New Mutants New Mutants News and Discussion - Part 1

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Only certain people involved know certain things at certain times, it's imperative to wait until a larger group is aware of things before you go blabbing about them, otherwise you could be easily singled out and well, that would be bad.

Then why'd you say what you did? I don't know how saying "he's still director but not running the show anymore" protects anyone besides your ability to save face if reputable sources contradict you.
 
Bill Sienkiewicz is just doing what he's been told to do, nothing wrong with that. He is right about one thing being bs though, and that's the guy saying I said JB had been fired. I never said he had been fired. He's still employed as the director in an attempt for Fox to save face. He's just not running the show anymore.

is the person running the show Simon Kinberg?
 
Hi everyone. Been lurking around here for a looooong time lol. Finally decided to join in partly because of this "insider" thing. Here's my 2 cents:


Alright, I don't mean to be rude to anyone but don't you guys think that blindly believing Slugzilla's stroies is kinda...unwise? I mean, I can see why some users like Psylockolossus believe him (I guess pretty easy to mislead him, after all he is the one who accused Fox for "forgetting" to give Deadpool 2 a title) but why do everybody else are so quick to believe him as well?
I remember back in 2013, there was a guy who shared some big spoilers for The Amazing Spider-Man 2, such as Goblin breaking Gwen's neck, manhole scene being the final shot of the film etc, like 9 months before it's release (and no, it wasn't TeeKay), and people immediately started calling him a liar. That guy, if I recall correctly, had a long history with SSH, he had been posting some spoilers for other movies before TASM2 which turned out to be real as well.
Now, there's Slugzilla. What he did exactly to confirm his words and make you believe him? He hadn't posted for 9 years and his recent comments about this movie sound completely unbelievable.
1) Sentinels were supposed to be in it? Like what, this movie was supposed to be a 150-180 mill R-Rated film (which is already a really hard to believe) and that Boone was like "Nah, I don't need that money, give me less"?
2) That script he posted sounded like some fanfiction. Sentinels destroying buildings and landing on people thus killing them and their neighbours were watching it and were like "Yeaaah, go Sentinels!"?
3) His comments about Warlock being in the movie when it was said by Boone that he hopes to introduce the character in the sequel.
4) And now he claims that Laura is in the movie as well and he already met DK the other day.... Now that sounds completely ridiculous.

Once again, I'm not trying to offend anyone but that doesn't sound real to me at all. If he could provide some proof for his words that would be a totally different thing but the fact that he mentioned reshoots a couple of days before the official statement doesn't say much to me.

A. the teaser is mediocre
B. It doesn't feel like the New Mutants
C. It moved to 2019 after just 3 months before release

The film is deep trouble! Between people who are doing PR twisting and an insider who's spilling the tea. I think I'll prefer to listen to the latter.
 
A. the teaser is mediocre
B. It doesn't feel like the New Mutants
C. It moved to 2019 after just 3 months before release

The film is deep trouble! Between people who are doing PR twisting and an insider who's spilling the tea. I think I'll prefer to listen to the latter.

A. For you
B. Go rub a New Mutants comic on your face if you want to feel it so much.
C. That's your only point.
 
A. the teaser is mediocre
B. It doesn't feel like the New Mutants
C. It moved to 2019 after just 3 months before release
....Interesting. And what exactly do these points have to do with what I've said?
The teaser was mediocre sure, but that was only a teaser.
Thor Ragnarok didn't feel like Thor Ragnarok at all and was unfaithful not only to the comics but the previous Thor/The Avengers movies as well. It didn't stop you from loving it.

The film is deep trouble! Between people who are doing PR twisting and an insider who's spilling the tea. I think I'll prefer to listen to the latter.
Oh, definitely! No one's denying that! We are probably in for an another Trank/F4 situation here. But my point is I just don't see how any problem this movie has make Slugzilla's "insider" thing a credible source.
 
You believe the film is in deep trouble but are concerned with posters believing this inside information. OK.
 
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Then why'd you say what you did? I don't know how saying "he's still director but not running the show anymore" protects anyone besides your ability to save face if reputable sources contradict you.

I have my reasons for stating and or not stating things at any particular time. And as far as me trying to "save face if reputable sources contradict me", I've already said that X-23 is being added to the movie and that she'll be in the asylum with the others, and that Colossus is also in the movie. Both of whom will be featured heavily in the promotion of the movie. This information would be easily contradicted by "reputable sources" if untruthful. So in closing, let me just state that your argument that I am trying to "save face" is completely invalid.
 
