Mass Effect 3

[Soapy]

Link to this 'truth' thing? or cliff notes?

Spoiler

 

[zenith16]

I wouldn't say the free part guarantees it's fake. Unlikely? Sure. But it's not like devs literally never release DLC for free. Heck, even EA released Dead Space 2 DLC for free...even though it was only multiplayer content.

Not saying I believe it, either. Just sayin'.

that's true they let you have a certain amount of it to be free for a while to a certain due date and the final part of f the latter dLc they have you pay. But they allow you to have certain satisfiable amount free.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I wouldn't say the free part guarantees it's fake. Unlikely? Sure. But it's not like devs literally never release DLC for free. Heck, even EA released Dead Space 2 DLC for free...even though it was only multiplayer content.

Not saying I believe it, either. Just sayin'.

Not responding to you specifically but just thinking out loud here.

To create fully incorporated new endings into the game, especially ones as extensive as some people seem to be asking for, will be expensive. They will need to get voice actors back, writers, level designers, QA testers, art designers etc.

The idea that they won't charge for that DLC, especially when EA can be sure damn well that people will be forking over cash for it en masse seems a bit... overly optimistic.

 

[Soapy]

What would a free "Truth" ending do anyway other than inform the public that they(Bioware) were wrong? I'm sorry I don't see any creative personality going back on their work because whiney gamers feel they should. I see it being more along the lines of, 'fine, you want a new ending we'll give ya one, but you're going to have to pay for it'.

No way in hell is any "true" ending going to be free.

There are more reasons to release a "true" ending than just to appease the outrage. For instance, releasing the "real" ending as DLC is something they could have planned from the very beginning, which is scummy as all hell and if that were actually the case I would be done with Bioware forever, but...hey, it's a way to go.

 

[Balthus Dire]

What would a free "Truth" ending do anyway other than inform the public that they(Bioware) were wrong? I'm sorry I don't see any creative personality going back on their work because whiney gamers feel they should. I see it being more along the lines of, 'fine, you want a new ending we'll give ya one, but you're going to have to pay for it'.

No way in hell is any "true" ending going to be free.

Good Lord, man...why is it so hard to comprehend that Bioware might've planned something like this all along? In which case, it wouldn't be "informing the public that they were wrong" whatsoever.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Good Lord, man...why is it so hard to comprehend that Bioware might've planned something like this all along? In which case, it wouldn't be "informing the public that they were wrong" whatsoever.

Who the hell DELIBERATELY holds out the true information? This isn't a weapons pack or something, this is the ending to the series. You whine about the bad endings but you dont have a problem with them withholding the "true" ending to release as DLC later? Im sorry, thats just stupid.

I mean maybe you are right, this was planned from the start, but like Soapy stated, thats beyond scummy and is setting a dangerous precedent moving forward.

 

[Donut]

Good Lord, man...why is it so hard to comprehend that Bioware might've planned something like this all along? In which case, it wouldn't be "informing the public that they were wrong" whatsoever.

It would say that Bioware released an INCOMPLETE GAME. If the first DLC is ending related in any way

 

[zenith16]

if this was put up by some else prior my apologies
Mass Effect 3 Director Didn’t Want You To Forget The Game’s Ending





Casey Hudson, the Director and Executive Producer of Mass Effect 3, has spoken with Digital Trends about the game’s controversial ending sequences, and how it was BioWare’s intent all along to “polarise reaction”. More »


source: kotaku.

but as this article says theres new “really great single-player content” that’s coming as future downloadable content. just though you should know. if you did already again my apologies.

 

[DeGenerate10]

Yesss, ignore the truth! Which is what the now-rumoured DLC is titled.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9921067/1




And I'm assuming 1000 more since you pointed that out.

Currently at 25,911 so it was close

 

[Benstamania]

Edit.

 

[Benstamania]

Spoiler

Cool. I'll take it.. Or buy it.. But I'm also not complaining about the current ending either.

I expected post ending DLC. That's actually my preference DLC. See Dragon Age and F3.

