The Dark Knight Rises OFFICIAL: Batman in the Burgh - Part 7

[Yurka]

I think people are reacting to the audio itself, not the descriptions of it.

But that's all people who werent there can judge, the audio. I wasn't a big fan of Heath-Jokers voice but thats not the entire performance.

The way I interpreted the voice (and physical acting) was, this guy has been through a helllll of a lot, and has no patience for any BS anymore. So he might sound wheezy and winded, but he'll snap your neck or slit your throat in a second.

 

[Sharkboy]

That doesn't matter.

Fanboys got what they want with TDK. We got arguably the best live action Batman movie ever.

If Fanboys got what they want, and he thinks that fanboys getting what they want turns a movie to ****, that means that TDK was ****.

Correct?

I was refering to Spidey 3. Correct me on this if I'm wrong, but didn't the studio pretty much force Venom onto Raimi? Because everyone was clamouring for him (guilty as charged) Clearly, his heart was not in it, because his great looking sandman story was all mucked up.

And yeah yeah before you use it, the "Flint Marko is the guy who shot ben" story really jumped the proverbial shark as well, but everything else seemed pretty strong. (the birth of sandman scene is one of the most beautiful things in that entire trilogy)

TDK is that rarity of a film that managed to please both film lovers and fanboys, but my point is Nolan is clearly someone who takes liberties in order to make a great film. I seem to recall all the permawhite arguments and the "joker looks like the crow, thats not the real joker" comments.

My point being, I'm just glad the fanboys don't run the ship. I couldn't give a **** if Bane was spanish.

 

[obin_gam]

That doesn't matter.

Fanboys got what they want with TDK. We got arguably the best live action Batman movie ever.

If Fanboys got what they want, and he thinks that fanboys getting what they want turns a movie to ****, that means that TDK was ****.

Correct?

no, see:

Correct me if i'm wrong...but didn't Sam say he hated Venom? It was the producers that said the Fans "Wanted" venom. Throw in the pressure and Sam caved. You could tell with the finished product that it wasn't his baby.

Exactly. Producers listend to fans and... well... NOT the the man they had hired...

And regarding that That fact didnt force the script in any way? Well, I would argue it kinda did. You got a vision first, and then get that changed, and its not so easey to try your best making it work if you dont believe in it.

 

[enquencle]

But that's all people who werent there can judge, the audio. I wasn't a big fan of Heath-Jokers voice but thats not the entire performance.

The way I interpreted the voice (and physical acting) was, this guy has been through a helllll of a lot, and has no patience for any BS anymore. So he might sound wheezy and winded, but he'll snap your neck or slit your throat in a second.

Now that sounds a lot better. I wont judge the entire thing until I see it on the big screen. A lot of things change when you see the actual acting and everything is shown as it really is meant to be seen.

 

[jediknight273]

Don't know if anyone has posted these yet but I found them online. No new real spoilers that I spotted:

http://imgur.com/a/3ODH2

 

[senseofcompassi]

no, see:

Exactly. Producers listend to fans and... well... NOT the the man they had hired...

And regarding that That fact didnt force the script in any way? Well, I would argue it kinda did. You got a vision first, and then get that changed, and its not so easey to try your best making it work if you dont believe in it.

Agreed! I thought the dance scene was odd...and some of the dialogue oddball. But, when producers are constantly changing the coarse of the ship how can you expect a writer/directer to deliver the goods. To be honest Sam looked and sounded tired and uninterested with part 3. I mean, when a man clearly says he dislikes a character and that character is put in the final product....don't you think that will have strong impact on the storytelling?

 

[enquencle]

Don't know if anyone has posted these yet but I found them online. No new real spoilers that I spotted:

http://imgur.com/a/3ODH2

Cool pics. I think those havent been posted before. Thanks! t:

 

[obin_gam]

Don't know if anyone has posted these yet but I found them online. No new real spoilers that I spotted:

http://imgur.com/a/3ODH2

Great photos!

 

[Sharkboy]

I'll agree with the dancing and dialogue. However, the spidey movies haven't aged well. I tried watching one the other day and even part 1 is just sorta ok now. They just don't pack the same punch as they did before Nolan got his hands on BB.

They really haven't even the holy grail of comic book movies that is spider man 2, has kinda lost a bit of it's awesomeness lately.

 

[senseofcompassi]

On a side note...did anyone at the Heinz shoot yesterday love when the guy directing the crowd scenes (I'm guessing he was the Director's Assistant) gave a big F U to 3D film! I'm paraphrasing but he basically said..."Why would you want to see a 3D film when you can see something 7 stories tall?)

Classic!

 

[redfirebird2008]

That stadium sequence is probably going to require more CGI than all of TDK.

