Comics Official CABLE and DEADPOOL Discussion Thread

[El Bastardo]

I've been iffy-iffy with this book for some time now, too. That said, I haven't stopped buying it, despite my ruthlessness with dropping other books (Ultimate X-Men, anyone? !_!), and I still think Nicieza rocks.

The Burnt Offering was easily the -best- story arc we saw. Following that, there were the few House of M issues, which were still in the same vein and humorous and what not. But then we went into that huge fiasco with Cable losing his powers because they were burning out despite having lost them in TBO and just getting them back... and then that huge techno-search / fool-Deadpool-into-stealing-stuff story journey that consisted of him getting his powers back, except them not really being powers, just uses of technology, and blah blah. That I could've done without. Just give him his damn powers. It's easier.

Then, yeah. Long-winded politics as a result of the Civil War tie-ins. But at least it's not all total nonsense, and fits the Cable characterization from this book. He's not just a soldier anymore.

That said, it really has been really drawn out. I want to see where this whole Messiah Complex goes, and whether it's going to blow up in his face (which it inevitably has to, I think, else it would be really boring). But it's also okay that it's taking a little bit. The title stars two characters, and even in a teambook, things get left on hold with one character to pursue another. So... it's Deadpool's time to shine, and hopefully this will make him more serious and less of a joke in the end. And there will most likely be scenes with Cable in the backdrop of Deadpool's journey. Plus, Cable isn't neutral anymore - not quite. He's joined up with Rogue's team in Adjectiveless, and it's been stated that Carey and Nicieza, sometime in the future, are more or less going to be working together regarding the Cable character, and I think there was a passing comment that we can be expecting something huge regarding Cable.

The link (courtesy of the X-Men thread): http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9274
Initially Cable is talked about roughly halfway down the page, then the Carey-Nicieza bit is a bit past that (follows the section about Pan).

 

[squeekness]

Thanks. That gives me some hope for this book. I also love Nicieza (Hawkeye anyone? I think I might have been the only one who read that....), I enjoyed his work on Gambit's first ongoing.

 

[Specter313]

Artist Reilly Brown tells us what it's like getting to work with two of Marvel's most eclectic characters in the pages of Cable & Deadpool.


Reilly Brown said Marvel was looking for an artist who was good at drawing a variety of genres and that's how he got the chance to lend his skills to the pages of Cable & Deadpool. "I was good at drawing both comedic and serious action scenes, so I fit the bill," Brown said.

"Some of my biggest comics-specific influences over the years have been Jim Lee, John Byrne, Art Adams, Frank Cho, and Jim Cheung," Brown continued. "I also read a lot of foreign comics, especially from Japan, and have been influenced by Katsuhiro Otomo, Masamune Shiro, Hiroaki Samura and Tite Kubo. I'm sure I'm forgetting a lot too."


Although well versed in a variety of comic books from around the world, Brown noted that he's been a Cable fan for a long time because of the mythos surrounding the character. "I've always loved how crazy and complicated his history is, with his ties to the X-Men and all the time-traveling stuff, clones, and everything else." Brown admitted. "You can really only find characters like Cable in comics!"

"And Deadpool was one of my favorite comic books for a while," he continued. "I love the character's completely Attention Deficit Disorder, over-the-top personality, plus the fact that even though he's such a clown, he's a complete bad ass as well! Deadpool works best when he seems a little over the top. I really like drawing Deadpool's scenes, especially the goofy character moments where I can show off his personality."


If you've missed a few of the recent issues, Brown gave us a synopsis of what Cable and Deadpool have been up to lately. "Cable's pretty much taking over the world, one third-world country at a time, and sometimes Deadpool helps him, sometimes he tries to stop him," Brown said. "Recently they had a big falling out in Civil War and, as Deadpool put it, got 'divorced.' Now Cable's working with his old girlfriend Domino, and they seem to be doing okay, but Deadpool doesn't have any friends any more, and can't seem to get a job and he's pretty miserable."

