First Avenger OFFICIAL: Hugo Weaving is Red Skull - Part 6/6/44

[The Caped Knight]

I'd say Weaving's Red SKull is on my list of top 5 greatest Marvel CBM Villains.

Who are your top 5 ?

Let me Guess

1. Doc Ock
2. Red Skull
3. Loki
4. Magneto
5. Green Goblin

 

[kedrell]

My top 5 would be:

1&2) Iron Monger or Red Skull(haven't decided which goes where)
3)General William Stryker(X2/Brian Cox version)
4)Loki
5)Whiplash

 

[The Caped Knight]

My top 10
1. Red Skull
2. Doctor Octopus
3. Loki
4. William Stryker (X2)
5. Iron Monger
6. Green Goblin
7. Magneto
8. Whiplash
9. Sabertooth (X-men Origins: Wolverine)
10. Abomination

 

[Secret Fawful]

Favorite filmed villains:

1. Magneto
4. Sebastian Shaw
3. Red Skull
4. Doctor Octopus
5. Iron Monger

Least favorite filmed villains:

1. The Absorbing Man
2. Green Goblin I and II
3. Skinny Venom
4. The Kingpin
5. Galactus

 

[The Shape]

I'll never understand the love for Iron Monger. Bridges was solid, but Iron Monger and that last fight were just so...meh.

Red Skull was loads more fun to watch.

 

[RedSkull]

Definitely my favorite marvel villain. Comics and movie. I didn't like Loki at all. The others I liked were

Doc Ock
Justin Hammer
Whiplash

 

[Herolee10]

Unless Red Skull finds a time portal, I wonder how he'd come back without having aged significantly since his last encounter with CA? I mean unlike CA, he wasn't frozen or put into sleep for the last 70 years.

 

[kedrell]

I'll never understand the love for Iron Monger. Bridges was solid, but Iron Monger and that last fight were just so...meh.

Red Skull was loads more fun to watch.

That end fight was awesome, IMO. Still probably my favorite smack down in a superhero film. I mean it was like nothing I'd ever seen before. And it was resolved cleverly. The one I don't get the love for is Doc Ock. Molina is a fine actor and did a good job at what Raimi told him to do but the movie just went so far away from the character in the comics. It was as if it was the Lizard, as interpreted by Octavius.

Bridges's Stane, despite some circumstancial changes was every bit the character from the comics.

Plus I find Iago-type characters like him to be the worst of all villains.

 

[kedrell]

Unless Red Skull finds a time portal, I wonder how he'd come back without having aged significantly since his last encounter with CA? I mean unlike CA, he wasn't frozen or put into sleep for the last 70 years.

He could have had dealings with others like Loki, Amora or whomever who would have the power to keep him alive.

 

[ciscostudent561]

1) magneto
2) Loki
3) Sebastian shaw
4) doc ock
5) green goblin

Honorable mentions
Abomination, Stryker, azazel, mystique,


I felt red skull was underwhelming... Despite his advantages over Cap- it seemed Cap had him beat most of the movie

 

[RedSkull]

I hope you mean Fassbender Magneto. Old Mckellen sucks.

 

[kedrell]

Personally I don't consider Fassbender's Magneto a villain...yet. He just turned at the very end and to me that doesn't count. Now if they give him a sequel then that WILL count IMO.

 

[BoredGuy]

I'd say for movie villains: 1-Loki, 2-Doc Ock, 3-Stryker, 4-Magneto, distant #5-Red Skull
If we include DC however, Joker jumps to the top of that list

 

[RedSkull]

Wow Stryker and Magneto above Red Skull? SHOW SOME SUPPORT FOR HYDRA

 

[GhostPoet]

Unless Red Skull finds a time portal, I wonder how he'd come back without having aged significantly since his last encounter with CA? I mean unlike CA, he wasn't frozen or put into sleep for the last 70 years.

Well...Red Skull was teleported somewhere...anything could happen now.

 

[kedrell]

I gotta say just how much I loved Red Skull's mountain lair. I want that view, dammit!

 

[Spider-Fan]

1) magneto
2) Loki
3) Sebastian shaw
4) doc ock
5) green goblin

Honorable mentions
Abomination, Stryker, azazel, mystique,


I felt red skull was underwhelming... Despite his advantages over Cap- it seemed Cap had him beat most of the movie

Azazel? Really? He had like, no lines and just teleported. Red Skull was a million times better!!!!