Hi everyone. Been lurking around here for a looooong time lol. Finally decided to join in partly because of this "insider" thing. Here's my 2 cents:

Alright, I don't mean to be rude to anyone but don't you guys think that blindly believing Slugzilla's stroies is kinda...unwise? I mean, I can see why some users like Psylockolossus believe him (I guess pretty easy to mislead him, after all he is the one who accused Fox for "forgetting" to give Deadpool 2 a title) but why do everybody else are so quick to believe him as well?
I remember back in 2013, there was a guy who shared some big spoilers for The Amazing Spider-Man 2, such as Goblin breaking Gwen's neck, manhole scene being the final shot of the film etc, like 9 months before it's release (and no, it wasn't TeeKay), and people immediately started calling him a liar. That guy, if I recall correctly, had a long history with SSH, he had been posting some spoilers for other movies before TASM2 which turned out to be real as well.
Now, there's Slugzilla. What he did exactly to confirm his words and make you believe him? He hadn't posted for 9 years and his recent comments about this movie sound completely unbelievable.
1) Sentinels were supposed to be in it? Like what, this movie was supposed to be a 150-180 mill R-Rated film (which is already a really hard to believe) and that Boone was like "Nah, I don't need that money, give me less"?
2) That script he posted sounded like some fanfiction. Sentinels destroying buildings and landing on people thus killing them and their neighbours were watching it and were like "Yeaaah, go Sentinels!"?
3) His comments about Warlock being in the movie when it was said by Boone that he hopes to introduce the character in the sequel.
4) And now he claims that Laura is in the movie as well and he already met DK the other day.... Now that sounds completely ridiculous.

Once again, I'm not trying to offend anyone but that doesn't sound real to me at all. If he could provide some proof for his words that would be a totally different thing but the fact that he mentioned reshoots a couple of days before the official statement doesn't say much to me.

Where to start.. Where to start..
You sound like the surgeon general's warning on a box of cigarettes "believing stories you read on the internet is unwise, and may be harmful to your health". People can read what I've said and use their own discernment to determine the validity or lack thereof of what I have stated. No one needs you to save them from the harm of my posts. Lol

And in the very same paragraph where you claim that you don't mean to be rude to anyone, you directly insult another user, a bit ironic.

And correct me if I'm wrong but your issue with me is my post count?!?! Seriously?!?! If anything I would think my lack of posts and recent emergence would lend credence to what I've said. Much as you described yourself as a lurker, I have been the same, until we saw Boone's cut of what was my first ever superhero movie. I spoke out with the encouragement of several individuals involved in the production who had either been personally mistreated, belittled or disrespected by JB during production or had witnessed it occur to others.

I will now counter your conveniently numbered points.

1) Sentinels were in several early drafts. Fox then decided they wanted things cheap. Then Boone was brought in, whose message of "I can do this on the cheap, just let me make it straight up horror because I want to make a horror movie" really seemed to resonate with the executives for some reason. And no, despite your spin to the contrary, Boone does not automatically receive a bigger paycheck if the film has a bigger budget.

2) I never posted a script, I posted a general overview of what the draft looked like at an earlier stage from memory. And yeah, it may have sounded like fan-fiction to you, but it would've been bleeping epic.
Have you ever considered that perhaps one of the reasons why so many superhero movies are crap, might have something to do with the fact that there aren't enough actual fans of the properties involved in the creation of them? We had real fans early on.

3) Boone says a lot of things. He also said the movie would be good. He also said this movie would work as a straight up horror movie. He also said that the movie would be released this year. He also said he was a fan of the New Mutants. And, as you pointed out, he also said there would be sequels. Warlock is already in this thing, seen em doin the motion capture on some lanky dude.

4) These changes have been in the works weeks before the official announcement of the movie's delay. I actually met the entire cast. Nice people, a little moody at times, but who isn't? Especially around that creepy ass mental hospital..

In closing, believe whatever you like, friend, but I'm not going to be baited into providing any kind of info or proof I don't want to. I guess you'll just have to wait for official announcements.
 
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Slugzilla, you know better than to explain yourself. I kinda wish this movie will be released neXt month, so you could prove that your scoops were right all along.
 
psylock weren't you the one in the Fan4stic threads sticking your fingers in your ears and ignoring all of the inside reports? Now you blindly believe the 1 you hear.