Brown's not miserable though. He's having a blast with his Ten Ton Studios' mate Jeremy Freeman inking his pencils and with Fabian Nicieza's writing. "It's great [collaborating with Fabian]," Brown said. "He's been in the industry for a long time and really knows what he's doing, and I feel like he has a lot of faith in my work, because sometimes he'll give me a lot of freedom to play around with the story. Sometimes He'll just leave panel descriptions blank and write 'Reilly will figure out something to draw here.' That's pretty cool!"


Issue # 36 of Cable & Deadpool should be in stores soon.

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=005896

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I've been iffy-iffy with this book for some time now, too. That said, I haven't stopped buying it, despite my ruthlessness with dropping other books (Ultimate X-Men, anyone? !_!), and I still think Nicieza rocks.

The Burnt Offering was easily the -best- story arc we saw. Following that, there were the few House of M issues, which were still in the same vein and humorous and what not. But then we went into that huge fiasco with Cable losing his powers because they were burning out despite having lost them in TBO and just getting them back... and then that huge techno-search / fool-Deadpool-into-stealing-stuff story journey that consisted of him getting his powers back, except them not really being powers, just uses of technology, and blah blah. That I could've done without. Just give him his damn powers. It's easier.

Then, yeah. Long-winded politics as a result of the Civil War tie-ins. But at least it's not all total nonsense, and fits the Cable characterization from this book. He's not just a soldier anymore.

That said, it really has been really drawn out. I want to see where this whole Messiah Complex goes, and whether it's going to blow up in his face (which it inevitably has to, I think, else it would be really boring). But it's also okay that it's taking a little bit. The title stars two characters, and even in a teambook, things get left on hold with one character to pursue another. So... it's Deadpool's time to shine, and hopefully this will make him more serious and less of a joke in the end. And there will most likely be scenes with Cable in the backdrop of Deadpool's journey. Plus, Cable isn't neutral anymore - not quite. He's joined up with Rogue's team in Adjectiveless, and it's been stated that Carey and Nicieza, sometime in the future, are more or less going to be working together regarding the Cable character, and I think there was a passing comment that we can be expecting something huge regarding Cable.

The link (courtesy of the X-Men thread): http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9274
Initially Cable is talked about roughly halfway down the page, then the Carey-Nicieza bit is a bit past that (follows the section about Pan).

I'm gonna have to agree with all of that. I've found myself buying this book out of habit and frankly, I don't even understand it sometimes. All that Black Box mess.....*whew*, right over my head

 

[Nathan]

Ok, can someone tell me what's up with Taskmaster? Is his continuity intact or totally ****ed up?

Why did he change from this

to this

to this

again?

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Not sure but I like his 2nd costume better.

 

[Nathan]

Taskmaster is actually one of my favorite characters, but also one I couldn't give a damn about.

I dislike him in his silly outfit with his prick personality. But love him in his military garb, as a merc and badass attitude. It's like there are two Marvel characters that go by the name of Taskmaster.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, I'd kill to have him back like when he was in Agent X.

 

[Specter313]

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CABLE & DEADPOOL #39
Written by FABIAN NICIEZA
Penciled by REILLY BROWN
Cover by SKOTTIE YOUNG
In his never-ending battle against Truth, Justice and the American Way, Deadpool decides to foil -- yes, we did say foil -- the escalating mercenary cred being gained by his sort-of doppleganger -- yes, we did say doppleganger -- AGENT X!
But... what will DP do if, in the course of his making a big mess of Agent X's assignment, he finds out that Agent X is working on the side of the good guys?
Meanwhile, some very big subplot stuff with Cable that we're not telling you yet! Part 3 of 4.
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99​

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Agent X....YES!!!!!!

