NFL Offseason & Waiting for the Swifties Return Thread

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[InCali]

That's interesting. I "think" that means they believe Ward and Sanders will be gone after pick 2, but they might also be thinking of giving one of them a shot and if they need a year to get comfortable, this allows them to do that. If Ward or Sanders were to really step up, $10M for a very good backup is a good deal.

Overall, I think this is a smart signing....IF they can fix that goddamn O line.

What say you @P Supreme ?

 

[Dr. Evil]

Giants Country! Let's.......stomp?

 

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[InCali]

The NFL draft got 12.1M viewers last year (Edit: for the 1st round show). That's more than ANY non-sports, primetime show (Tracker leads the way with 11.1M).

I don't know why that surprised me, but it did..... LOL

 

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[InCali]

That Geno Smith trade to the Raiders is looking better and better. Honestly, I just can't see the Browns passing on a QB this year, but, man, would Carter and Garrett working together wreak havoc.... maybe if the Browns tank they get their QB next year, but I'd be damn tired of waiting.

 

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[InCali]

It's 4PM (Pacific).......aaaaaaaaaand here we go! I swear, this is one of my favorite days of NFL football.

 

[Ninjablade]

Goddammit. The last guy I wanted was Campbell with his T-Rex arms. What a terrible pick.

 

[InCali]

Goddammit. The last guy I wanted was Campbell with his T-Rex arms. What a terrible pick.

I also look forward to your hilariously harsh opinions. OL are hard to figure out, but I think Campbell is going to do just fine. That being said, I would have been very tempted by Membou.

 

[Ninjablade]

I also look forward to your hilariously harsh opinions. OL are hard to figure out, but I think Campbell is going to do just fine. That being said, I would have been very tempted by Membou.

I trust the history and the measurements. Under 33in arms scare me at tackle, especially left. Everything I've seen and read makes him sound like a fantastic guard. Which is still important! Not 4th overall pick important!

You know me, I wanted a left tackle and thought it was the number one priority. That guy I just don't think is fit to be tackle long term.

 

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[InCali]

Off the top of my head, I think the Browns did GREAT. They gave up their 1st next year (EDIT: Sorry....I meant the Jags gave up their 1st next year), but got a very, very good interior guy on DL, and have 2 of the top 4 picks tomorrow. I don't think there's any way they pass on Sanders and can still help their team after that. Yeah, they could have gotten Hunter, but really helped themselves. PIcking up Sanders in the 2nd is a steal.

The Giants did well too. Carter is going to be a beast and if Dart pans out, they win.

Also, I think there;s a real chance Will Levis is a starting QB for a team that actually has an O line.

Time will tell.

EDIT2....my post is a mess, but I'm gonna leave it as is because we all need a laugh every now and then.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I actually hated what the Browns did. Mason Graham is a good player and the draft haul is nice and all, but you win with elite talent. Travis Hunter could have possibly become a Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson type playmaker for the team, and you need these players. The Browns always pass on these guys, and it's why they're always looking in the pantry and not finding anything to eat. I had the same reaction to this trade that I did when RDJ was cast as Doom. Moves like this make it really hard to root for this team

 

[InCali]

I actually hated what the Browns did. Mason Graham is a good player and the draft haul is nice and all, but you win with elite talent. Travis Hunter could have possibly become a Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson type playmaker for the team, and you need these players. The Browns always pass on these guys, and it's why they're always looking in the pantry and not finding anything to eat. I had the same reaction to this trade that I did when RDJ was cast as Doom. Moves like this make it really hard to root for this team

Interesting. I think he's going to really help solidify their D and I can see him becoming a Pro Bowl type of player. I also think they're making a mistake if they pass on Sanders. Is Graham a Hunter? I doubt it, but If Cleveland can get just good play at QB, they're gonna be tough.

That's the thing about the draft. As the witches stated in Macbeth, "fair is foul and foul is fair". We'll have a better idea later this year.

