Discussion in 'The Dark Knight' started by Vengeance of Bane, Nov 7, 2007.
I thought he did fantastic, Jack had the best lines in Batman'89.
Not by a long shot.
Ledger has so much to demonstrate first. I understand that a character and a movie that you have merely seen inside of your head might look very good, but results in films, acting and in everything else are concrete, not a voice and some pictures.
Thank you! someone talking sense and acting with thier head and not their heart Nicholson is an all time great he is recognised up with all the greats in cinema dinero,pachino,hopkins, alec guinness, dustin hoffman etc. i dont think any younger actor today will ever be so celebrated Ledger is a good actor but today the amount of good/great actors is better then ever IMO is Ledger really that good or better compared to Denzel washington,russel crowe, gary oldman, sean penn, edward norton, matt damon, johnny depp, etc? I really dont think so his body of work is frankly poor he is 28/29 but in todays cinema most actors have an impressive resume by that age brokeback, candy and lords of dogtown are the same roles mentioned over and over but they are just okay performances and dogtown was crap completely overacted imo if ledger approaches his joker this way we are sunk imo dont get me wrong i do think ledger will be good even great but to think this is a given is really stupid ledger will never approach jacks greatness he is just a plain better actor and came from a time when cineman entered the modern age of acting actors as celebrated will never come along again IMO.
I'm not going to put down Nicholson's performance as the Joker, but Burton and Nolan have two very different interpretations of Batman. Not only that, it would feel really weird to have the old Joker coming back in a new Batman Franchise with a different actor for Batman.
Wow wow wow, you guys are getting into some heated discussion.
Of course Nolans take is a more serious affair and im looking foward to it i just dont like people bashing as great an actor as jack because he didnt say exactly what they want if bale tomorrow said he doesnt really like batman and he is only doing it for exposure and a big check it would be interesting to hear the responce.t:
That's right. He's only 28, which means he has a ways to go before ever being compared to Nicholson.
a voice of reason!
reason in shh? preposterous! He must be a witch!
i don't know why people are comparing ledger and Nicholson career-wise now.
Jack Nicholson plays himself as of late, but he's been in so many classics. He's a legend. Heath is a different type of actor, going in a different direction. The only crossroads is The Joker.
ya, would be funny though to see Jack play a gay cowboy
I had to do research for 'QFT' aka 'quote for truth'. I don't know what that meant!
ya i pretended tok now what qft meant a long time ago.. sigh good times
or it could be 'quite F##ing true' too huh?
I just did the exact same thing before reading your post.
I curse you, ever-evolving online slang.
Wonder how many of these kiddos have seen Chinatown? Which in my opinion is Jack's best role, the one time he's not "CRAZY JACK!"
As for Heath, I'm still liking what I'm seeing from Ledger so far, I'm at the point now where I think he's going to do one of two things: be a total flop as a result of over acting or get an Oscar nod for his performance.
I too had no idea what it meant and assumed he was telling you to "Quit F***ing Talking"
Ya chinatown is by far one of my favorite roles of his. I love it when Roman Polanski calls him Kitty cat.
That's what I assume it meant, but I have tourettes.
Great movie that didn't need a sequel.
Heh, amusing to see Nicholson so pissed at him not being the Joker in TDK.
Of course, he would have never been a consideration because this is a new film series and one of it's aims is to do Batman differently from what has come before. Plus he is way too old, plus it would confuse the hell out of everyone and make all but hardcore Batman fans think that ALL Batman films are just one massive series like James Bond instead of two seperate franchises.
The reasons are endless. In light of this, it is pretty weird that Nicholson is pissed, really.
I do think it's a shame he never got to play Joker again, but if it was going to happen it should have been in B&R since the planned Batman5 got canned.
Talking in an accent different than your own doesn't mean you have any more range or talent than anyone else. I could talk in a different accent and make it believeable.