The Dark Knight Rises OFFICIAL: Batman in the Burgh - - Part 11

[Yurka]

Just on that same scene, there's an 18 wheeler flipping on it's nose by 2 wires, when in reality the front bump would've come right off at best.

Thats the beauty of practical effects, if it's done "for real", it makes the stunt that much more believable.

When you immediately follow that massive, practical stunt, with a poorly cgi'd maneuver, it takes away from the impressive scale of the stunt and the "holy ****" factor, let alone what it does for the movie.

No. It's grounded in a world that is comparatively close to ours (moreso than the previous films and many comics), but is still not ours. Most of the things in these movies simply could not happen in the real world, they're presented in such a way that within the world created, heavily grounded in its own internal set of logic and rules, they feel believable. It's the illusion of realism, if anything.

"Most of the things in these movies simply could not happen in the real world"

Like what?


The Tumbler jumping on the rooftops is believable enough because they setup that the tumbler has that ability thus giving the pay-off scene credibility. The microwave emitter is believable enough,but that would be the only element of Begins that really gives a sense of taking place in a different "universe".

 

[TheBatman072]

Thats the beauty of practical effects, if it's done "for real", it makes the stunt that much more believable.

When you immediately follow that massive, practical stunt, with a poorly cgi'd maneuver, it takes away from the impressive scale of the stunt and the "holy ****" factor, let alone what it does for the movie.

Nice switch of the argument.

You go from "it sucks because it's not realistic!" to "it sucks because it's not REAL and if it was it would be awesome!"

 

[RKO]

Thats the beauty of practical effects, if it's done "for real", it makes the stunt that much more believable.

When you immediately follow that massive, practical stunt, with a poorly cgi'd maneuver, it takes away from the impressive scale of the stunt and the "holy ****" factor, let alone what it does for the movie.

Ok, so you're talking about something completely different here then. You don't like the delivery or the way it was shot. Not the actual maneuver.

Nothing wrong with that. They just probably didn't find a way to shoot practically. I thought it was pretty great.

Edit: And there wasn't any bad CGI in that part, far from terrible. If anything the helicopter crashing against the building is far worse, and that also looked really good.

 

[batbax]

Ptetty sure Rachel/batman surviving penthouse fall without so much as a scratch is at least on par with the
batpod trick... Or the pencil trick... Or the cell phone in the tummy.. Or the truck flip.. I could go on but just thought I'd point these all out to yurka

 

[Yurka]

Ok, so you're talking about something completely different here then. You don't like the delivery or the way it was shot. Not the actual maneuver.

Nothing wrong with that. They just probably didn't find a way to shoot practically. I thought it was pretty great.

Nice switch of the argument.

You go from "it sucks because it's not realistic!" to "it sucks because it's not REAL and if it was it would be awesome!"

No. Not at all. I asked for another example of a fantastical event that defies the laws of physics and RKO said the 18 wheeler, for which I said it's believable because of the use of practical effects.

If they tried the same Batpod spin with a real batpod it would have looked even more rediculous because it can not work realistically.

And I think it "sucks" because it doesn't fit in with the rest of the scene, let alone the movie, at all.

Ptetty sure Rachel/batman surviving penthouse fall without so much as a scratch is at least on par with the
batpod trick... Or the pencil trick... Or the cell phone in the tummy.. Or the truck flip.. I could go on but just thought I'd point these all out to yurka

Rachel should have been slightly injured in the penthouse fall, I agree, but Batman's cape helps slow them down to a non-fatal impact as shown in the movie. The pencil trick is a joke, it doesn't need to be 100% realistic. Cell-phone in the tummy is 100% realistic, and the truck flip is just executed so well that it looks realistic.

 

[batbax]

Skyhook?!?! Lol. I mean.. Cmon.

 

[RKO]

No. Not at all. I asked for another example of a fantastical event that defies the laws of physics and RKO said the 18 wheeler, for which I said it's believable because of the use of practical effects.

If they tried the same Batpod spin with a real batpod it would have looked even more rediculous because it can not work realistically.

And I think it "sucks" because it doesn't fit in with the rest of the scene, let alone the movie, at all.

To each their own I guess. To me is those type of scenes where it brings those fantastical comic book moments to life, and it takes the movie to another level.