 

[Rock Sexton]

Red Skull just felt like a real comic book villain. You could tell Weaving had fun with the role. Wish they would've written more for him though.

 

[Flemm]

Red Skull just felt like a real comic book villain. You could tell Weaving had fun with the role. Wish they would've written more for him though.

I can't give the Red Skull very high marks tbh. Not that Weaving didn't do a credible job with what he had, but what he had was pretty much standard megalomania in a fairly underwritten role. If not for Weaving's somewhat understated delivery, the character could easily have come across as almost laughably cliché.

Also, I thought that the red skull itself was cooler in the still images than on screen, where it struck me as a bit plastic and fake. The character wasn't especially scary or menacing, and he didn't have any real depth to compensate for the lack of an intimidation factor.

The last confrontation on the plane was effective, though.

 

[ciscostudent561]

Yeah red skull was just underwhelming... Sorry just another boring meglomaniac.

I meant First glass magneto...
He was a villain how blind can u be that in essence he became exactly what prof x was fighting against the whole movie in shaw?
That's like saying two face wasn't a villian in DK

Azazel "raining men" was top ten comic movie of all time scene stuff for me... Gracefully horrific

Hugo was good it was just written weak

And Stryker was pretty gully. He is the only super hero comic movie villain that I absolutely despise. Like I see his face and it's true disgust. That's when you know you got a good villain.

 

[Supasnake]

Yeah red skull was just underwhelming... Sorry just another boring meglomaniac.

I meant First glass magneto...
He was a villain how blind can u be that in essence he became exactly what prof x was fighting against the whole movie in shaw?
That's like saying two face wasn't a villian in DK

Azazel "raining men" was top ten comic movie of all time scene stuff for me... Gracefully horrific

Hugo was good it was just written weak

And Stryker was pretty gully. He is the only super hero comic movie villain that I absolutely despise. Like I see his face and it's true disgust. That's when you know you got a good villain.

Sir how can you say that he was a boring meglomaniac??? That's like saying Apocalypse is just another boring meglomaniac. I think Red Skull's motives were up there with Apocalypse in the fact he wanted to see the world burn, just because they were inferior. I think he could have been developed more, but still provided enough gravitas to know that he was truly insane.

#1 Loki - He is one of the most interesting villains comics-wise and I truly didn't see his setup coming.
#2 Stryker - What he did to his own blood proves he is quite evil.
#3 Red Skull - He wanted to see the world burn.
#5 Fassbender Magneto - Tragic and a great performance.
#6 Iron Monger - What a dick.
#7 Green Goblin - William Defoe was born to play that kind of crazy.
#8 Ian Magneto - So much hate. And Mckellan brought his A game.
#9 Doc Ock - Yes the movie story isn't inline with the comics, but Molina brings a great shakespearean quality to an otherwise lame movie.
#10 Abomination - Cause there's no other good ones out there.

Worst Villains:
Venom - Lets not go there
Sandman - He blows away...
Whiplash - Yawn
Sabretooth - Both xmen
Galactus - meh
Dr Doom - RUINED

Here's hoping for an Apocalypse movie (voice by James Earl Jones).

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

Worst Villains:
Venom - Lets not go there
Sandman - He blows away...
Whiplash - Yawn
Sabretooth - Both xmen
Galactus - meh
Dr Doom - RUINED

Schwarzenegger's Mr. Freeze is too cool for that list.

 

[The Sage]

Sir how can you say that he was a boring meglomaniac??? That's like saying Apocalypse is just another boring meglomaniac. I think Red Skull's motives were up there with Apocalypse in the fact he wanted to see the world burn, just because they were inferior. I think he could have been developed more, but still provided enough gravitas to know that he was truly insane.

That's how I felt about Weaving's Red Skull. Well said.

 

[Raiden]

My top 5 Marvel villains:

1) Doc Ock
2) Magneto (First Class & trilogy)
3) Loki
4) Red Skull
5) Iron Monger (mainly due to Jeff Bridges' performance)

I do hope RS will return in Cap 2.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Why do people like Doc Oc so much? I was bored to tears with him.