MCU: The Marvel Cinematic Universe Official Discussion - Part 3

[spiderman2]

Maybe I need to give the MCU another shot one of these days.

It's not even that I dislike them really. I like the movies, it's just that I've never had the desire to watch any of them again after my first viewing like some other series. (apart from IM and CA:TFA).

Yeah I don't find the MCU has good has a lot of people.

Iron man ok/ kind of bad most overrated CBM by a country mile.
Iron man 2 ok/kind of bad
Iron man 3 kind of good by far the best of the 3
cap 1 ok
cap 2 amazing
thor 1 ok
thor 2 ok
avengers good but far form great and way overrated
GOTG great characters kind of good but lame story and villains.
Incredible hulk I never saw it

So out of the 10 I have seen 9 of them and only 1/9 was great only 2/9 where kind of good, 1/9 good and 5/9 ok to kind of bad

 

[Knight_SV]

The real test of popularity for MCU will come in 2017 i think, in the form of justice league movie. Marvel have GOtG 2, Spiderman and Thor Ragnarok to deal with JL. But it is Thor Ragnarok whom will facing JL head-to-head.
In years to come marvel could come with recast of entire hero line-up or developing and giving more spotlight to new faces like Spiderman, Black Panther, Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel and Inhumans, there still also the netflix heroes like Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Jessica Jones. In my opinion i choose the later.

 

[Spiderine]

When you rate a lot of the individual films some of them are not that great alone. But I don't think thats the point of what makes it successful. Audiences are loving the connection of all the films with each other. They continue a story arc that spans across the films in different ways. That climaxed with Avengers and now people want to see each character's adventure carry on in some capacity till the next ensemble. Its just something thats never been done to this extent in cinema.

 

[BatsDC]

This seems like the best place to ask this - do you think Marvel would be able to introduce another character as the Twins' father, or is that whole element off limits?

 

[Erzengel]

Yeah I don't find the MCU has good has a lot of people.

Iron man ok/ kind of bad most overrated CBM by a country mile.
Iron man 2 ok/kind of bad
Iron man 3 kind of good by far the best of the 3
cap 1 ok
cap 2 amazing
thor 1 ok
thor 2 ok
avengers good but far form great and way overrated
GOTG great characters kind of good but lame story and villains.
Incredible hulk I never saw it

So out of the 10 I have seen 9 of them and only 1/9 was great only 2/9 where kind of good, 1/9 good and 5/9 ok to kind of bad

The general consensus though is:
Cap 2, Avengers, Iron Man and GOTG as great.
Cap 1, Thor and IM 3 as good.
Thor 2, IM2 and IH2 as average at worst.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Fair.

 

[DACrowe]

I will posit do you think anyone really cares that much about the older MCU films? To rephrase, as we are rocketing to the end of Phase 2, other than The Avengers, do you go back and watch much of Phase 1 or know anybody still talking about how great Thor or The Incredible Hulk were?

I feel like there is an inherent disposability with these films that makes it hard to rank, because while none of them are bad, the quality control also ensures almost none of them stand out as something special either.

 

[Greens]

I feel like there is an inherent disposability with these films that makes it hard to rank, because while none of them are bad, the quality control also ensures almost none of them stand out as something special either.

Exactly. People like to call the Marvel movies consistent in their quality and they are, but they're not consistently excellent.

When I think about great Marvel films, I think Iron Man and The Avengers.

 

[Spiderine]

This seems like the best place to ask this - do you think Marvel would be able to introduce another character as the Twins' father, or is that whole element off limits?

Marvel can do whatever they want with their versions of the twins. They can introduce someone else as the father if they want.

 

[Erzengel]

I will posit do you think anyone really cares that much about the older MCU films? To rephrase, as we are rocketing to the end of Phase 2, other than The Avengers, do you go back and watch much of Phase 1 or know anybody still talking about how great Thor or The Incredible Hulk were?

I feel like there is an inherent disposability with these films that makes it hard to rank, because while none of them are bad, the quality control also ensures almost none of them stand out as something special either.

Iron Man, I feel is top tier. Thor and Cap, I'd put on the level of X-Men, First Class and BB.