We're talking about a Batman movie, where Batman stops a white van by stomping on it. They're just great money shots.

 

[Yurka]

Skyhook?!?! Lol. I mean.. Cmon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPUPOTczy7I&feature=player_embedded

To each their own I guess. To me is those type of scenes where it brings those fantastical comic book moments to life, and it takes the movie to another level.

We're talking about a Batman movie, where Batman stops a white van by stomping on it. They're just great money shots.

True, its just the little batpod stuff that bugs me. It doesn't bother me as much but when he blows out the dumpsters to confront the Joker and the front wheel rotates... what's the point?



And I love that moment

 

[Victarion]

I didn't pay attention to half the stuff/details you tossers did.

 

[Brother Jack]

The Tumbler jumping on the rooftops is believable enough because they setup that the tumbler has that ability thus giving the pay-off scene credibility. The microwave emitter is believable enough,but that would be the only element of Begins that really gives a sense of taking place in a different "universe".

Both of those things work because they are anchored in the rules and logic that govern Nolan's Gotham, and yes they are believable in that context, but they still could not exist in the real world.

 

[venus_ice]

Skyhook?!?! Lol. I mean.. Cmon.

The other day I saw someone wearing a shirt that just said "SKYHOOK" on it. I was intrigued but not enough to ask.

/coolstorybro

 

[Infinity9999x]

I've never advocated for any Schumacher-esque maneuvers in these films, they belong in their own realm far, far away from Nolan's.

You're comparing the batpod moment to schumacher? Really? I mean, I could see Bay-esque, I wouldn't agree with it, but Schumacher esque? If he had been sporting tons of neon and nipples maybe.

 

[batbax]

Dent flipping a car after shooting the driver walking away unscathed? Helicopters crashing right in front if swat truck causing no damage to said truck?

 

[Bim]

I'm with Yurka. The Batpod spin is quite silly in the context of the movie. As far as "cool" moments in the movie and even from the Batpod, I think both the emergence from the Tumbler and the ride through the mall is cooler, better done and better shot.

I'll raise my hand and say i really didnt like the Batpod going up the wall either. I loved the heck out of the truck flip, but the spin kinda made me roll my eyes for some reason. Never understood the fascination with it, but to each their own, we all cant like the same things.

 

[Cats]

Nolan's Batman series is considerably realistic, when you put it next to the likes of action movies like James Bond, Mission Impossible and Wanted

 

[DaddyGrayson]

I'll raise my hand and say i really didnt like the Batpod going up the wall either. I loved the heck out of the truck flip, but the spin kinda made me roll my eyes for some reason. Never understood the fascination with it, but to each their own, we all cant like the same things.

Same. It disrupted the scene a little... kinda took me out of it for a second thinking "uh... what!?".

 

[nachtschicht]

I'll raise my hand and say i really didnt like the Batpod going up the wall either. I loved the heck out of the truck flip, but the spin kinda made me roll my eyes for some reason. Never understood the fascination with it, but to each their own, we all cant like the same things.

Yep.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

I'm not a big fan of the flip either.

 

[I'm Not a Hero]

The flip could have definitely been taken out. I remember thinking it was cheeseball even the first time I saw it.

 

[Wedge A.]

I can't believe a three-second scene causes this much turmoil.

 

[Gianakin_]

I understand that something very small can take someone out of a film, and I understand why this shot would have that effect, but I disagree SO much with them.

 

[Bads316]

I can't believe a three-second scene causes this much turmoil.

Still, it's step up from arguing about stilettos.

 

[HighFivingMF]

We're still talking about this? Awesome...

 

[aliensarchive]

Not sure how long this will stay up...

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[kvz5]

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/ne...-pays-usd20k-to-replace-pittsburgh-trees.html

'Dark Knight Rises' pays $20k to replace Pittsburgh trees

The Dark Knight Rises team paid "tens of thousands of dollars" to remove a number of trees from the streets of Pittsburgh, it has been revealed

According to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 24 leafy trees were chopped down for filming in order to make the scenes look like they had been filmed in winter.

Originally the leaves were to be plucked. However, officials worried that the trees would have suffered permanent damage.

Producers have also apparently donated a further $20,000 (£12,100) to non-profit group Tree Pittsburgh so replacement trees can be planted.