The Dark Knight Nicholson on Ledger playing the Joker

[CorpusBlack]

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i want sr pic done so i can post them on facebook

Why are you posting this rubbish on every thread? You can't just come in here demanding s--t. Earn your stripes first homeboy and learn the rules first. Your lack of courtesy and excessive off-topic posting is excrutiatingly annoying.

 

[SuBe]

Why are you posting this rubbish on every thread? You can't just come in here demanding s--t. Earn your stripes first homeboy and learn the rules first. Your lack of courtesy and excessive off-topic posting is excrutiatingly annoying.

Word.

 

[CorpusBlack]

Me am Bizarro! Me love Superman!

"Ha! That am only the beginning! Next, me realize that Superman never kill, so me kill lots of people! Them very grateful! Scream with happiness!"

 

[SuBe]

"Ha! That am only the beginning! Next, me realize that Superman never kill, so me kill lots of people! Them very grateful! Scream with happiness!"

I love Bizarro #1!

 

[Colossal Spoons]

B. A sequel? Ummm no its not lol. He apparently has no idea this is a new Joker.

Oh really, it's supposed to be a totally different person?

 

[calibud]

Oh really, it's supposed to be a totally different person?

No, a totally different approach. Or did you not see Begins?

 

[CaptainClown]

and the sarcasm flew over the head, there it goes

 

[BritishChap007]

I guess he may be bull-goose looney after all!

 

[gwynplaine]

R.I.P Fatusi lounge.

 

[ryoxproductions]

i can understand him being upset with the direction of the character. he liked the joker being comical, etc. but i'm sure nolan's joker will still be plenty silly as well. as for him being upset about not being offered the job, that's a little ridiculous. he's old.. like.. really old, lol. even make up and prostetics couldn't make him look young enough. if they were making a sequel to the original batman with joker being 60 or something then sure, he'd definitely be a good possibility. but this is joker at the same age as he was in the first batman. i'm sure the guy that played joker in the original tv show isn't upset and i wonder if he was even upset when nicholson was offered the role. it'd be like gene wilder expecting to be in the new charlie and the chocolate factory that was made, that's silly.

 

[TheMcGuffin]

i'm sure the guy that played joker in the original tv show isn't upset

Me too. He's been dead for almost 14 years now.

 

[xero1186]

Me too. He's been dead for almost 14 years now.

LOL! I hear Gene Wilder died too

 

[Sawyer]

MTV: What do you think of another actor, Heath Ledger, playing the Joker in next summer's "The Dark Knight"?
Nicholson: Let me be the way I'm not in interviews. I'm furious. I'm furious. [He laughs.] They never asked me about a sequel with the Joker. I know how to do that! Nobody ever asked me.
MTV: It was never brought up?
Nicholson: No. It's like, in any area, you can't believe the reasons things do or don't happen. Not asking me how to do the sequel is that kind of thing. Maybe it's not a mistake. Maybe it was the right thing, but to be candid, I'm furious.
MTV: I'm surprised to hear you sounding competitive about a role like that.
Nicholson: Well, the Joker comes from my childhood. That's how I got involved with it in the first place. It's a part I always thought I should play.
MTV: Will you see the new film?
Nicholson: I'm not inclined to watch it because of what I said. But if it's a good movie, I'll catch up with it somewhere. I don't think they ever really captured Tim Burton's spirit [since he stopped being involved]. They kind of drove the franchise into the ground. Tim Burton's a genius. He had the right take on it. That's why I did the movie. I did the movie based on a single conversation with him. We both come from the cartoon world originally. We had similar ideas. Tim said [the Joker] should have a humorous dark side to him. [Burton is] one of the great moviemakers. I think the world of him. He's the most unassuming man. And he doesn't feel pressure. That's what I love about him. Once he's in there, he's smiling making the movie. That's it!

from http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1573617/20071106/story.jhtml

First Shatner, now Nicholson. With all due respect, these old guys need to get over it.

 

[Hole Shot]

Why is it so hard to grasp that Nicholson was being tounge-in-cheek in his response?

 

[El Payaso]

Why is it so hard to grasp that Nicholson was being tounge-in-cheek in his response?

To hate gives some people an immense pleasure so anything is an excuse. Jack's joke was hilarious.

 

[Ryudoz]

LOL! I hear Gene Wilder died too

Gene Wilder?!?!

 

[Bat-Mite]

Why is it so hard to grasp that Nicholson was being tounge-in-cheek in his response?

Why was it necessary to resurrect this topic?

And... why is it so hard for you to grasp that he might have been serious? Personally, I find nothing remotely humorous about his response, so I don't understand what people think he's joking about, unless it's the comment he makes about being furious. But even then, to me, it doesn't come off as him trying to be funny as much as letting them know that he's a bit upset, but taking it in stride.

