Capcom Marvel vs. Capcom 3

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, that's def a wasted spot. Mephisto is enough

 

[zeptron]

I hope they don't put in a second Wolverine again like in MVC2. I never understood that. That spot could have gone to Thor or one of the Fantastic Four.

 

[KangConquers]

If Thor is in this, I don't give a **** who else is/isn't.

 

[terry78]

That trailer was very nice, even though it's basically as the first SF IV trailer was. I liked the little flirt glance Morrigan gave Iron Man, as if she knows what kind of dude he is.

 

[louiebling$]

I hope they don't put in a second Wolverine again like in MVC2. I never understood that. That spot could have gone to Thor or one of the Fantastic Four.

Bone Claw Wolverine had a longer reach and more agile/quicker.... Adamantuim Wolverine had a Shorter reach and was slower than Bone Claw but he had more power and inflicted more damage.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

It was still pointless though.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

If Thor is in this, I don't give a **** who else is/isn't.

Thor's a must for me to buy it. Otherwise it's a rental at best.

 

[Havok83]

Bone Claw Wolverine had a longer reach and more agile/quicker.... Adamantuim Wolverine had a Shorter reach and was slower than Bone Claw but he had more power and inflicted more damage.

That would be like them adding Hulk and Red Hulk in this as seperate characters and using speed and power to justify there existence. Very weak at best. I didnt mind the 2 Wolverines bc there were so many characters that it barely made much of a difference

Thor's a must for me to buy it. Otherwise it's a rental at best.

oh you know you'll buy it regardless...lol

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I kind of wish they'd stuck with sprites if it would've allowed a larger roster again. I knew 30+ was smaller than MvC 2, but I didn't remember that it's literally half the roster size of MvC 2.

Oh well, no use crying over it now.

 

[craigdbfan]

Just finished listening to Kotaku live where they had Chris Baker (Marvel Studio's manager of licensed games) on their live stream answering questions.

For those wondering if Spider-Man will be in this game, well he will be.

30 characters are just the current slot number announced but there will be more characters from both Capcom and Marvel revealed at a later time.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

People were actually wondering whether Marvel's most popular character of all time would be in the game?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

hehe yea seriously. As if there would be a Marvel game without Spider-Man.

 

[Havok83]

I kind of wish they'd stuck with sprites if it would've allowed a larger roster again. I knew 30+ was smaller than MvC 2, but I didn't remember that it's literally half the roster size of MvC 2.

Oh well, no use crying over it now.

If you want spirtes then go download MvC2 on the XBL and PSN if you havent already. Either that or look into MUGEN. Theres no need to take a step backwards with this game. No one (well at least the vast majrotiy) wants to see 10 year+ sprites from the 90s. They are making the best graphical decision with modernizing it to capabilities of the technology of today. A minimum of 30 is a healthy and reasonable number. Much better than the original MvC which had about 15 characters, down from ~18 from MSH vs SF

People were actually wondering whether Marvel's most popular character of all time would be in the game?

yeah it was crazy and I tried to calm people down yesterday. Im surprised people were tripping over it.

 

[craigdbfan]

People were actually wondering whether Marvel's most popular character of all time would be in the game?

hehe yea seriously. As if there would be a Marvel game without Spider-Man.

Yeah.

Some thought because Activision had the rights for X-Men and the Spider-Man games that, that would somehow prevent Spidey from being in MVC3.

Baker said "No". Also Disney owning Marvel hasn't changed anything but allowing workers at Marvel free passes to Disneyland (from the mouth of Baker). So don't expect a Mickey Mouse unlockable character.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

If you want spirtes then go download MvC2 on the XBL and PSN if you havent already. Either that or look into MUGEN. Theres no need to take a step backwards with this game. No one (well at least the vast majrotiy) wants to see 10 year+ sprites from the 90s. They are making the best graphical decision with modernizing it to capabilities of the technology of today. A minimum of 30 is a healthy and reasonable number. Much better than the original MvC which had about 15 characters, down from ~18 from MSH vs SF

I wouldn't consider sprites a step backward. It's just a stylistic choice. Capcom made fantastic sprites that still hold up today, even before the HD revamp. Sure, you can't pan around the characters or do any of the 3D bells and whistles, but if the game looks good and plays well, I wouldn't mind choosing to go sprite-based rather than 3D so they can give us a truly mind-boggling number of playable characters.

But like I said, it's a moot point.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

MUGEN is awesome. So clever how those guys make characters from scratch.

You ever played or seen any of the MUGEN stuff Corp? Just search pretty much any character you want and add Mugen on the end on youtube.

Some are better than others, but some of them are friggin awesome.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Never played, but I've seen plenty of it.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea i've never played it either. I downloaded the program once, but found it too complicated to load characters and stages and all that onto there, so gave up.

 

[Jick]

Similar case, here^^
But I managed to play as Carnage. He is fast and violent. An awesome fighter.

