Obama Thread 2.0: Presidential Edition

[RockSP]

I think your mis understanding my point.

I just told you I almost got arrested for walking a park.

Trust me, I know. Cops can do whatever they want.

But, if you think it's okay to be arrested for saying some harsh ****...then, I dunno. Maybe your more pro-government control then you think.

There seems to be some big fans of 1984 on this site.

I've always felt that the police troubles with minorities isn't a racial thing as much as a cultural thing.

Not exclusively but yeah...definitely racial.

 

[StorminNorman]

Some police troubles with minorities are racial.

 

[Paradoxium]

And its also important to remember that Obama has the third lowest approval rating at this point of post WWII presidents* and recent polls reveal if he ran for office today against Mitt Romney he would be in a dead heat**.

What does this tell us? The first factoid tells us Obama's honeymoon period is ending far more quickly than past presidents and the Romney tie indicates that the financial crisis is causing Obama to lose support with the independents that put him in office.

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The Romney bit won't matter. I think the Republicans are insane enough to pick Pawlenty cause of the whole social conservatism schtick. Just watch t:

 

[Marlboro Man]

And its also important to remember that Obama has the third lowest approval rating at this point of post WWII presidents* and recent polls reveal if he ran for office today against Mitt Romney he would be in a dead heat**.

What does this tell us? The first factoid tells us Obama's honeymoon period is ending far more quickly than past presidents and the Romney tie indicates that the financial crisis is causing Obama to lose support with the independents that put him in office.

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This doesn't tell us anything. Bush and Clinton had approval ratings in the low-mid 40s at this point and they were both re-elected.

 

[SsM]

Hawaii again declares Obama birth certificate real

HONOLULU – State officials in Hawaii on Monday said they have once again checked and confirmed that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen, and therefore meets a key constitutional requirement for being president.

They hoped to stem a recent surge in the number of inquiries about Obama's birthplace.

"I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen," Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said in a brief statement. "I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."

So-called "birthers" — who claim Obama is ineligible to be president because, they argue, he was actually born outside the United States — have grown more vocal recently on blogs and television news shows.

Fukino issued a similar press release Oct. 31, but was prompted to speak out again because of the renewed attention on Obama's beginnings. Hawaii's Health Department has been flooded in recent weeks with questions from individuals and several national TV news networks asking for proof that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.

"They just keep asking over and over and over again," Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said.

The Constitution states that a person must be a "natural-born citizen" to be eligible for the presidency. Birthers contend that Obama's birth certificate is a fake, and many say he was actually born in Kenya, his father's homeland. They've challenged his citizenship in court.

One widely circulated YouTube clip of a town hall meeting showed a Republican congressman getting booed for saying Obama is a citizen. Talk show host Rush Limbaugh and CNN's Lou Dobbs have also raised the issue, and 10 Republican members of Congress co-sponsored a bill that would require future presidential candidates to provide a copy of their original birth certificate.

However, it appears Congress has moved on and has accepted Obama's island birthplace. The U.S. House on Monday unanimously approved a resolution recognizing and celebrating the 50th anniversary of Hawaii becoming the 50th state. A clause was included that reads: "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961."

State law bars the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

However, Obama's birth certificate along with birth notices from the two Honolulu newspapers were brought forward even before he took office. But that's done nothing to shake the belief by many Obama critics that the president was born abroad.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090728/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certificate

 

[terry78]

Maybe now they'll shut the **** up about this.


But we all know they won't.

 

[StorminNorman]

In the end though, it doesn't matter - because it's such a fringe group.

 

[Darthphere]

The birth certificate is real, but is it reaaaaaaal?

 

[Paradyme]

Obama 2004: Bush Rushed Legislation Through Congress Without Allowing Time to Read Or Debate

Hypocrisy alert!

