Official Contest of Marvels II Discussion Thread

[hippy fascist]

I like. I may throw the match to get this prize.

So, that would explain why both of my debates have completely raped my opponents whereas you have had your ass handed to you twice...hmmm...

 

[Phaedrus45]

just out of interest, since we said we are using most the most current versions of characters (except for some mutants: m-day) does this mean deathloc is the michael collins version currently in beyond?

I won't say it's the same one that is in Beyond; simply for the fact that Beyond is currently happening, and events in that book cannot be used. But, it is the classic Deathloc, the one from his series he had in the early 90's.

 

[Phaedrus45]

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[WOLVERINE25TH]

Iceman, I have th' Excel list. PM me yer E-Mail.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Yeah, as Phaed said, current going minis and storylines aren't included in the 'current version' criteria, as something could happen mid-storyline that could change the character mid-tourney, and that could cause problems. Therefor, if someone is in a mini (like Deathloc) that is still going when this thing began, the next previous version is the one to use... and so, like Phaed said, it was Deathloc of the 90's.

 

[hippy fascist]

Yeah, as Phaed said, current going minis and storylines aren't included in the 'current version' criteria, as something could happen mid-storyline that could change the character mid-tourney, and that could cause problems. Therefor, if someone is in a mini (like Deathloc) that is still going when this thing began, the next previous version is the one to use... and so, like Phaed said, it was Deathloc of the 90's.

does that mean I can use spells nico used in CWYA&R since that's out of CoMII continuity

 

[JewishHobbit]

Actually, I would say yes you can use them. Way to take a rule that hurts some characters and using it for good

 

[Iceman]

Iceman, I have th' Excel list. PM me yer E-Mail.

Done.

Thanks buddy

So, that would explain why both of my debates have completely raped my opponents whereas you have had your ass handed to you twice...hmmm...

How would me proposing to throw my next match against you to win the 1st round booby prize explain how you won your two matches this week? or are you just fishing for compliments? Actually I don't blame you, you won't be getting many more.

As for me I've had two (of which one is still in the balance) honourable defeats. These will prove to be collectors items in the near future so enjoy

 

[Phaedrus45]

Dammit! Again, two comic boxes my comic shop was suppose to get today went to Arizona. Now, I have to figure out what I'm missing.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Voting Is Over!

 

[Phaedrus45]

The following people have new matches starting tomorrow:

^^Harlekin = 6
^Iceman/Psylocke, ^JewishHobbit, Wiegeabo = 4
Ahura Mazda, Zoken, Trigger = 3
Midnight Ice, Phaedrus45, Hippy Fascist, DarkHellRider = 2
Darthphere = 1

(A "^" by your name indicates a re-match from the following week.)


Total wins for Round 1:

Darthphere, Phaedrus45 = 4
Hippy Fascist, Kytrigger, DarkHellRider = 3
AhuraMazda, Wiegeabo, Hellstormer, JewishHobbit = 2
Zoken, Harlekin, Wolverine25th, MidnightIce, Trigger = 1
AnnoyingSilence, Iceman/Psylocke = 0

Total losses for Round 1:

Wolverine25th, Trigger = 4
AhuraMazda, Hellstormer, MidnightIce, Zoken, Darthphere = 3
Kytrigger = 2
HippyFascist, AnnoyingSilence, Iceman/Psylocke, Phaedrus45, Wiegeabo = 1
DarkHellRider, Harlekin, JewishHobbit = 0

The following characters advance to Round 2:

Bracket 1: Polaris(TRIGGER) vs. Forge(HIPPYFASCIST)
Bracket 2: Shaman(DARTHPHERE) vs. Maestro(KYTRIGGER)
Bracket 3: Scalphunter(KYTRIGGER) vs. ???
Bracket 4: Quasar(WIEGEABO) vs. Thing(DARKHELLRIDER)
Bracket 5: Dr. Doom(DARKHELLRIDER) vs. Armageddon(HELLSTORMER)
Bracket 6: Basilisk(DARKHELLRIDER) vs. Longshot(HIPPYFASCIST)
Bracket 7: ??? vs. Iron Man(PHAEDRUS45)
Bracket 8: Sunfire-Famine(JEWISHHOBBIT) vs. Magnus-Exiles(HELLSTORMER)

 

[Phaedrus45]

Ok, I have a bad memory when it comes to posting re-matches, as anyone from last season could tell you. So, if I ever forget to post a re-match, please remind me. Of course, we have two that will be posted with this week's matches:

Prodigy-Slingers(HARLEKIN) vs. Donald Pierce(ICEMAN/PSYLOCKE)

Slapstick(HARLEKIN) vs. Abyss-AoA(JEWISHHOBBIT)

Remember, going into these rematches, you will retain all the information you gained from your first match. For example, now Abyss and Slapstick both know what they are going up against; so, they will probably have to adjust their original strategies.