 

[Havok83]

I wouldn't consider sprites a step backward. It's just a stylistic choice. Capcom made fantastic sprites that still hold up today, even before the HD revamp. Sure, you can't pan around the characters or do any of the 3D bells and whistles, but if the game looks good and plays well, I wouldn't mind choosing to go sprite-based rather than 3D so they can give us a truly mind-boggling number of playable characters.

But like I said, it's a moot point.

the only whay you'd get those mind boggling number of characters is if they recycled the sprites they made back in the mid to late 90sl which really isnt a feasible option. Sprites would look amazing but only if they used original ones. Sprites take way too much time to develop and if they went that route we'd get even less characters than with the models. Look how many times SSF2HD Remix got delayed. SF IV almsot came out before it, despite it being announced months after. Sprite based games take a long time to create and animate characters bc sprites have to be hand drawn. Its why the last King of Fighters had 20 characters (which redid their graphics) despite the last one having closer to 50 (when they kept recycling the old models)

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I hope they realize what made Marvel vs Capcom 2 so great. The incredibly animated Bengus art.

 

[Nathan]

How To Select Fighting Game Characters The MARVEL Way

With thousands of super heroes to choose from and more than 30 slots to fill, the biggest challenge facing upcoming fighter Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 is likely the roster.

Marvel's Chris Baker said the process involved quite a bit of back and forth and weighed everything from a character's fighting style and potential special attacks to his or her popularity and even physical height.

"We are very involved in character selection," said Baker, who helps to oversee Marvel licensing for video games. "Very early on (Capcom) came to us and said we would like to use these characters. We took a look at the list. Almost all of the choices they had are great, they know the characters very well."

But, Baker said, there were a lot of things to keep in mind when filling out that roster.

"The basis for character selection in any fighting game is a nice balance of this guy is a brute, this guy is really scrappy, this guy shoots laser beams," Baker said. "Making sure you have all sorts of variety, different sizes of characters and then looking at popularity and relevance. And then there are some characters you may not necessarily think of right away that just lend themselves really well to a fighting game."

So Marvel, scouring through their more than 5,000 characters, went back to Marvel with some of their own choices.

Baker was very coy in talking with Kotaku about who might or might not make the final cut for the game. He did tell us that the roster, while nearing completion, is still not finalized. He also explained some of the things that Marvel looks at when deciding which sorts of characters they would want in a game.

"There are absolutely characters that will be much more relavent in the next few years and you want to get them in there," Baker said. "There are characters that have become a lot more popular since the last Marvel Vs. Capcom game, that weren't in there that we wanted to get in there. There are characters that have been invented in the last ten years that we may want to get in there."

While I wasn't able to squeeze any more names of characters out of Baker, he hinted that more names would be coming in the next few months.

"Think of upcoming gaming and comic events," he said. "We have a year and want to keep you interested, but I don't think the news will be coming one character at a time."

After much browbeating I was able to half-confirm one character who likely won't be in the game: Lady Bova. That's right, Scarlet Witch's cow nanny won't be a "core character" in the game.

Once a character makes the cut, Capcom begins working up how they will look in the game, another tricky process that included a lot of Marvel feedback.

"My job is to ensure that the characters are in line with what they should be at a very base level," Baker said. "Making sure that their looks are modern."

For example, Marvel Vs. Capcom 3's Wolverine is a much different beast than the Wolverine of the last Marvel Vs. Capcom game. In Marvel Vs. Capcom 2, Wolverine had what Baker described as a "90s look" with exaggerated "ear things" and impractical boots.

"Now his costume plays down the ear thing, the boots are more practical, but it's still the classic yellow and blue costume everyone loves," Baker said. "So basically our job is to kind of steer them in that direction: 'This is what we are doing with the characters now (in comics), this is how we want you to present it in the game.'"

The Hulk, Baker said, is a character design very much born of Capcom's "artistry".

"Their Hulk is pretty unique," he said. "There are definitely issues of comics you could compare him to. He may not look like the Hulk of today, but that's OK."

Once a character's base look is nailed down the two teams begin work on figuring out the character's moves and special attacks.

"They do all of the mechanics, we're not game developers at Marvel we are the licencors, we know our games but it's Capcom that is developing this game," Baker said. "Fortunately, they do their research and they generally know their characters very well. Every once in awhile there will be a special move that's like, 'Hmm, maybe you should change that to this.' Or maybe they are leaving out a really great move that we think should be in there.

"That's why we are here, to make sure Wolverine isn't shooting lasers out of his claws, to use an extreme example."

Kotaku

 

[craigdbfan]

I hope they realize what made Marvel vs Capcom 2 so great. The incredibly animated Bengus art.

Exactly.

These bulky shadowy designs are "alright".

I hope the finalized models with the proper lighting and what not will look much better.

But Capcom usually gets it right with its fighters especially with a beloved franchise like this one.

 

[terry78]

Drill claw!

Tornado claw!

BERZERKA BARRAAAAAGE!

 

[terry78]

Drill claw!

Tornado claw!

BERZERKA BARRAAAAAGE!