A heretofore "unknown" 2004 interview with Barack Obama by leftwing radio host Randi Rhodes has just emerged. And basically, as you shall hear, Obama is saying do as I say, not as I do. In this case he was referring to quickly forcing legislation through congress. As you can hear in this interview, uncovered by Naked Emporer News, the hypocrisy seems so massive that it is destined to go viral on the Web. It features Randi Rhodes back during her Air America days interviewing then senator-elect Barack Obama on November 22, 2004. And despite the fact that Randi is currently pretty well hidden from public view, you can be sure she will soon be talked about again because of her inadvertent exposure of incredible hypocrisy on the part of Obama. And what was the hypocrisy? His complaint that the Bush administration was rushing legislation through congress without giving the legislators time to read the bills or allowing for much debate.

To get the full flavor of the Obama hypocrisy, be sure to listen to the YouTube clip which also includes a video of MSNBC's Chuck Todd discussing why Rahm Emanuel felt the need to Rahm, I mean ram, legislation through congress. Here is the transcript which picks up at the 55 second mark:

BARACK OBAMA: ...When you rush these budgets that are a foot high and nobody has any idea what's in them and nobody has read them.

RANDI RHODES: 14 pounds it was!

BARACK OBAMA: Yeah. And it gets rushed through without any clear deliberation or debate then these kinds of things happen. And I think that this is in some ways what happened to the Patriot Act. I mean you remember that there was no real debate about that. It was so quick after 9/11 that it was introduced that people felt very intimidated by the administration.

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http://newsbusters.org/stories/obam...gislationthrough-congress-without-allowing-ti

Never heard of this news site before but you can read the rest after the jump.

 

[chaseter]

HAHAHA...gotta love hypocrisy. Looks like 4 more years of the same.

 

[Paradoxium]

Anyone read this story?

Basically Gates all over again, but imagine the cop was black, and the suspect was a 72 year old white woman. And yes she was yelling just like Gates. The twist? The black officer tasers her. t:

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/28/hal-turner-talk-radio-hos_n_246448.html

Hal Turner, Talk Radio Host, denies threatening to kill judges; Is apparent FBI informant

CHICAGO — A New Jersey blogger accused of threatening to kill three federal judges has been an FBI informant and even told authorities about a potential plot to assassinate President Barack Obama, his lawyer said Tuesday.

 

[Addendum]

Only difference is Gates didn't push the officer into oncoming traffic

 

[hippie_hunter]

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/07/26/nr.comrade.in.arms.cnn

 

[hippie_hunter]

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/07/26/nr.comrade.in.arms.cnn

 

[StorminNorman]

The Gates controversy really needed it's own thread and not be shoehorned into the Obama thread.

 

[redfirebird2008]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/28/hal-turner-talk-radio-hos_n_246448.html

Woah, Hal Turner is an FBI informant? This is like Nicholson in the Departed. Pretty surprising little twist there.

 

[Marx]

The Gates controversy really needed it's own thread and not be shoehorned into the Obama thread.

The Gates controversy has been severely blown out of proportion.

 

[SsM]

The Gates controversy has been severely blown out of proportion.

In every way possible, from every angle possible. Ridiculous.

 

[redfirebird2008]

In every way possible, from every angle possible. Ridiculous.

Distract, distract, distract...meanwhile who knows how many more billions are going out the door to the banker criminals via the TARP program.

 

[Matt]

Maybe now they'll shut the **** up about this.


But we all know they won't.

In the end, even if Obama weren't a citizen, it would be covered up by the powers that be simply to spare the embarrassment and fall out. That said, he is. THAT said, as Norman said, it doesn't matter if they keep *****ing cause its such a small fringe group. Jesus Christ himself could come to Earth and tell them and they'd question his birth certificate.

 

[chaseter]

Distract, distract, distract...meanwhile who knows how many more billions are going out the door to the banker criminals via the TARP program.

I like how someone has video of Obama saying that Bush was rushing bills and making them too long for anybody to read and then this Gates crap comes out and completely over shadowed it. I can bet that Obama's rep people told him to keep this thing going as long as they can to distract.