 

[Specter313]

BRIEFING US ON ‘CABLE & DEADPOOL’
Writer Fabian Nicieza discusses his ‘Unfinished Business’ arc and tells us why a bullet in the head between friends is no biggie
By Paul Florez

Posted January 27, 2007 11:15 AM​

The last thing you’d think Fabian Nicieza had on his to-do list was designing a Cable and Deadpool underwear line, especially as Marvel’s Civil War nears its dramatic end. Well, the Marvel writer is full of laughs, but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t given thought to the future of Cable and Deadpool’s post-Civil War relationship.

As those who’ve been following Civil War know, Deadpool was helping the government track down the superheroes who refused to comply with the Superhuman Registration Act, while Cable was harboring heroes who were anti-registration in Providence. Their quarrel ended with Deadpool shooting Cable in the back of the head. Et tu, Deadpool?

Now, in Nicieza’s new arc, “Unfinished Business,” Deadpool flies solo and will be confronting enemies from his past. Cable might be MIA for this arc, but Nicieza sat down with us to talk about his plans for Marvel’s infamous duo, as well as any regrets he had for 2006.

WIZARD: So what’s up with Cable at the end of Civil War?

NICIEZA: He’s at his South Pacific island haven of Providence, or running around with his X-Men making the world safe for ancillary licensing revenue.

And Deadpool?

NICIEZA: In his apartment watching a “Maude” marathon on TV Land.

Well then, that explains why they’re kicking each other’s asses during Civil War.
NICIEZA: Well, Cable certainly got quite a bit more involved than he’d hoped to, but for Deadpool, any side that gives him a badge, perceived legitimacy and lets him go kick ass is the side he’s going to choose. Complete self-gratification.

But for God’s sake, he shot Cable in the back of the head. They aren’t recovering from that.

NICIEZA: Well, the shooting is pretty much an average Tuesday for those two, so they can get over that.

What else can you tell us about their post-Civil War relationship?

NICIEZA: As with everything in the Marvel Universe, the answer is: big changes.

With Civil War coming to an end, and the start of the New Year, what are these guys’ resolutions?

NICIEZA: Cable’s is to survive his rediscovered fame within the halls of Mighty Marvel. As for Deadpool, his is to prevent his jealousy over Cable’s rediscovered fame from spiraling him into a murderous depression.

Hmm, Cable better keep watching his back during this new arc then.

NICIEZA: Cable, I’ll be darned, I don’t think he’s even in the arc!

So what is Deadpool going to be doing in the arc?

NICIEZA: A lot of hittin’, hollerin’ and humor. The return of some Deadpool supporting cast members not seen in a while! The return of Taskmaster! The Rhino! Agent X! And a big surprise baddie for the last chapter.
With 2006 over, did you accomplish everything you set out to do with these characters?

NICIEZA: No. I had hoped we could get a licensing line of fashionable men’s underwear produced with both characters. So really, nothing went exactly as I had planned at all.

Tough break. But there had to have been a ton of unused ideas for the book.

NICIEZA: Nope. Since the very beginning, when Marvel called me up—and let’s face it, they must have been ridiculously desperate to call me up—I have been given an absurdly free hand in developing my storylines.

I guess you’re having an easy time writing the book then.

NICIEZA: The book is nowhere near as easy to write as it might seem. Trying to marry two very different personalities and story parameters on a month-in and month-out basis isn’t always a skip in the park. I think Marvel has been wonderfully patient.

Where do you want these characters to be at by the end of 2007?

NICIEZA: I would like them to be in a comic book. Preferably in one that says “Cable & Deadpool” on the cover—which in and of itself continues to be one hell of an accomplishment. I might as well pat myself on the back, since no one else will.

Last question, since Cable isn’t in this arc: What demons is he struggling with off-screen?

NICIEZA: Donald Rumsfeld. Not because he really is responsible for Cable’s problems, but he is responsible for so many real ones, that we might as well blame him for one more.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/003219407.cfm

 

[El Bastardo]

Originally posted by Specter in the X-Men thread, interview by Mike Carey. Excerpt that pertains to Cable:

"Cable’s the character on your team who’s got his own book, albeit shared with Deadpool. Has that shared ownership of the character created any difficulties in writing him?

