MCU: The Marvel Cinematic Universe Official Discussion - Part 3

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You know what would be really cool? If in a scene of Thor Ragnarok. Thanos comes to Asgard and beats the **** out of Thor and takes the gem. Thor coming to Earth battered and beaten to see the Avengers and tell them about Thanos.
 
That idea seems familiar...

I'm happy the idea is catching support. I hope something similar to this is in the works.
 
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The finishing line isn't Earth, the finishing line is the stones. That a stone is on Earth in the possession of an Avenger is coincidental. The fact is Earth will be destroyed if Thanos succeeds. It doesn't matter if it is kept in pristine condition or not. And even if it is smashed, the power of the gauntlet will repair any damage the same as it will resurrect fallen heroes.
 
Ok, but what does that have to do my assertion that the Avengers could be taking the fight to space in Infinity War and possibly have the final stone debut?
 
How do they know where to go? How do they know what they are looking for? How do they get there? Would Vision go, considering he has one stuck in his forehead that would be as good as delivering it to Thanos or would he stay behind and make the story all weird?

Leaving Earth doesn't make sense.
 
How do they know where to go? How do they know what they are looking for? How do they get there? Would Vision go, considering he has one stuck in his forehead that would be as good as delivering it to Thanos or would he stay behind and make the story all weird?

Leaving Earth doesn't make sense.

How am I supposed to know how they know where to go? I haven't seen the movie yet. Seems pretty plausible to me though that if the threat is in space, they might go to space, and considering there are actual space characters being introduced alongside the Avengers and the Infinity trilogy source material also deals with characters going to space and that these are sci-fi stories where space travel has already been proven possible by more than one method that they would.
 
That idea seems familiar...

I'm happy the idea is catching support. I hope something similar to this is in the works.

It does seem familiar. I think it happened in sonething before. I just cant remember what.
 
By the way, everyone here has to admit. We've seen the Avengers fight on Earth so much in both their team ups and solos. Just imagine a fight in Space.

How would they know where to go. Well theres Thor who is possibly going to learn about the gems and Thanos in the process. Theres Scarlet Witch who's visions might help her see Thanos coming. The gems react to each other in someway so I'd imagine Vision himself might be another way to track or find Thanos. If not theres Captain Marvel who's connected with the Kree. The Kree as everyone should know are usually connected to Thanos. Captain Marvel may go into space to stop a alien invasion, find out about Thanos and his whereabouts then go to the Avengers for back up. Doctor Strange is another option his mystical connections can easily help finf Thanos before he comes to Earth for the confrontation. Then there's the Gaurdians themselves, perhaps they encounter Thanos get wrecked and go to the one place they think Thanos would never look Earth(where Peter came from). Encounter thr Avngers and then go back into space to stop him.

How would they know what they are looking for? They're looking for the mad purple guy with a golden glove going around killing people for gems. Half the stuff I metioned above is a way they could find out about Thanos and know what to look for?

How would they get there? Tony Stark is a genius I'm sure he can trick out a quinjet for Space Travel and outfit the Avengers with some device that allows them to breath in space. Wakanda has a highly advanced Space program I believe. Theres always Thor and some Asgardian magic. SHIELD if they ever come back can provide them with the proper tech. Doctor Strange can open a portal for them to go through as well and enchant them so they can breath in space. Theres also Hank Pym for extra brain power of they need it as well

Vision doesnt have to go. Infact it would make sense if they told Vision to stsy back, then as Thanos is beating the heroes senseless Vision comes in anyway for a surprise attack, but it fails and ends up giving Thanos the final gem he needs(lets face it Thanos is gonna get all those gems one way or another).

Leaving Earth to protect it is the wise course of action. Thanos is coming for Visions gem on Earth they will know that and go into space to stop Thanos before he can get the last gem. Possibly a fight on the Moon would make sense. It'd be a fantastic oppurtunity to Introduce Uatu the Watcher as well.
 
How am I supposed to know how they know where to go? I haven't seen the movie yet. Seems pretty plausible to me though that if the threat is in space, they might go to space, and considering there are actual space characters being introduced alongside the Avengers and the Infinity trilogy source material also deals with characters going to space and that these are sci-fi stories where space travel has already been proven possible by more than one method that they would.

That seems like a very basic question you would need to work out before your theory can get off the ground. :rimshot: I crack myself up.

There is only one new space character being introduced and her movie is not until after IWpt1. It seems to me the story you are suggesting of our heroes leaving Earth would happen before the Captain Marvel film is released making for a weird timeline. Also, is Black Panther left behind or something. I can't follow your story.

There has only been two methods of traveling through space: spaceships in Guardians and the BiFrost in Thor. It is likely Asgard in a goner from Ragnarok so the BiFrost is out and the other requires the Guardians to show up on Earth before Thanos which....Nah. How would the Guardians know to come to Earth? Oh, maybe Wakanda space ships. Nope, haven't even seen Wakanda yet.

