one time he did something it was pretty obvious that he wasn't actually there as there was no reason for him suddenly looking younger like in the flashbacks.

This reminds me of Batman in TDK, taking the blame because he's strong enough to do what the city need, and then TDKR shows us that he just retired because he couldn't handle it. It's writing that makes the event in the previous film seem a bit more anticlimactic.

Han and Leia were handled better, having developed but still resembling their past characters.
 
In Episode 4, Luke was an adventure seeking individual who found out about his Jedi lineage and pissed about the Empire for killing his Uncle and Aunt.

In Episode 5, he developed friendships in the Rebellion and adopted their cause against the Empire while also learning about the Force and seeking the person who killed his father.

In Episode 6, he wanted to redeem his father and save the galaxy from the Empire.

So why are people shock on how Luke turned out 30 years later???

I think it's actually a natural progression of Luke especially after seeing what happened to Kylo Ren.
 
In Episode 4, Luke was an adventure seeking individual who found out about his Jedi lineage and pissed about the Empire for killing his Uncle and Aunt.

In Episode 5, he developed friendships in the Rebellion and adopted their cause against the Empire while also learning about the Force and seeking the person who killed his father.

In Episode 6, he wanted to redeem his father and save the galaxy from the Empire.

So why are people shock on how Luke turned out 30 years later???

I think it's actually a natural progression of Luke especially after seeing what happened to Kylo Ren.

Your rundown is lacking in my view since you don't manage to highlight that Luke's core driving motivation in the OT never changes. He's always willing and eager to take huge risks to fight for the greater good and he's also never willing to give up on anyone he loves, even his father who's turned evil and slaughtered millions.
 
Good for them. I hope he gets a nomination. I have such respect for Hamill. He's an extremely gracious and humble guy for all the attention he has gotten starting at a relatively young age, and he has been a huge supporter and he never once bad mouthed the franchise the way even Ford and some others have done.

Yes, most of the actors have a complicated history with Star Wars, but Mark has always seemed to appreciate it and the fans more than any of its other stars.
 
Mjölnir;36144025 said:
Your rundown is lacking in my view since you don't manage to highlight that Luke's core driving motivation in the OT never changes. He's always willing and eager to take huge risks to fight for the greater good and he's also never willing to give up on anyone he loves, even his father who's turned evil and slaughtered millions.

I do think Luke losing his nephew the same way his father went could cause him to have a personal fall. Everything he built between ROTJ and Kylo's turn was destroyed in fire and death. I do believe it would take a heavy toll on him.

Is this the only direction they could have taken Old Man Luke? No, they could have done something different with it. But I actually like how it was handled for the most part, even if it was not what I would have expected.
 
I really liked what Mark did with the role. Yes I get that there was a change in direction for Luke, but I thought it made sense with what the story was. Hero's often have imperfections and I thought that the way the writers and the way Mark played the role made perfect sense.

I always thought in the prequels there was a real lack of accountability from the Jedi on their failings, especially with Yoda. Lucas really missed an opportunity to make the characters deeper because of this. This movie addressed those missed opportunities and while I get some are upset with the change in direction, I thought it made sense with what the story line was, and I thought Mark did a terrific job.

....and we finally know where Blue Milk comes from! LOL!
 
I do think Luke losing his nephew the same way his father went could cause him to have a personal fall. Everything he built between ROTJ and Kylo's turn was destroyed in fire and death. I do believe it would take a heavy toll on him.

Is this the only direction they could have taken Old Man Luke? No, they could have done something different with it. But I actually like how it was handled for the most part, even if it was not what I would have expected.

My comment wasn't really about whether it's good or bad, I just wanted to make it clear that it is indeed a big change from the core of what the character has been in all his other appearances.

Change isn't inherently good or bad. We have widely praised versions of comic book stories that play very loose with the comic versions this year, like Logan and Ragnarok, and we have less liked ones like what JL did to the characters.

Personally I think I like Luke in TLJ less the more I think about it, but I think I'd like it more if it started like it did but played out a bit differently afterwards. So I'm not opposed to the idea of change, I just didn't love this particular execution. Mark did a good job with what he had though.
 