No, not at all. We’ve got an arc coming up that takes the team to Cable’s Providence and I’ve used one or two of the characters from Fabian’s cast. I’d have liked to have used more actually and made it more of an informal crossover between the two books but the problem with that is that Deadpool is such a unique, such a strong flavour that when you bring him in he changes everything around him and the story you want to tell gets skewed in a Deadpool direction; but what we have got coming up in #197-199 is a story that changes Cable’s status in a way that will play out in the Cable and Deadpool book as well.

Does that mean he’ll be leaving the X-Men team?

No, but there are big changes there for the character and some of them are surprising changes. Fabian [Nicieza] is very much onboard and we set the whole thing up together."

Pretty much just reaffirms what was previously posted, but eh.

 

[Specter313]

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CABLE & DEADPOOL #40
Written by FABIAN NICIEZA
Penciled by REILLY BROWN
Cover by SKOTT YOUNG
"Fractured" Part 1 (of 3)
Picking up from the furious action in X-Men, an alien soul vampire called the Hecatomb is rampaging across Cable's South Pacific haven of Providence. The only way to stop this creature is for Cable to restore his telepathy and telekinesis -- but the only way to do that might be to make a deal with the Devil itself -- an alien parasite called the Mummadrai. To save his dream, will Cable sacrifice his soul?
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

 

[Specter313]

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Written by FABIAN NICIEZA
Penciled by REILLY BROWN
Cover by SKOTTIE YOUNG

He's a rough n' ready lumbering tank with a great big mad-on for the Merc With A Mouth. The last time these two faced off, Deadpool turned Rhino into a keychain. What happens when Deadpool tracks down Spidey's favorite rawhide in order to make amends for past misdeeds?
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99

 

[Max J Power]

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CABLE & DEADPOOL #40
Written by FABIAN NICIEZA
Penciled by REILLY BROWN
Cover by SKOTT YOUNG
"Fractured" Part 1 (of 3)
Picking up from the furious action in X-Men, an alien soul vampire called the Hecatomb is rampaging across Cable's South Pacific haven of Providence. The only way to stop this creature is for Cable to restore his telepathy and telekinesis -- but the only way to do that might be to make a deal with the Devil itself -- an alien parasite called the Mummadrai. To save his dream, will Cable sacrifice his soul?
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

Cable reminds me of Hellboy on this cover.

 

[Specter313]

Artist Reilly Brown recently broke into comics with his first monthly series, taking over the artistic reins on the Fabian Nicieza-penned Cable and Deadpool. Since his start with the House of Ideas back in June of last year, Brown has turned out six issues for the fan-favorite series. We caught up with Brown at New York Comic Con to ask about all things Cable and Deadpool and what it’s like to work with X-legend Fabian Nicieza.

WIZARD: What’s it like to be working on Cable and Deadpool?

REILLY BROWN: It’s been awesome, very cool. What I like about it a lot is because there aren’t many… Well, so many of Marvel’s book are so dark and serious, there aren’t many comics that do comedy – but the ones that do comedy are completely comedy. Those are awesome. The thing I’ve always loved about comics is the middle ground, you know? Comedy and action. Cable and Deadpool is the only comic that does that.

Were you a fan of Cable and Deadpool prior to your work on the book?

BROWN: I always loved the X-Men, and I always thought Cable was awesome. Deadpool is the most underrated character. If more people knew who Deadpool was, he’d be so freaking popular.

Well, he was a playable character in both the “X-Men Legends II” and “Marvel: Ultimate Alliance” video games… That has to count for something, right?

BROWN: He’s definitely the hero of the A.D.D. generation. [Laughs] That’s what I love about the book - it gives me a chance to do completely insane stuff and then do serious action stuff.