(Addition) Also, I think the Rams got a steal moving back 20 spots from low 1st to mid 2nd. My belief is that they were targeting Dart at QB, but after the Giants jumped them, they moved back. The difference between a low 1st and a mid 2nd isn't that great and they picked up a 1st next year from a team that could "easily" have a top 10 pick a year from now. I don't know what it is about Atlanta. I thought they were ready to walk away with their division last year, but just can't seem to pull it together. The Bucs look to easily be the class of that division and no one other than the division champ is gonna make the playoffs. Atlanta seems like maybe a game or two better than the Panthers and Saints. .

If the Raiders don't pick up help on D, they could challenge the Titans and the Jets (along with a few others) for the leagues worst record (again LOL).

 

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Interesting. I think he's going to really help solidify their D and I can see him becoming a Pro Bowl type of player. I also think they're making a mistake if they pass on Sanders. Is Graham a Hunter? I doubt it, but If Cleveland can get just good play at QB, they're gonna be tough.

That's the thing about the draft. As the witches stated in Macbeth, "fair is foul and foul is fair". We'll have a better idea later this year.

(Addition) Also, I think the Rams got a steal moving back 20 spots from low 1st to mid 2nd. My belief is that they were targeting Dart at QB, but after the Giants jumped them, they moved back. The difference between a low 1st and a mid 2nd isn't that great and they picked up a 1st next year from a team that could "easily" have a top 10 pick a year from now. I don't know what it is about Atlanta. I thought they were ready to walk away with their division last year, but just can't seem to pull it together. The Bucs look to easily be the class of that division and no one other than the division champ is gonna make the playoffs. Atlanta seems like maybe a game or two better than the Panthers and Saints. .

If the Raiders don't pick up help on D, they could challenge the Titans and the Jets (along with a few others) for the leagues worst record (again LOL).

I don't hate Graham as a player, but when you pass on a guy who has a ceiling like Hunter, and if he achieves that ceiling on another team, then Graham better be Aaron Donald. Otherwise you passed on a generational player for too little return and he goes on the giant list of players the Browns passed on, like Julio Jones, who became absolute fixtures of the entire league that you could have had. Draft capital is nice, but having a game breaking WR especially in the league now is simply more valuable

 

[InCali]

I don't hate Graham as a player, but when you pass on a guy who has a ceiling like Hunter, and if he achieves that ceiling on another team, then Graham better be Aaron Donald. Otherwise you passed on a generational player for too little return and he goes on the giant list of players the Browns passed on, like Julio Jones, who became absolute fixtures of the entire league that you could have had. Draft capital is nice, but having a game breaking WR especially in the league now is simply more valuable

He ain't gonna be Aaron Donald , but he can certainly help that D. The OL got some depth in FA, but nothing to really write home about. I think they just HAVE to go with Sanders and I think he could help them fill that glaring hole. Flacco could be a big help to him. If they can resign Chubb, I'd like to see them go WR and CB next. If CB, they could be really solid in their D backfield. I don't think the Browns are as far away as some people think they are.

 

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He ain't gonna be Aaron Donald , but he can certainly help that D. The OL got some depth in FA, but nothing to really write home about. I think they just HAVE to go with Sanders and I think he could help them fill that glaring hole. Flacco could be a big help to him. If they can resign Chubb, I'd like to see them go WR and CB next. If CB, they could be really solid in their D backfield. I don't think the Browns are as far away as some people think they are.

They ain't going QB. The only reason you make this deal is to have ammo to trade up next year for another QB. I dont expect them to draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd rounds

 

[InCali]

They ain't going QB. The only reason you make this deal is to have ammo to trade up next year for another QB. I dont expect them to draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd rounds

We're about to find out, but if they don't, I think they're basically tanking for this season and I don't know if they win 5 games.

 

[InCali]

I don't read the Cleveland feeds, but I'm pretty sure the Browns have given up on signing Chubb. I think Chubb is going to help someone this year.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I don't read the Cleveland feeds, but I'm pretty sure the Browns have given up on signing Chubb. I think Chubb is going to help someone this year.

I called them not taking a QB

Unless they get one in the 3rd. As for Chubb, I don't think teams think he has a lot left. So Browns may very well resign him for cheap