And then weren't you also so ingrained into the X-Men film series that you seemingly almost had a breakdown over the negative reviews?
What changed? I get now liking something but your hate isn't even constructive. Like believing FOX "forgot" to name Deadpool. Like really?

And slugzilla really can't be taken seriously, right or not, because in response to fair criticism he asked if someone was jealous (read: "jelly"). Like cmon now. People are resorting to calling people jealous that they don't agree with. AThat's just middle school nonsense. nd the Ricardo Brown guy wasn't even being mean or rude.

Im not saying New Mutants isn't in trouble, that they aren't adding a bunch in reshoots, or that it'll be good. I said I wasn't that impressed by the trailer. And everyone is 100% in their own right to criticize or praise whether I agree or not. But some of y'all really being ridiculous with your hate for it or FOX in general.

EDIT: It's like we can't even have a constructive convo, positive or negative, in any of the FOX threads because the same members keep posting the same type of things and acting iffy
 
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Obviously I have changed my feelings towards Fox and I was giving Fox the benefit of the doubt and I have already said it recently that in hindsight I regret giving Kinbefg and company a chance as that Rights should have just reverted. Fox have burnt me twice with Fantastic Four and Apocalypse and no way they are gonna get a pass from me especially this one doesn't even look like the New Mutants.

As for slugzilla, if it really bothers you. You can simply ignore him. I ignored all the insiders for Fan4stic and didn't resort to acting like a forum police like you are doing now to Slugzilla and now you are doing it to me, bringing up the past. Obsessed much? Anyway, I'm speaking for my opinions, the film is in deep trouble. You don't delay a finished film ten months if they have a great film in store.
 
Who is being the forum police. Like actually what is wrong with you? I'm not saying he shouldn't post. I'm not saying anyone shouldn't post or what they should post. I'm saying be mature about stuff. All I'm saying that slugzilla is posting things with no proof. Am I wrong?
 
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Oh, definitely! No one's denying that! We are probably in for an another Trank/F4 situation here.

If it ends up as bad as Fant4stic after the long delay and reshoots, it would be such an embarrassment to everyone involved. Even Apocalypse level of bad would be bad as well.
 
And in the very same paragraph where you claim that you don't mean to be rude to anyone, you directly insult another user, a bit ironic.
Insult? Not at all. Just pointed out his quick-to-hate attitude towards Fox so that's pretty obvious why he wants to believe you.
And correct me if I'm wrong but your issue with me is my post count?!?! Seriously?!?! If anything I would think my lack of posts and recent emergence would lend credence to what I've said. Much as you described yourself as a lurker, I have been the same, until we saw Boone's cut of what was my first ever superhero movie. I spoke out with the encouragement of several individuals involved in the production who had either been personally mistreated, belittled or disrespected by JB during production or had witnessed it occur to others.
No, I have nothing against your post count or you being a lurker, that's totally fine. I'm just curious why does everybody so quick to believe someone who has no history of providing scoops that turned out to be right (or in this case - any scoops at all) now when a few years ago a leak from a far more trustworthy source was met with a far greater distrust.

3) Boone says a lot of things. He also said the movie would be good. He also said this movie would work as a straight up horror movie. He also said that the movie would be released this year. He also said he was a fan of the New Mutants. And, as you pointed out, he also said there would be sequels. Warlock is already in this thing, seen em doin the motion capture on some lanky dude.
There's a difference between saying "My movie will be good!" and "We had to cut a character from this one but we'll introduce him in the sequel".
4) These changes have been in the works weeks before the official announcement of the movie's delay. I actually met the entire cast. Nice people, a little moody at times, but who isn't? Especially around that creepy ass mental hospital..
In closing, believe whatever you like, friend, but I'm not going to be baited into providing any kind of info or proof I don't want to. I guess you'll just have to wait for official announcements.
Jealous of what lol?

Yeah, sure. And when we can expect these announcements start to happen then?
 
If it ends up as bad as Fant4stic after the long delay and reshoots, it would be such an embarrassment to everyone involved. Even Apocalypse level of bad would be bad as well.
True, but it's not like it will be too big of a surprise. Honestly, after the latest news and that teaser trailer I couldn't care less about this movie. I think it's destined to fail now. My only fear about this film now is that IF Slugzilla is actually telling the truth, which I doubt, it would do great harm to Laura character and any idea of her having a spin off film or being in X-Force movie would be officially dead.
 