Luke not actually coming back to save the Rebellion is the logical conclusion of the message of the film. If he had gone there himself, he likely would have survived and been roped back into Rebellion as their hero. Now,
he saved the day one last time in a way that allows our heroes to move on.
Instead of looking for a hero to save them, they have to find the heroes within themselves.
 
Really-?

I was hugely disappointed. Luke refused to do anything until the very end of the film, at which point he didn't do anything,
because he wasn't really there. Luke in The Last Jedi in 95% ignoring the plight of the galaxy, 5% distraction.

:huh:

He saved the rebellion.
 
I do think Luke losing his nephew the same way his father went could cause him to have a personal fall. Everything he built between ROTJ and Kylo's turn was destroyed in fire and death. I do believe it would take a heavy toll on him.

Is this the only direction they could have taken Old Man Luke? No, they could have done something different with it. But I actually like how it was handled for the most part, even if it was not what I would have expected.

Pretty much echoes my opnion. An awful lot of complaints I've read seem to stem from the fact that Luke is not who/where/doing stuff they thought he would be 30 years later. I was initially during production, but I liked where they went with him.

Luke not actually coming back to save the Rebellion is the logical conclusion of the message of the film. If he had gone there himself, he likely would have survived and been roped back into Rebellion as their hero. Now,
he saved the day one last time in a way that allows our heroes to move on.
Instead of looking for a hero to save them, they have to find the heroes within themselves.

:wowe:
 
Man this is exactly what I wanted. :csad::csad::csad:

His arrival into the dire rebel situation should’ve been hype. You show a shot of an X-Wing underwater you better have Luke Skywalker lift it in Act 3. Instead, ghost time.
 
His arrival into the dire rebel situation should’ve been hype. You show a shot of an X-Wing underwater you better have Luke Skywalker lift it in Act 3. Instead, ghost time.

But if it's been under the water for years, it probably doesn't work anymore.
 
I'm conflicted about how it was done, but I liked the general message it sent.

Luke Skywalker gave the new Rebellion a legend and spark to help move it forward after it basically been reduced to almost nothing. Luke's last legendary act will inspire a new generation of Rebels and potential Jedi.
 
I'm conflicted about how it was done, but I liked the general message it sent.

Luke Skywalker gave the new Rebellion a legend and spark to help move it forward after it basically been reduced to almost nothing. Luke's last legendary act will inspire a new generation of Rebels and potential Jedi.

It already was. The stories the kids were telling at the end were the new stories about him, not the old ones.
 
I really liked what Mark did with the role. Yes I get that there was a change in direction for Luke, but I thought it made sense with what the story was. Hero's often have imperfections and I thought that the way the writers and the way Mark played the role made perfect sense.

I always thought in the prequels there was a real lack of accountability from the Jedi on their failings, especially with Yoda. Lucas really missed an opportunity to make the characters deeper because of this. This movie addressed those missed opportunities and while I get some are upset with the change in direction, I thought it made sense with what the story line was, and I thought Mark did a terrific job.

....and we finally know where Blue Milk comes from! LOL!

I agree with all of that. Luke was the best thing about the film, and Hamill deserved top billing.

I particularity enjoyed that he scorned his own "legend" . If I could have changed one thing, I would have had a final Luke and Rey scene, where he projects himself to her for a couple of quick words before disappearing and reappearing at the final battle.

For a film with a lot of pointless stuff in it, the Luke parts always felt like they mattered, more than anything else in the movie.
 
Luke displayed powers beyond what we've seen any force user do in any of the films including Yoda.

Luke becoming one with the force was perfect with him looking out to the horizon, returning him to the Luke we always knew

This film has the boldness to deal with mistakes that people make that Lucas refused to address in the prequels. The way Lucas did the prequels Yoda and the Jedi council were portrayed as complete idiots. This film at least tries to deal with the realities of failure, and coming to terms with it, and I thought it did so beautifully.
 
I loved "See you around, kid." He was channelling Han right there.

My dad lost it at the shoulder-brush when we saw it today. :up:
 
The displays of power of the Force were much more impressive in this movie than any other. I loved it.
 
His arrival into the dire rebel situation should’ve been hype. You show a shot of an X-Wing underwater you better have Luke Skywalker lift it in Act 3. Instead, ghost time.

I was actually expecting that too. Would have been a nice callback to ESB and show how he has truly grown in the Force since then.
 

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