Anyway, looking back on this interview now, I think it's pretty awesome that Jack says he did the Joker based on a single conversation with Burton. Sounds similar to what happened with Nolan and Ledger. But then again, I suppose that I shouldn't read too much into that, because everything the man said here is "obviously" a joke.

 

[Hole Shot]

Why was it necessary to resurrect this topic?

I didn't see an expiration date on the thread.

And... why is it so hard for you to grasp that he might have been serious?

Because people here have an incredibly hard time picking up sarcasm and take everything literally. So I'm giving Jack the benefit of the doubt on this one.

 

[Reflectionist]

Jack Nicholson is full of himself

Sounds like he's full of Tim Burton too.

And yes, in that way.

 

[teseract]

Agreed, Nolan is about scripts, twists, plotting, whereas Burton is about imagery, cinematography, music etc.

So Nolan would be better suited to be a novel or script writer or working at the theater, gotcha! When will people learn it is NOT the job of the director to do "script, plotting and twists"? That's the damn script writers job! You don't let the Video-Operator tell the Lighting crew how to set up a scene, so why should the director concern himself with the writing of the script? That's not his primary function! Heck, it's not even up to him to decide if the script gets okayed or not, that's the producers responsibility. ****, technically speaking it's not even the directors job to set the picture up, that's the damn director of photography's job.

 

[teseract]

Which one would you choose to be friends with, if that Joker version was real?...and this was somehow Gotham.

Crazy comical Joker.

Lets go on a killing spree while laughing Joker.


My vote's with the new cat.

Uhmmm, hello? That's the DAMN point of the Joker. He's not supposed to look like a ****ed-up maniac. He's supposed to look like a harmless, entertaining clown, who all of a sudden turns into a visious sadist. It's all about the "darkness hidden beneath a harmless facade". That's the draw of the character. That's what Chucky and the Joker have in common. One is a toy, something that is supposed to bring joy, the other a clown, something that is supposed to give people a laugh and entertain them.

 

[Figs]

Uhmmm, hello? That's the DAMN point of the Joker. He's not supposed to look like a ****ed-up maniac. He's supposed to look like a harmless, entertaining clown, who all of a sudden turns into a visious sadist. It's all about the "darkness hidden beneath a harmless facade". That's the draw of the character. That's what Chucky and the Joker have in common. One is a toy, something that is supposed to bring joy, the other a clown, something that is supposed to give people a laugh and entertain them.

On another note though, the Joker in the "Comic world" is supposed to scare people and not just from his actions. It's only in the real world that we see Nicholson's Joker or comic book Joker and say "There's that good old Joker again". That's because he's been ingrained into our society's pop culture for decades and we're used to him.

 

[Figs]

So Nolan would be better suited to be a novel or script writer or working at the theater, gotcha! When will people learn it is NOT the job of the director to do "script, plotting and twists"? That's the damn script writers job! You don't let the Video-Operator tell the Lighting crew how to set up a scene, so why should the director concern himself with the writing of the script? That's not his primary function! Heck, it's not even up to him to decide if the script gets okayed or not, that's the producers responsibility. ****, technically speaking it's not even the directors job to set the picture up, that's the damn director of photography's job.

Usually, what you said is true about Directors, but as most of us Nolan fans know from interviews and whatnot, he also writes as well as collaberates with the writers on where the story is going.

As for the director of photography being the only one who should set up the picture. If that were true Directors really shouldn't get much credit for making the film. That would leave them to just basically telling the actors to "stand here, then say this line." I think if your a good director and one who actually is making the film you need to have some say in how that scene is going to be shot.

 

[Rumsfeld3d]

Uhmmm, hello? That's the DAMN point of the Joker. He's not supposed to look like a ****ed-up maniac. He's supposed to look like a harmless, entertaining clown, who all of a sudden turns into a visious sadist. It's all about the "darkness hidden beneath a harmless facade". That's the draw of the character. That's what Chucky and the Joker have in common. One is a toy, something that is supposed to bring joy, the other a clown, something that is supposed to give people a laugh and entertain them.

Eh... Joker is a F'd up maniac, beady little eyes, yellow teeth with a menacing smile, is "a harmless facade." The draw of the character is the fact that he's a maniac that he's unpredictable, and will do anything just because he feels like it. That we'd all like to do what he does one day if/when we finally snap because, well just because. There's no rhyme or reason for what The Joker does, that we know about, it all makes sense in his head. Not any place else. If the reason that you like the joker is 'cause of the harmless facade, thats pretty disturbing all in itself.

 

[Dark Sentinel]

look the fact is, Nicholson needs to get off his high horse and appreciate Ledger's interpretation of the Joker for what it is: an interpretation.

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