BTW, if anyone wants to take over Powderman's job from last season, he combined both the wins and losses for everyone and posted them with their winning percentage. This lets everyone know where they stand in the rankings. I'd do it, but I'm an English major, not math. Math is my bad subject. (For example, even though Darthphere and I have more wins than anyone else, we wouldn't even be top three on the list. That would go to DarkHellRider, Harlekin, and JewishHobbit, all of who have zero losses, making their winning percentage at 100%.)

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Just wondering does the % make any difference as the way i understand it someone could lose 9/10 characters and win all the other matches with 1 therefore winning the contest...

 

[Darthphere]

4-3. Not bad, ive lost every match I knew I had no chance in.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Well done - so far the characters I have lost have caused me no great hurt. I was worried I was going to lose Fenris to Blink however, and did expect to lose against Morph. I was a bit lucky...

 

[Phaedrus45]

Just wondering does the % make any difference as the way i understand it someone could lose 9/10 characters and win all the other matches with 1 therefore winning the contest...

Yep, it's very important for the other prizes being given away. Of course, the Grand Prize is what you want most...followed by the Runner-Up Prize. But, at the end of Round 1 and Round 2, the person with the highest and lowest winning percentage gets a comic bundle sent to them. Round 1 will be easy to figure out, since we all have the same amount of characters; but, Round 2 will need percentages, since everyone will have different amounts because of characters lost in Round 1.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Yep, it's very important for the other prizes being given away. Of course, the Grand Prize is what you want most...followed by the Runner-Up Prize. But, at the end of Round 1 and Round 2, the person with the highest and lowest winning percentage gets a comic bundle sent to them. Round 1 will be easy to figure out, since we all have the same amount of characters; but, Round 2 will need percentages, since everyone will have different amounts because of characters lost in Round 1.

In that case, I could do the %s but do they have to be correct?

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Yep, it's very important for the other prizes being given away. Of course, the Grand Prize is what you want most...followed by the Runner-Up Prize. But, at the end of Round 1 and Round 2, the person with the highest and lowest winning percentage gets a comic bundle sent to them. Round 1 will be easy to figure out, since we all have the same amount of characters; but, Round 2 will need percentages, since everyone will have different amounts because of characters lost in Round 1.

You do realise that if a person has only 1 character in round 2 and wins, then that person will automatically have a 100% win ratio.

I would think you have to have a prize for the most wins and then % based on a tie

 

[Iceman]

Is there a prize for the %age win over the whole tournament? I think that would be the most meaningful stat as the luck of the draw etc will have evened out by then.

You do realise that if a person has only 1 character in round 2 and wins, then that person will automatically have a 100% win ratio.

I would think you have to have a prize for the most wins and then % based on a tie

Good point.

 

[Harlekin]

Wowee two ties. That means 6 matches coming up. Aye carumba.

Great job I/P and JH. You guys really put up one hell of a fight.

 

[Iceman]

Wowee two ties. That means 6 matches coming up. Aye carumba.

Great job I/P and JH. You guys really put up one hell of a fight.

Thanks. I enjoyed that debate.

Could have done without the rematch this week though. I'm not at all jealous of your 6 matches in one week

 

[Phaedrus45]

Percentage win over the whole contest would mean very little. Everyone would have the same percentage, except for the person who wins the match.

Now, we have percentage being the deciding factor in Round 2 for a very good reason. If your initially team gets slaughtered in Round 1, then it gives you more hope that things will go better for you next time. On the flipside, having the most characters at the end of Round 1 is nice, but it's going to be that much harder for you to keep them during Round 2. In fact, those with high winning percentages in Round 1 find they have much lower in Round 2, and visa versa. In the end, those who did well in the first round tend to be at a bigger disadvantage in the following round, and those who lost a lot of characters will be able to focus their concentration more on their select few that are left.

 

[Iceman]

Percentage win over the whole contest would mean very little. Everyone would have the same percentage, except for the person who wins the match.

I'm confused. Why would everyone have the same percentage? If all your characters go out in round 1 you have a zero percentage overall for the contest. The more matches you win the better your percentage, whenever your characters eventually go out. eg If all your characters win two matches and lose their third you have 66.67% etc.

Now, we have percentage being the deciding factor in Round 2 for a very good reason. If your initially team gets slaughtered in Round 1, then it gives you more hope that things will go better for you next time. On the flipside, having the most characters at the end of Round 1 is nice, but it's going to be that much harder for you to keep them during Round 2. In fact, those with high winning percentages in Round 1 find they have much lower in Round 2, and visa versa. In the end, those who did well in the first round tend to be at a bigger disadvantage in the following round, and those who lost a lot of characters will be able to focus their concentration more on their select few that are left.

Giving those who have lost a lot of characters in round 1 a better chance to win the 2nd round prize is a good reason

 

[Johnny Blaze]

So, how's the contest coming along?

 

[kytrigger]

Phaedrus:

As tough as a decision as it is, I would like Maestro to move on to the next round.