I'm going to invoke Occam's Razor and take my leave now.
 
That seems like a very basic question you would need to work out before your theory can get off the ground. :rimshot: I crack myself up.

I think this might be your problem. Its not a theory. Its hypothetical, sort of a suggestion or hope, an informed one since the source material sends them to space.

There is only one new space character being introduced and her movie is not until after IWpt1. It seems to me the story you are suggesting of our heroes leaving Earth would happen before the Captain Marvel film is released making for a weird timeline. Also, is Black Panther left behind or something. I can't follow your story.

I'm not actually spinning a story. Captain Marvel doesn't equate at all. I don't what's happening to Black Panther. But the Infinity story arc involved some of the characters staying back to protect the Earth and the other half going to space.

There has only been two methods of traveling through space: spaceships in Guardians and the BiFrost in Thor. It is likely Asgard in a goner from Ragnarok so the BiFrost is out and the other requires the Guardians to show up on Earth before Thanos which....Nah. How would the Guardians know to come to Earth? Oh, maybe Wakanda space ships. Nope, haven't even seen Wakanda yet.

I don't see why Asgard is automatically a goner. I'm willing to bet that movie will be about Thor stopping Ragnarok. Even if Ragnarok comes true, Ragnraok is a cycle. It destroys Asgard and then rebuilds it.

I don't know why the Guardians would come to Earth. Me or you not knowing does not preclude it from happening, though.

I'm going to invoke Occam's Razor and take my leave now.

Occam's Razor has nothing to do with it. Occam's Razor rarely is useful when it comes to comic books. It says gamma radiation will give you cancer not Hulk powers. I'm just thinking about the possibilities. All of your issues seem like they would have pretty easily depicted resolution over the course 6 or so movies.
 
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I think this might be your problem. Its not a theory. Its hypothetical, sort of a suggestion or hope, an informed one since the source material sends them to space.

http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-the-difference-between-a-theory-and-a-hypothesis.htm

Your hypothesis has been weighed and measured and found wanting. Also, this aint the comics.

I'm not actually spinning a story. Captain Marvel doesn't equate at all. I don't what's happening to Black Panther. But the Infinity story arc involved some of the characters staying back to protect the Earth and the other half going to space.

Did no one tell you that "It's all connected"? If your hypothesis doesn't not include the facts that we know then it is not a good hypothesis and should be discarded immediately. It's not worth your time...or mine.

And what good is staying back to protect the Earth when the guy can destroy the universe with a thought?

I don't see why Asgard is automatically a goner. I'm willing to bet that movie will be about Thor stopping Ragnarok. Even if Ragnarok comes true, Ragnraok is a cycle. It destroys Asgard and then rebuilds it.

If you mean stopping Ragnarok by not dying, then yes, I agree. If you think Ragnarok is just going to reset Asgard with no repercussions then I ask, what's the point? I mean seriously, like, seriously.

I don't know why the Guardians would come to Earth. Me or you not knowing does not preclude it from happening, though.

That's a helluva detour. Them following Thanos to Earth is a more plausible story than them coming here just cuz.

Occam's Razor has nothing to do with it. Occam's Razor rarely is useful when it comes to comic books. It says gamma radiation will give you cancer not Hulk powers. I'm just thinking about the possibilities. All of your issues seem like they would have pretty easily depicted resolution over the course 6 or so movies.

Yeah because Spiderman is going to focus on the Infinity Stones, right? RIGHT? And Thanos is totes showing up in Civil War, probably on Cap's side. He wouldn't be for registration either, kinda strikes me as a bit of an anarchist. Six movies are not going to focus on the Infinity Stones, I don't even know why you would say that.

I've wasted too much of my time now on your hypothetical. Good Day.
 
Even if Marvel had the rights to Silver Surfer, he is a nobody in the current MCU. "As powerful as he is" means nothing. Mar-Vell coming to Earth wouldn't have much impact either. Thor returning and saying Thanos just demolished Asgard and killed Odin would have impact.

It does seem familiar. I think it happened in sonething before. I just cant remember what.

I just wanted to point out that the idea of Thanos knocking off Odin and Thor returning to Earth was my idea from Nov. 17, 2014. Give credit where credit is due.
 
Okay, i didnt know you said that. Credit given. But I think something similar to that happened in a cartoon or movie once. This is gonna drive me mad for ever.
 
It's an idea that's popped up in several places so it's hard to say who came up with it first, and that person still wouldn't be the origin of every other person thinking of it.
 
It's weird how different a film can feel after a second viewing compared to the first time. When I watched Avengers: Age of Ultron at the cinema, I absolutely loved it. It felt like one of the best MCU films to me. I couldn't understand how the verdict could be so mixed for the film.

