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I'm not a fan of it, but not because "oh noes, diversity!"
1. Sam is too breezy of a dude, and hasn't been developed into a very dimensional character who can carry a film as the dramatic lead... I also don't know if Mackie has the chops to carry it, but we'll see on that... Call it the Jack Sparrow syndrome, not every character makes for a good lead, even if they're charming AF
2. Falcon doesn't need a "promotion", he's not a sidekick, he doesn't need to become Captain America to be considered legitimate, nor does he need redemption
3. As I said a few pages back, not a big fan of Legacy characters in general, leave that to DC. I don't care about Captain America, I care about Steve Rogers.
4. The comics ruined the idea... between how soon after Bucky-Cap it happened, and then the whole Falcon Cap series being way too on-the-nose with its message (the whole series was pretty much just villains saying "Ohhhh but he's black and he can't be Captain.'), it just wasn't a very good run, imo... The MCU tends to improve on things that sucked in the comics, so hopefully that happens here as well

I don't hate it, but I don't love it either... They should've just retired the moniker; and if they wanted someone to take on the mantle, there are more dramatically rich choices they could have made, but it is what it is
Watch The Hurt Locker, She Hate Me, We Are Marshall. He has a more extensive dramatic resume than say Evans or Hemsworth. I think he could handle the role.

I def agree that we don't need Sam to be promoted to Cap and losing his Falcon identity. I thought Falcon was a pretty capable character and he didn't behave as if he was a one-note sidekick.

That being said, I am curious to how they'll go forward with Sam now.
 
Did you consider using the heroes from the Netflix TV shows, like Daredevil or Jessica Jones?
McFEELY We would have to introduce these five characters — or whatever many. We already are assuming people have seen a lot of the movies. Are we really going to assume they have bought a subscription to Netflix and watched those shows enough so that when they see them, they’re going to go “yay?”
MARKUS It also screws up the timelines. You would have to assume that they all got snapped away, or otherwise they might have shown up earlier. I think the only character who has come from TV to the movies is Jarvis, James D’Arcy [from “Agent Carter”].
 
Did you consider using the heroes from the Netflix TV shows, like Daredevil or Jessica Jones?
McFEELY We would have to introduce these five characters — or whatever many. We already are assuming people have seen a lot of the movies. Are we really going to assume they have bought a subscription to Netflix and watched those shows enough so that when they see them, they’re going to go “yay?”
MARKUS It also screws up the timelines. You would have to assume that they all got snapped away, or otherwise they might have shown up earlier. I think the only character who has come from TV to the movies is Jarvis, James D’Arcy [from “Agent Carter”].
Weirdly, there was also two other actors from Agent Carter in the 1970's Time Heist scene at the old military compound...

The guy shutting the door to the vault/elevator, and the guy who comes in to that room with Peggy when Steve is spying.
 
I love seeing how Fargo influences their timejump.

Also, this also proves how fat Thor was worth it. No need to make him angry vengeful Thor once again. Instead, give him a brickwall plot start.

Kevin Feige had something to say (obliquely) about Thor's physique in an interview some days ago.


Going Big on Diversity & Embracing Body Positivity, Marvel Might Introduce Plus-size Superheroes

Marvel Studios want their films to "reflect audiences all over the globe that are cheering" their work. Though they are going big on diversity, they are yet to have a plus-size superhero or someone who doesn't have an envious physique. But this might change "sooner than you think", says Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige.

Chris Hemsworth, Brie Larson and Chris Evans are some of the Hollywood stars who have donned the superhero costume for Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU). It's not just their special skills or superpowers that fans across the world are in love with, but also their jaw-dropping figures.

When IANS asked would Marvel like to introduce superheroes who don't possess the "perfect figure", Feige said here with a laugh: "Yes, I would because then maybe I can be a superhero."

"Traditionally, if you look at the way they are drawn in the comics, they go to very iconic mythic proportions. We happen to have many actors and actresses who have mythic proportions themselves for real but I will just say yes and perhaps sooner than you think," he said during a group interview here.​
 
After seeing it a second time; my opinion on it stands that it's really good and one of the better MCU films, but not the best. I do prefer it to Infinity War and I'd probably put them at 4th and 5th best MCU.