 

[RedSkull]

Thanks for those stadium pics. I'm wondering how the whole ground will be a crater if just that one section of it is elevated.

 

[senseofcompassi]

They really haven't even the holy grail of comic book movies that is spider man 2, has kinda lost a bit of it's awesomeness lately.

It's really sad too man because i remember sitting in that seat for spidey 2 and it felt like being on top of the world. Sad to see the power of those first two kind fizzle out.

 

[redfirebird2008]

But that's all people who werent there can judge, the audio. I wasn't a big fan of Heath-Jokers voice but thats not the entire performance.

The way I interpreted the voice (and physical acting) was, this guy has been through a helllll of a lot, and has no patience for any BS anymore. So he might sound wheezy and winded, but he'll snap your neck or slit your throat in a second.

Yeah, my reaction to hearing the audio was that he sounded like he was in pain and it makes me curious to find out why he's in pain. From everything we've seen of the production so far, the character's actions are certainly not of some "fragile old man." He's launching terrorist attacks on football stadiums, prison breaks, riots. Seems like a badass to me, regardless of the voice. But I am curious to find out why he's struggling to speak.

 

[Yurka]

Now that sounds a lot better. I wont judge the entire thing until I see it on the big screen. A lot of things change when you see the actual acting and everything is shown as it really is meant to be seen.

On a side note...did anyone at the Heinz shoot yesterday love when the guy directing the crowd scenes (I'm guessing he was the Director's Assistant) gave a big F U to 3D film! I'm paraphrasing but he basically said..."Why would you want to see a 3D film when you can see something 7 stories tall?)

Classic!

It was Nilo Otero, the assistant director who got mistaken for Alon Aboutbol numerous times by the guys in London/India.

His comment "Don't stare at the camera, stare at the things that are different, it's what most people tend to stare at anyway" cracked me up.

 

[WVsax27]

I didn't hear that much complaining from the crowd, aside from this rather large woman who thought it was just crazy she had to walk down a few stairs to get her own water...and she moaned all day that the raffle was rigged(not jokingly).

 

[redfirebird2008]

It's really sad too man because i remember sitting in that seat for spidey 2 and it felt like being on top of the world. Sad to see the power of those first two kind fizzle out.

I've been saying it wasn't that great for a long time, way before SM3 came out and everyone else jumped off the bandwagon. Both SM1 and SM2 are good, but I never thought they were as good as the first two X-Men movies for instance.

 

[senseofcompassi]

Does anyone know if that was "Wally" in the cowboy hat and the jean shorts? I could have swore it was him, but after seeing a closer shot it doesn't look like him.

 

[Sharkboy]

I've been saying it wasn't that great for a long time, way before SM3 came out and everyone else jumped off the bandwagon. Both SM1 and SM2 are good, but I never thought they were as good as the first two X-Men movies for instance.

It's not that they weren't good to begin with, it's just a combination of how high the bar has risen and the "quirky" campy moments scattered throughout the film, that were seen as charming back then but now in a post TDK enviroment where people take their adaptations seriously. They just seem really cheesy.

 

[StarLord]

Don't know if anyone has posted these yet but I found them online. No new real spoilers that I spotted:

http://imgur.com/a/3ODH2

This one is certainly interesting!

Spoiler

 

[senseofcompassi]

It's not that they weren't good to begin with, it's just a combination of how high the bar has risen and the "quirky" campy moments scattered throughout the film, that were seen as charming back then but now in a post TDK enviroment where people take their adaptations seriously. They just seem really cheesy.

Exactly. When an artist raises the bar it can erode quality from previous work. Not to say that sam's first two films are poor...it's just when Nolan created BB that bar went pretty high and Sam's films didn't raise with the bar. Happens a lot but you hate to see it happen to films that once blew you away.

 

[StarLord]

Here's a pretty cool vid of the Tumblers:

http://youtu.be/BWvBV7hFalY

 

[redfirebird2008]

It's not that they weren't good to begin with, it's just a combination of how high the bar has risen and the "quirky" campy moments scattered throughout the film, that were seen as charming back then but now in a post TDK enviroment where people take their adaptations seriously. They just seem really cheesy.

But see, X2 was already sitting right there without the camp of SM2 (or the cliched damsel in distress rehash of the first movie). But people ignored it because it's Spider-Man and they wanted to believe it was the "ZOMG best thing ever." X2 is underrated in that sense. It's less flawed than Nolan's Batflicks or something like SM2.

 

[Yurka]

Does anyone know if that was "Wally" in the cowboy hat and the jean shorts? I could have swore it was him, but after seeing a closer shot it doesn't look like him.

The wicker cowboy hat, grayish T and jorts? Yeah that was him

 

[twostep]

What's the story with the field? Did they actually raise part of it or is it one of those street 3d things ala optical illusion?