Now, having watched it for the second time, a couple of months after the premiere, I have to say that I sadly do not appreciate the film as much as I first did. I'm starting to wondering if I was simply so hyped for the film that it blurred my senses the first time. No, I don't think it's a bad movie now, but watching it again it striked me as oddly mediocre. I felt so sense of tension and things at stake this time around. The pace felt rushed. The evolution of Ultron was too hastily done. It would have been nice to at least get to see him create his new body that we first see in the temple (that could have made for a cool scene actually, having those Iron Legion drones build it). There was a lot of forced exposition. Sometimes less is more, I don't want characters to explain things in a way that too obviously is for the audience and not a natural conversation between the characters. Ultron was not nearly as cool as I remembered him as. He never really had the upper hand against the team. Even the CGI brought the film down a bit for me. The very first action scene is an example where it looked bad enough for me to be taken out of the experience. And a problem I even had the first time - how the final act is about the team vs. hordes of CGI drones - still stands.

Also, am I the only one getting sick of the Tony face cam being overused. Like, everytime he might make any kind of expression they cut to his face inside of the helmet.

Vision is totally awesome though and might become a favourite member in my eyes. I'm super excited to see him in coming films.

While it's definitely not a bad film in my eyes, I'm feeling relief because of the Russo brothers continuing the franchise from now on. Hopefully they will balance the tone better, so that things can feel at stake and the tension not be drowned in witty jokes. Obviously there should be humour, but not so much that it sacrifices any kind of excitement. I hope Civil War will have a tone similar to The Winter Soldier.

Why am I bringing this up here and not just in the AoU section? Well, as I said, I hope Marvel Studios tones down the witty banter a little bit in their coming films. I'm starting to feel that we've had too much of that now. Granted, Guardians of the Galaxy is a great film and while I haven't seen Ant-Man myself, I've heard some great stuff about that one as well. Still, I want more The Winter Soldier and less Thor: The Dark World or Iron Man 3. I want to see villains that feel like threats so that when the heroes overcome them, I can feel at awe. I have high hopes for The Russos to make a great big screen villain of Baron Zemo.
 
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It's an idea that's popped up in several places so it's hard to say who came up with it first, and that person still wouldn't be the origin of every other person thinking of it.

I only read these boards so if the idea has been elsewhere then great. That's also why I referenced my original quote and timestamp. While I haven't posted the idea a lot, I have done it several times over the last 10 months so maybe you saw my posts on the subject then and are just referring back to me.

All I was looking for was an acknowledgement that I had posted the idea yesterday morning but ernesth100 rolls in and presents the idea like it's his, hence why I posted the response "That idea seems familiar..." I don't read the comics so when I come up with an idea that receives a positive response from the comic-reading community I get the warm fuzzies. Everyone likes positive reinforcement. Maybe I should feel flattered regardless of acknowledgement. I guess I just don't like people stealing my uhh...thunder.
 
So in my spare time I've launched a website dedicated to Marvel films, and the genre of comic book movies as a whole. You can find it at www.MCUunmasked.com. Let me know what you guys think, there's not a lot of content on there at the moment, but there will be in the next few weeks.
 
So in my spare time I've launched a website dedicated to Marvel films, and the genre of comic book movies as a whole. You can find it at www.MCUunmasked.com. Let me know what you guys think, there's not a lot of content on there at the moment, but there will be in the next few weeks.

Very cool I love sites like this. Looking forward to more content.
 
So in my spare time I've launched a website dedicated to Marvel films, and the genre of comic book movies as a whole. You can find it at www.MCUunmasked.com. Let me know what you guys think, there's not a lot of content on there at the moment, but there will be in the next few weeks.

Cool stuff.:up:
 
Can I just express my general love for the entire MCU cast from Agents of SHIELD and Agent Carter through all the Movies. Seriously. It's a group of people who all enjoy what they do and working together. They just need to get all the casts together and have a MarvelCon.
 
So in my spare time I've launched a website dedicated to Marvel films, and the genre of comic book movies as a whole. You can find it at www.MCUunmasked.com. Let me know what you guys think, there's not a lot of content on there at the moment, but there will be in the next few weeks.
This is awesome! Great idea!
 
What a Great time to be a Marvel fan. In the next 8 months we have:

Tuesday - Agents of Shield Season 3
November - Jessica Jones launches on netflix
January - Agent Carter season 2 starts
March - Agents of Shield returns with most likely a build up to Civil War
April - Daredevil Season 2 most likely debuts with Elektra and The Punisher making their MCU debuts!
May - Captain America:Civil War

I know not everyone likes everything Marvel but for those of us who do follow all things Marvel, variety is the spice of life.
 
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