I'm not sure how much rewatchability this will have for me unless I'm doing some sort of marathon, but I'll see it one more time in theaters next week before getting the 4K steelbook the day it comes out.
 
Doesn't surprise me to see agent Carter actors in this. I think it's the only TV series Feige actually had a hand in. Might be special to him.
 
After having watched this three times, as far as I'm concerned
Bucky knew what Cap was going to do in regards to staying behind to live a life with Peggy. When they are talking before he leaves, I feel like you can just see it in Bucky's face like he knows. I need to see it again to remember the specific moment and line that seemingly gave it away for me.

He says
"I'm gonna miss you bud"
 
It's just as good for me certain parts get better particularly the Thor stuff and I focus on different things in that big battle got my hulk fix looking in the right spots :D
 
It's kind of flabbergasting to me how entertaining this movie is without really being that action packed until the latter parts of the run time. That is an impressive feat. And kind of ballsy.

I'm seeing this one as much as possible. It just feels like an end of an era and I wanna live in what could be last hurrah for the o6 as much as possible before I accept what's to come in the future.

I stay until the mid credits and cheer every time.
 
God how I wish Silvestri scored Ultron...if they ever special edition it I wouldn't mind a if Silvestri re scored it. but that is pipe dream central.
I wish he did the score for Civil War. Wasn’t a fan of Jackman’s work there (Love his work in Winter Soldier however)
 
After seeing it a second time; my opinion on it stands that it's really good and one of the better MCU films, but not the best. I do prefer it to Infinity War and I'd probably put them at 4th and 5th best MCU.

I'm not sure how much rewatchability this will have for me unless I'm doing some sort of marathon, but I'll see it one more time in theaters next week before getting the 4K steelbook the day it comes out.
The original Avengers film is still the best one for me overall. Rewatched it a couple weeks ago, and forgot how much fun that movie is.
 
So, any controversy from the crowd who are pissed about

Sam Wilson being given the shield.

Ohhhh but he's Black and he can't be Captain.

same as those pissed about Captain Marvel or the all-female group action shot. I'm real happy Marvel is doubling-down on diversity. It's really great to see such idiots gripe about it

People are probably mad Evans isnt Captain America anymore. It has nothing to do with Sam Wilson or him being black.

Im going to be equally mad if they made anyone the nerxt Iron Man or anyone the next Black Panther whether they use black hispanic white or female.

I dont want Sam Wilson to become the next Cap and i dont want Bucky to become the next Cap EITHER. I want Steve Rogers.

I dont want my lead actors to chance ESPECIALLY the bigger ones. And i dont want their mantles to be handed to anyone else.

It has nothing to do with diversity. Thats BS in most cases.

Why do people always assume race is the reason ?

As far as the all female shot it is the most FORCED shot in the whole of MCU more forced than anything i ve seen in cinema recently. Its done SOLELY for the sake of it being done.

There should be a reason for everything in a film that makes sense. Many times things dont make sense and i accept that but FORCED things i cant accept those. It has nothing to do with sex.
Kevin Feige had something to say (obliquely) about Thor's physique in an interview some days ago.


Going Big on Diversity & Embracing Body Positivity, Marvel Might Introduce Plus-size Superheroes

Another piece of BS.

I think Ricky Gervais answers this pretty well in his special Out of England.

Being fat is UNHEALTHY. Its not about body shaming or embracing body positivity.

You get fat by taking in more calories than the ones you burn. Its your choice and you should accpet the consequences which are bad health and societal judgement.

Shame serves a purpose and in some cases its a good thing. People just think shame always translates to hate which is incorrect.

Shame is a negative critic. Negative critic doesnt always mean bad intentions.

P.S. Im overweight.
Thor got fat by abusing alcohol and irresponsible behaviour so this further makes what Feige and this article says even more BS
 
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Yeah what a nice arguement. Often used by those who have nothing to argue just feelings.
You might as well go straight to insult while you are it.


There is a reason Cavil, Affleck ,Evans ,Hemsworth and others spent HOURS in the gym beating themselves up and made HUGE sacrificies eating stuff they didnt enjoy and missing out on fun foods and drinks to get a great physique.

Because fat superheroes ARE NOT realistic and its very hard to have a logical reason why a superhero would be fat.

Sure you can find a few xmen or other comic book characters that would make sense for them to be fat but most of them ARENT for a good reason.
 
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