How is it working with writer Fabian Nicieza?

BROWN: It’s really cool. He’s great. When I was first getting into comics, he was the writer, he was doing X-Force and he did X-Men. Plus, he was the guy who originally created Deadpool, so it’s cool to actually work with the person who created the character.

Are you allowed to provide any ideas or thoughts for upcoming storylines?

BROWN: A certain amount. A couple of times we’ve sat down to have dinner and talk about the character, and it’s always cool when I get a script and it’s like, “We were talking about that!” I just finished issue #38, which has Deadpool fighting Agent X - which was something we talked about. He’s definitely writing the story of things I’m interested in as well.

What’s your schedule like these days?

BROWN: I actually wasn’t able to draw issue # 37 with Rhino, which sucks, because of the whole crossover-scheduling thing I’m working on. But, deadlines are tough. I get up at 7:30 in the morning and I work till 1:30 at night.

Tell us about this crossover you’re working on… Is it a big X-Men crossover?

BROWN: I don’t know, maybe… It’s a crossover with X-Men. It involves Cable, Deadpool, and Mike Carey’s X-Men. That’s all I really know at this point.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/003636064.cfm

 

[Sugarculted]

Did anyone actually enjoy the recent issue? It wasn't anything special, it seems nowadays I'm buying this only because it's Deadpool...and he hasn't been that funny, either.

Past two issues haven't been great. Really thinking of dropping this comic.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Did anyone actually enjoy the recent issue? It wasn't anything special, it seems nowadays I'm buying this only because it's Deadpool...and he hasn't been that funny, either.

Past two issues haven't been great. Really thinking of dropping this comic.

Couldn't agree more. I buy it to see what Cable is up to as well but his issues always put me to sleep with all the political talk.

 

[cerealkiller182]

I think its about to get good. the Civil War crossover BS is over and Cable and Deadpool are just going to readjust to the universe and then it will be BA.

 

[LadyVader]

Did anyone actually enjoy the recent issue? It wasn't anything special, it seems nowadays I'm buying this only because it's Deadpool...and he hasn't been that funny, either.

Past two issues haven't been great. Really thinking of dropping this comic.

You mean 37? Well maybe not as good as the previous 2, but still funny as hell to me. I'm really looking forward to the return of Agent X given the fact that the last time those two faced eachother I was in stiches.

Agent X: I was hired to take you out.
Deadpool: By who?
Agent X: By whom, you social ******.

 

[Mr. Green]

Does anyone else not like Reilly Brown's art? I mean, it's not too bad or anything, but the colorist and inker make it look terrible. I would prefer the people doing the covers to step up and start doing the interiors.

What do you guys think?

 

[Sugarculted]

Does anyone else not like Reilly Brown's art? I mean, it's not too bad or anything, but the colorist and inker make it look terrible. I would prefer the people doing the covers to step up and start doing the interiors.

What do you guys think?

Well, I agree. Looking back at his pencilled work before it's inked and coloured, it doesn't look half bad. I actually quite like it, but the colourist and inkers make it look like crap.

But yeah, you mean the cover art from like, 10 issues ago? Because I'd probably burn the comic if it had all of that Skotty Young's art in

 

[CyberFaust]

i kinda like the art

 

[Specter313]

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Cable & Deadpool #38 will arrive in stores on March 21 from Marvel Comics. The issue is written by Fabian Nicieza, with art by Reilly Brown and a cover by Skottie Young.

Here's how Marvel describes the issue:

"What's happening to Cable? The mummudrai -- a parasitic life form -- has been set loose on Providence. Now, Cable's vision for a perfect society is thrown into chaos when he must fight to save his territory -- and his own mind -- from this new predator."

Cable & Deadpool #38 will be 32 pages and will cost $2.99.

 

[Sugarculted]

Just gimme back Zircher. The new preview just doesn't do anything for me. Tempted to rid of my whole C&D collection, just to buy the first few tpb's of this now.