 

[Kelly]

I can assure you if there is any distraction techniques being used its from Rahm Emmanuel.....and probably Fox News would have been the only one covering the Gates thing anyway. Maybe an article in the New York Times on the 4th page....

 

[Paradyme]

Obama still cashing in on Bush's failings

Facing the first real rough patch of his presidency, President Obama and his supporters are once again resorting to a tried-and-true tactic: attacking George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

In his White House press conference last week, Mr. Obama referred to the Bush era at least nine times, three times lamenting that he "inherited" a $1.3 trillion debt that has set back his administration's efforts to fix the economy.

With the former president lying low in Dallas, largely focused on crafting his memoirs, Mr. Obama has increasingly attempted to exploit Mr. Bush when discussing the weak economy, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the difficulty closing the military prison at U.S. Naval Base Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

As he took power, Mr. Obama promised a "new era of responsibility" that would transcend partisan politics.

"For a guy who campaigned on taking responsibility and looking forward, he spends an awful lot of time pointing fingers and looking backward," said former Bush deputy press secretary Tony Fratto, who has begun defending the previous administration.

But Democrats think Mr. Obama would be remiss if he did not point out what he inherited.

"I'm not convinced that Obama and his supporters are bashing Bush as much as they are quite rightfully reminding people that our current economic mess and the wars were inherited from the Bush administration," said Democratic strategist Bud Jackson. "It's important to remind people of this because Republicans are now criticizing the Obama administration as if they had no role in how we got here."

Democratic Party strategist Liz Chadderdon said the strategy of blaming the previous team has been effective.

"I think Bush-bashing has been alive and well since '07 and, since it keeps working, why not use it?" she said. "Voters have short memories. The administration needs to remind people that things were way worse over the last four years than in the last six months."

Mixed feelings among voters about health care reform have shaken the president's approval ratings from the high poll numbers when he took office. Six months into his term, 30 percent of the nation's voters "strongly approve" of Mr. Obama's job performance, according to a survey released Monday by the Rasmussen polling organization.

The poll showed that 40 percent "strongly disapprove" of the president's performance, marking the first time the disparity has reached double digits.

Since taking office, Mr. Obama has implemented a $787 billion stimulus package that has failed to produce a quick economic turnaround and the U.S. economy has shed more than 2.5 million jobs.

Mr. Obama hardly ever refers to Mr. Bush by name. In fact, his Web site, whitehouse.gov, recently scrubbed the name of the former president out of a reference to Hurricane Katrina, which once read: "President Obama will keep the broken promises made by President Bush to rebuild New Orleans and the Gulf Coast."

Now, the "President Bush" is gone.

Although Mr. Obama's effort is subtle, his rhetoric is clear. On his first trip overseas, Mr. Obama referred to Mr. Bush's foreign policy and said the United States has "shown arrogance" and been "dismissive, even derisive." He said decisions of the past had "lowered our standing in the world."
"There are some mornings I read the news and feel like it's January 2009 -- there are so many stories making the front page about things that President Bush thought about and didn't do," said former White House press secretary Dana Perino. "I find it hard to believe that there aren't more interesting stories affecting Americans in the here and now that can garner that kind of space. But the obsession continues unabated."

Even when asserting his responsibility for addressing the nation's problems, Mr. Obama manages to highlight that he was left to deal with others' missteps.

At a town-hall meeting this month in Michigan -- the state with the nation's highest jobless rate -- Mr. Obama said that fixing the economy is "a job I gladly accept."

But he added, "I love these folks who helped get us in this mess. And then suddenly say, 'Oh, this is Obama's economy.'"

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-cashing-in-on-bushs-economic-failings/print/

How much longer do you all think he can keep blaming Bush?

 

[Matt]

People like to throw around the term narcissm and confuse it with being proud of your achivements. Like my grandaddy said, if you don't pat yourself on the back, no one else will.

I'd say that when your gift to foreign leaders are I-Pods with your own speeches on them, you've crossed the line between being proud of your achievements and being arrogant. Hell, you've not only crossed the line, you've taken a piss on it.