 

[X Knight]

they will release a DLC that will reveal that the entire ME story is nothing but a hallucination..........of the Grey Warden from Dragon Age: Origins!!

 

[Donut]

Cool. I'll take it.. Or buy it.. But I'm also not complaining about the current ending either.

I expected post ending DLC. That's actually my preference DLC. See Dragon Age and F3.

That DLC better be free. Because they released a half assed incomplete game

 

[Benstamania]

You're taking it to extremes. The game isn't half ass.. And clocking in at 40+ hours isn't incomplete.

Just because the endings get you all riled up doesn't mean it's "incomplete".

Go play that recently X-Men game... Then come back and talk about things being incomplete.

 

[Benstamania]

they will release a DLC that will reveal that the entire ME story is nothing but a hallucination..........of the Grey Warden from Dragon Age: Origins!!

And then we'll see Wrex playing Dragon Age Origins and everyone will demand a redo.

 

[TX85]

That DLC better be free. Because they released a half assed incomplete game

I understand hating on the ending,But you think the rest of the game is half assed&incomplete?..You must have very very very high expectations!

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

You're taking it to extremes. The game isn't half ass.. And clocking in at 40+ hours isn't incomplete.

Just because the endings get you all riled up doesn't mean it's "incomplete".

Go play that recently X-Men game... Then come back and talk about things being incomplete.

I agree, the endings got bungled, the last 5 minutes being lackluster do not undo what until then was a fantastic game. I also don't buy any of this Ending DLC was planned from the start nonsense.

There's a reason the game [BLACKOUT] drops you back to prior the battle for Earth [/BLACKOUT] and BW has never mandated that you play the endings for any of their dlcs in the past, even when it would have made more sense.

Now maybe there will be something that customers have shown that there is a demand for it, but I don't think that whatever they release is going to replace the ending currently in place.

 

[smashmode]

Spoiler

Dammmnnnn

 

[Balthus Dire]

Who the hell DELIBERATELY holds out the true information? This isn't a weapons pack or something, this is the ending to the series. You whine about the bad endings but you dont have a problem with them withholding the "true" ending to release as DLC later? Im sorry, thats just stupid.

I mean maybe you are right, this was planned from the start, but like Soapy stated, thats beyond scummy and is setting a dangerous precedent moving forward.

This is what matters most to me and I'm glad you included it...I'm not bothered by people's opinions whatsoever, if you like the end or don't like the end that's fine; if you think Bioware would be stupid for faking the ending or if you think it's a great idea, that's fine. But until Bioware releases a statement, none of us know for sure. That's all I'm saying, and that it seems overly dismissive to just say "Well they wouldn't do THAT because it'd be dumb!"

Also not saying I completely agree with it. Like you and Soapy, I think it could either come off as a dastardly move and a new low in gaming OR a brilliant achievement in immersive storytelling. It's a fine line between the two, and depending on how Bioware approaches it (if it ends up being true) it could go either way IMO.

Like many, I'd just like some kind of answer. Even if it's "This is it, guys." At least then people could just get over it and move on.

 

[Balthus Dire]

they will release a DLC that will reveal that the entire ME story is nothing but a hallucination..........of the Grey Warden from Dragon Age: Origins!!

That would explain the Darkspawn statue in Kasumi's mission in ME2; I think you're onto something!! MYSTERY SOLVED!!!!!!! BIOWARE ARE CREATIVE GENIUSES!!!

 

[TX85]

This is what matters most to me and I'm glad you included it...I'm not bothered by people's opinions whatsoever, if you like the end or don't like the end that's fine; if you think Bioware would be stupid for faking the ending or if you think it's a great idea, that's fine. But until Bioware releases a statement, none of us know for sure. That's all I'm saying, and that it seems overly dismissive to just say "Well they wouldn't do THAT because it'd be dumb!"

Also not saying I completely agree with it. Like you and Soapy, I think it could either come off as a dastardly move and a new low in gaming OR a brilliant achievement in immersive storytelling. It's a fine line between the two, and depending on how Bioware approaches it (if it ends up being true) it could go either way IMO.