 

[hoy-small-fry]

This seems like the best place to ask this - do you think Marvel would be able to introduce another character as the Twins' father, or is that whole element off limits?

There's really no need. I imagine we'll find out their father was killed by Stark Tech, and we'll just move on

 

[BatsDC]

I wouldn't mind us getting a character to substitute for Magneto, dependant on how it was done.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

This seems like the best place to ask this - do you think Marvel would be able to introduce another character as the Twins' father, or is that whole element off limits?

The Twins had a lot of different parents over the last 50 years. they just have to reference an era when Magneto wasn't supposed to be their father.

 

[ernesth100]

I'm just worried about Ant-Man. I like the character and I'll definitely see the movie but I'm not sure if the general audience will be as interested.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I'm just worried about Ant-Man. I like the character and I'll definitely see the movie but I'm not sure if the general audience will be as interested.

It'll do fine, especially since it comes from "the studio that bought you the Avengers, Iron Man, Guardians of the Galaxy, Thor and Captain America."

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

I'm just worried about Ant-Man. I like the character and I'll definitely see the movie but I'm not sure if the general audience will be as interested.

the two words 'Marvel Studios' on the promotion material basically guarantees success right now

 

[Mr.M]

If it is generic, I don't see it doing big numbers. Looks extremely generic from the first trailer. I'm gonna say it tops out at around 400 to 450. Closer to 400 I'd say. Don't see the international market rushing to that one.

 

[Lilbaz]

If it is generic, I don't see it doing big numbers. Looks extremely generic from the first trailer. I'm gonna say it tops out at around 400 to 450. Closer to 400 I'd say. Don't see the international market rushing to that one.

Marvel are safe films that Parents can take their kids to see knowing that they wont be bored. This means that it will make a lot of money.

 

[Flint Marko]

If it is generic, I don't see it doing big numbers. Looks extremely generic from the first trailer. I'm gonna say it tops out at around 400 to 450. Closer to 400 I'd say. Don't see the international market rushing to that one.

I don't exactly disagree, but even then that would be considered a success.
I'm already preparing myself for the dozens of posters here who will call it "Marvel's first flop" because it doesn't light up the box office like Guardians of the Galaxy did. For the record, 400 million would still undeniably be a financial success and make Marvel a decent profit on an obscure, off the wall character that I think has less mass appeal than any other recent superhero movie.

 

[Spiderine]

If AOU does enough to tease or tie in to Antman then it will do fine. It could very well get the "Avengers boost" because of related/continual story.

If Antman does very close to 200 mil domestic then I see that as a freaking success. Anything beyond that is a smash hit.

 

[BatsDC]

Yet people will still claim it to be a failure regardless of the gross.

 

[Steamteck]

I will posit do you think anyone really cares that much about the older MCU films? To rephrase, as we are rocketing to the end of Phase 2, other than The Avengers, do you go back and watch much of Phase 1 or know anybody still talking about how great Thor or The Incredible Hulk were?

I feel like there is an inherent disposability with these films that makes it hard to rank, because while none of them are bad, the quality control also ensures almost none of them stand out as something special either.

Yes I do, more than most of the movies I own. I still think Thor in your example was pretty great. Its up there with Blade on my rewatch meter

Hulk was kind the least of the first wave to me but I still watch it on occasion.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I will posit do you think anyone really cares that much about the older MCU films? To rephrase, as we are rocketing to the end of Phase 2, other than The Avengers, do you go back and watch much of Phase 1 or know anybody still talking about how great Thor or The Incredible Hulk were?

I feel like there is an inherent disposability with these films that makes it hard to rank, because while none of them are bad, the quality control also ensures almost none of them stand out as something special either.

I watch the phase 1 films all the time, so I don't agree with this at all.

 

[Quasimod0]

The Phase 1 films are excellent. If they had not worked out as well as they did, we wouldnt even have these great new Phase 2 films.
And in my opinion, Thor's phase 1 movie was better than his phase 2 one.

 

[Iceman]

I don't rewatch TFA much unless it's part of a MCU marathon. Anytime I go to put that disc in I just stick TWS in instead.