Matt Reeves To Direct The Upcoming Batman Solo - Part 2

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Not that I have a problem with Andy Serkis, because I don't, I think he's a good actor. But I'd prefer someone with alittle more of a mean streak to play Penguin... Maybe he has it in him, but I haven't really seen it.

I could definitely see him as Penguin. Put him in make up and such. Penguin has never been one of my favorite villains. The best he's ever been was in BR so that's a character you can take creative liberties with and I don't think there are any Penguin fan zones out there who will care much.

Well, Penguin is my 2nd favorite Batman villain behind Joker, so yeah, I hope we get some kind of adaptation that's somewhat faithful to the character. The major problem I've had with the DCEU so far is how far they've strayed away from the characters traditional looks and characterization...

This characters were popular in the comics for a reason, there is a reason why these characters ended up getting movies made about them... because they are already great the way they are. These movie Directors need to stop trying to fix what's not broken. Make the characters true to who they are in the comics, because they're already interesting... just put them in new stories and situations. That's what is an interesting superhero movie to me... Not crap like Eisenberg and LetoJoker, where they try to reinvent or "modernize" a character that doesn't need fixing... It usually ends up WAY worse...
 

If they're seriously gonna do Gotham City Sirens I wonder if they'll use the same Catwoman as in Reeves film.
 
This characters were popular in the comics for a reason, there is a reason why these characters ended up getting movies made about them... because they are already great the way they are. These movie Directors need to stop trying to fix what's not broken. Make the characters true to who they are in the comics, because they're already interesting... just put them in new stories and situations. That's what is an interesting superhero movie to me... Not crap like Eisenberg and LetoJoker, where they try to reinvent or "modernize" a character that doesn't need fixing... It usually ends up WAY worse...

I can't praise this part of your post enough.

I get that directors don't want to be slaves to the source material (regardless of the format, comics, video games, etc) and would like some creative freedom but some times they go too far and make changes for the sake of change that doesn't end up turning out well. One example that isn't even character based but overall story based is the Assassin's Creed film. Who were the geniuses who felt 70+% of the film should be involving the Abstergo s***?? With such a relatively simple concept to adapt they missed sight of why so many fans love those games. Each game you're pretty much in a different era of time having to sneak around and well, assassinate fools. I was baffled as to why they changed the movie so much.
 
We need a thread for news only. Every time this thread gets bumped I get excited. :csad:
 
Then good for him and the actors who had to be in a sloppy first film. I just would prefer this be a stand alone series. Although it was cool seeing Killer Croc in SS looking like his early appearances, I have always preferred the large and more animalistic/monstrous version. I know some hate it but that's always been the one I like the most. That's just one small example out of multiple on why I don't want this connected to the DCEU.

Then you probably should stop carrying about the film because it is.
 
Then you probably should stop carrying about the film because it is.

No it isn't actually. Last time I checked they weren't sure of that and word so far is that it's a stand alone.
 
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I have faith that Andy Serkis could pull off a variety of villains including Penguin.
 
No it isn't actually. Last time I checked they weren't sure of that and word so far is that it's a stand alone.

It isnt a standalone. You can close your eyes and wish for it all you want to but this is not The Joker this will be part of the rest of the universe. It will be just like Wonder Woman and Aquaman there just isnt going to be any crossover for quite some time.

The "DCEU is Dead" crowd is ALMOST as annoying as the Snyderphiles these days.
 
It isnt a standalone. You can close your eyes and wish for it all you want to but this is not The Joker this will be part of the rest of the universe. It will be just like Wonder Woman and Aquaman there just isnt going to be any crossover for quite some time.

The "DCEU is Dead" crowd is ALMOST as annoying as the Snyderphiles these days.
God I'm gonna be so happy when the actors of Alfred and Gordon are announced and we can finally settle this discussion of "Pattinson is TOTALLY a younger version of Ben Affleck." once and for all.
 
I don't know if it'll be a solo or not but how can it be in continuity with the universe in Aquaman and Wonder Woman unless It's 100% a prequel? It's seeming like a complete reboot
 
But they can retcon everything that has happened with Batman in the DCEU and connect this movie with Aquaman, WW, etc. down the line, no? It doesn't have to be "young Ben Affleck".
 
Retcon like saying it was Pattinson's Batman in those films or act like they never existed except for Wonder Woman, Suicide Squad, Aquaman and Shazam?

That's a big ass mess and cluster....
 
It's DC, it's never made sense :hehe:

I think they will just ignore everything. Batman will be it's own corner of the "universe."
 
God I'm gonna be so happy when the actors of Alfred and Gordon are announced and we can finally settle this discussion of "Pattinson is TOTALLY a younger version of Ben Affleck." once and for all.

I feel like that, much like Pattinson being cast instead of a Ben Affleck lookalike, would just be different actors playing the roles, likely younger versions of them, and not really "prove" much of anything in the end about the connectivity, aside from a desire to distance this franchise from another one.

People keep obsessing over this. This is obviously going to be a younger Batman at a different place in his career and a difference place in his psychology, and we're likely never going to see Pattinson's Batman get to the point that Affleck's Batman did for obvious reasons, but I wouldn't be surprised to see PatBat "tested" in ways that were hinted at in BVS. That kind of conflict is central to the Batman character. Nor would I be surprised to see hints that this is taking place before events of the "current" DCEU, so that they can bring his Batman or another actor as Batman into the fold of a shared universe later on if this is successful. That doesn't mean that they HAVE to connect the two versions, or show one growing into the other.

I get that comic fans are concerned with whether this Batman will be connected to a version of the character who kills and maims, but the average general audience member probably won't care whether he kills or doesn't, or is shown as someone who turns out to be someone who does,and so the studio, much like they didn't really address Batman's brutal behavior in BVS in JUSTICE LEAGUE, probably won't plan on mentioning or addressing that particular issue in future films, either.

That doesn't mean they won't explore this version of the character's feelings about killing in an effort to "correct" the presentation and perception of the character. But I also have a hard time seeing them casting Pattinson to play a squeaky clean purely heroic version of the character.
 
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That's why I'm lowkey hoping for 60 year olds that look nothing like Simmons or Irons to be cast as Alfred and Gordon.
 
It isnt a standalone. You can close your eyes and wish for it all you want to but this is not The Joker this will be part of the rest of the universe. It will be just like Wonder Woman and Aquaman there just isnt going to be any crossover for quite some time.

The "DCEU is Dead" crowd is ALMOST as annoying as the Snyderphiles these days.

Which articles or interviews have confirmed this? Genuinely asking because I guess I didn't come across any official statements about it in the past.
 
If castings get announced for The Waynes including a young Bruce..it a solo!

If we hear that the flashback scenes from BvS will be in this then yeah it's a connected prequel
 
It can be connected without them referencing anything that happened in BvS or Justice League. It doesnt even have to be a prequel you just forget and move on. It can still be 100% its own thing while still being part of the universe as a whole.

Its basic logic...they arent ditching the old (as seen in movies recently released and those filming now) and they arent going to have DCEU without a Batman. They arent going to have 2 different Batmen running around in films so yeah this is it.
 
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