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Don't speak for myself. I believed Slugzilla because he's believable. I was already on the fence with the film and his scoops just validated my concern. Its not because of my "hatred" to Fox. And usually people who claim to have scoops just disappear after a few posts but this Slugzilla dude is consistent. Anyway, if X-23 and Colossus don't show up in the filmtyen you could start celebrating.
 
No, I have nothing against your post count or you being a lurker, that's totally fine. I'm just curious why does everybody so quick to believe someone who has no history of providing scoops that turned out to be right (or in this case - any scoops at all) now when a few years ago a leak from a far more trustworthy source was met with a far greater distrust.

Sounds like you're kinda bitter about some leakers from some time ago being mistreated, and met with criticism, so why are you now targeting me? And I have provided a scoop about this movie, I literally scooped everyone about this movie being a disaster and the movie needing mass reshoots before there was even any talk about the film being in trouble. Like three days before it was officially delayed to 2019. That's either a scoop or an xtra big coincidence.

And with that I am done defending myself. Not gonna happen again. It ain't worth the trouble.
 
Don't speak for myself. I believed Slugzilla because he's believable.
Ahhhhhh, totally makes sense now.


Sounds like you're kinda bitter about some leakers from some time ago being mistreated, and met with criticism, so why are you now targeting me?

Well, I'm not. I'm just saying this situation is strange, that's all.
If your scoop turn out to be right all along, you'll have my sincere apologies and I'll admit I was wrong, but for now... No, sorry. I don't believe you.
 
Obviously I have changed my feelings towards Fox and I was giving Fox the benefit of the doubt and I have already said it recently that in hindsight I regret giving Kinbefg and company a chance as that Rights should have just reverted. Fox have burnt me twice with Fantastic Four and Apocalypse and no way they are gonna get a pass from me especially this one doesn't even look like the New Mutants.

As for slugzilla, if it really bothers you. You can simply ignore him. I ignored all the insiders for Fan4stic and didn't resort to acting like a forum police like you are doing now to Slugzilla and now you are doing it to me, bringing up the past. Obsessed much? Anyway, I'm speaking for my opinions, the film is in deep trouble. You don't delay a finished film ten months if they have a great film in store.

This was a funny read.

Oh, I definitely will.

Yeah score dem internet points. /s


Honestly, Slugzilla might be true, he might be false. All I know is that I like reading leaks regardless of legitimacy. There's a reason why I enjoyed half The Last Jedi leaks even though 90 % of them were ********. And hey, if Slugzilla is right, well then he said they're fixing the movie up to the point where it might become a good movie. If he's false, then who the **** knows. I mean, guys, it is possible. Don't forget that Josh Trank went ballistic on 4Chan weeks before Fant4stic's release.
 
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Sounds like you're kinda bitter about some leakers from some time ago being mistreated, and met with criticism, so why are you now targeting me? And I have provided a scoop about this movie, I literally scooped everyone about this movie being a disaster and the movie needing mass reshoots before there was even any talk about the film being in trouble. Like three days before it was officially delayed to 2019. That's either a scoop or an xtra big coincidence.

And with that I am done defending myself. Not gonna happen again. It ain't worth the trouble.

Thanks for sharing all the BTS info, Slugzilla! I had a question for you, in the original draft, you made it sound like there would be UST between Mirage and Rahne and it sounds like Magik and Roberto teamed up to drive around town. In this new script, is the romance toned down? I notice they keep pairing ATJ (Magik) and Charlie Heaton (Cannonball) in the promotional materials. Please don’t tell me there is another ******** love triangle in this too. Stranger Things already has four love triangles right now. I was hoping New Mutants would leave that YA trope in the dustbin.
 
Thanks for sharing all the BTS info, Slugzilla! I had a question for you, in the original draft, you made it sound like there would be UST between Mirage and Rahne and it sounds like Magik and Roberto teamed up to drive around town. In this new script, is the romance toned down? I notice they keep pairing ATJ (Magik) and Charlie Heaton (Cannonball) in the promotional materials. Please don’t tell me there is another ******** love triangle in this too. Stranger Things already has four love triangles right now. I was hoping New Mutants would leave that YA trope in the dustbin.

There's some romance, not much though. No love triangles. Too much going on to really focus on that sorta thing, Just a few brief moments. It's implied that two of the mutants have intercourse at one point, and other than that there's one on screen kiss in the movie, between Rahne & Dani during a game truth or dare.
 
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