Like many, I'd just like some kind of answer. Even if it's "This is it, guys." At least then people could just get over it and move on.

Agreed 100%,I already got over it&moved on But I agree!!

 

[Harriet Tubman]

It sounds like, if this "Truth" DLC is real, Bioware was upset over the leak in November, and when they changed the ending, they realized that they didn't have enough time to finish it by March. Rather than delay it again, they finished what they could, knowing they could/would release the next part of the ending via DLC (possibly free). I don't have a major problem with this, taking into account that it is well known that they changed the entire ending after the leak.

 

[smashmode]

It sounds like, if this "Truth" DLC is real, Bioware was upset over the leak in November, and when they changed the ending, they realized that they didn't have enough time to finish it by March. Rather than delay it again, they finished what they could, knowing they could/would release the next part of the ending via DLC (possibly free). I don't have a major problem with this, taking into account that it is well known that they changed the entire ending after the leak.

Is there a reason why they won't come out and say that?

 

[DeGenerate10]

This is what someone wrote on Facebook as they defend the ending.

Spoiler

I figured out how the "War Asset System" works and why you and everyone that is mad about not getting to see all you options in a cut scene need to get over it!

The War Asset System and what cut scenes (not talking about the main thre...e cut scenes) you get goes by what ME2 option you picked when it came to either saving the Collector Base or destroying it. Now for all options you pick and do in ME3 goes into a set of numbers which helps your "War Asset" and which cut scenes you get before the final three option cut scenes. For me my War Asset number was 6000+; but all you need was 5000+... and the reason Bioware add that extra 1000+ was for people that didn't play ME 2 cause those ppl wouldn't have the DLC and characters from ME 2 that I saved and did which would add to my war asset numbers!

But here is as follows how the number system and cut scenes added up:

Collector’s Base Saved:

Readiness Rating < 1750 – Earth is destroyed regardless of whatever decisions you made.
Readiness Rating 1750 – Choose to Save the Reapers and the Earth will be saved.
Readiness Rating 2050 – Choose to become a Reap...er and the Earth will be saved.
Readiness Rating 2350 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Earth is destroyed.
Readiness Rating 2650 – Choose to destroy the Repears and the Earth will be somewhat destroyed
Readiness Rating 2800 – Earth and the Galaxy will be saved once you’re able to create synergy
Readiness Rating 4000 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Save Anderson to see Shepard lives.
Readiness Rating 5000 – Choose to destroy the reapers and not Save Anderson to see Shepard lives.

Collector’s Base Destroyed in ME2

Readiness Rating < 1750 – Earth is destroyed regardless of whatever decisions you made.
Readiness Rating 1750 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be destroyed.
Readiness Rating 1900 – Choose to ...destroy the Repears and the Earth will be somewhat -destroyed
Readiness Rating 2350 – Choose to become a Reaper and the Earth will be saved.
Readiness Rating 2650 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Earth will be saved.
Readiness Rating 2800 – Earth and the Galaxy will be saved once you’re able to create synergy
Readiness Rating 4000 – Choose to destroy the Reapers and Save Anderson to see Shepard lives.
Readiness Rating 5000 – Choose to destroy the reapers and not Save Anderson to see Shepard lives.

The programmers may very well been able to give you a cut scene to every option you did in ME3 but lets be real here, the mathematical equations would have been nuts!

So stop being mad about this part just because you found something on a planet you scanned and it didn't show up in a cut scene.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Also not saying I completely agree with it. Like you and Soapy, I think it could either come off as a dastardly move and a new low in gaming OR a brilliant achievement in immersive storytelling. It's a fine line between the two, and depending on how Bioware approaches it (if it ends up being true) it could go either way IMO.

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Well I'm screwed either way, cuz I'm buying whatever they put out. New ending, withheld ending, it doesnt matter. I want MOREZ MASS EFFECT.

Im actually looking forward to some new MP maps. I generally dislike Horde type game modes as i find them to be dull, but dammit this is fun. LOVING my Drell.