First Avenger OFFICIAL: Hugo Weaving is Red Skull

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I mentioned this before but as far as the "disfigured versus mask" debate, my vote goes to disfigured. It just seems like that would be more menacing, not to mention it truly makes him seem more like an irredeemable personification of evil instead of a man in a mask; the Red Skull isn't a character who can be shown in a noble light like Doctor Doom or Magneto, he's a sick, demented madman.

As far as how to show his skull...for anyone who's seen Hellraiser, I like the idea of making his face look like one of the skinless zombies in that movie. Basically, the same way you'd see a human head in any anatomy book when the skin is ripped off, exposing all the muscle and little bits of white bone.
 
Red Skull's face should be burnt somehow. Not a mask. It just shows he's stuck in his evil and demonic visage and can't get out of it.
 
again, i go disfigured, weather it be through the serum, and accident with fire/chemicals, or what have you and weavings casting means he cant act through a mask, so IF they go the maks route, hell still kick ass
 
Anybody else not warming up to Hugo Weaving?

I know he's a good actor, but I'd just prefer a real German. Maybe it's just me...
 
I have to agree with CaptainCanada. I'm not bashing Red Skull - I like the character, and actually think this is a good thing about him. But in the era of sympathetic, nuanced villains, Red Skull has always remained pure evil, devoid of any redeeming qualities.

I see what you're saying, and every now and then I like Villains with more layers to them. It makes them more interesting, but at the same time, I get really annoyed when people try to force things onto characters that aren't there. Like Doc Ock and Sandman.

And I think while it has been an era of sympathetic villains, I think the past two Oscar Winners for best supporting actor will disagree with you.

The Joker and Hans Landa were wonderfully uncompromising and unsympathetic. Pure evil through and through. And they were fun as hell to watch.
 
id also prefer a real german but heah, if this is what we're gettin its what were gettin
 
And I think while it has been an era of sympathetic villains, I think the past two Oscar Winners for best supporting actor will disagree with you.

The Joker and Hans Landa were wonderfully uncompromising and unsympathetic. Pure evil through and through. And they were fun as hell to watch.
Landa wasn't unsympathetic. Certainly you weren't supposed to root for him, but he was extremely likeable, came across as a character with a lot of depth and personality. He was a three-dimensional character.
 
I find it funny that some people consider Hans Landa as uncompromising.

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Pretty sure Landa surrendered his country to the enemy at the end of IB. Not quite the "uncompromising" I would see in a Red Skull. Not saying that Waltz couldn't portray that, but Landa's character isn't exactly uncompromising in the same vein as Red Skull is.
 
cold blooded and if funny than in a very sarcastic and evil manner two or three lines ...why not....all thumbs up for hugo...he has that evil laugh and his eyes can transport a lot of emotions...i just wonder how clear this decision will turn out after all the possible contenders for cap witch now seem to be exchanged again...
 
:lmao: Hey, everyone has a right to their opinions but 90% is a huge stretch. What the hell do you mean by run-of-the-mill anyways?

I'm happy Marvel is getting good to great actors in their films. I can understand it being nice if they got fresh faces so we can see the character rather than a familiar face playing the character but they really are picking some great talent in their self financed films(well Disney is helping finance now as well).

When you say no one will revisit Watchmen twenty years from now, do you mean a remake or people still wanting to watch it?

Not really... the only reason why fans highly regard films like BB, IM, SM2 is because when you compare them to the Elecktras, FF's, X-3, SM3's, GR's of the world, they are a huge upgrade and we make them out to be better than they probably are. Reality is, they are pretty formulaic movies. I'm not sure any of those will go down as classics for cinema of the 2000's. Perhaps standouts of the genre for sure, but not much more than that. I'll be more than happy if Cap meets that standard, but I'm very skeptical. And I am talking about Snyder's film with that last point, no future remakes. **** that... the butchery has been enough. And the run-of-the-mill thing... that is the saying isn't it? How the mill goes round and round and we get the same **** over and over again?
 
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Disfigured/transformed by the bootleg, second-rate Nazi serum....yes.
Disfigured as in burned......no.
Disfigured and wearing a mask.......ummmm, what!? Why would you wear a mask shaped like a red skull to cover up your face which has been disfigured to the look of......a red skull.
 
While Weaving is a safe choice, it is also a solid one. The man ****s gold.
 
I hope people who are complaining about Weaving being a safe choice aren't the one's who were terribly against a certain sitcom star getting the lead role....
 
Landa wasn't unsympathetic. Certainly you weren't supposed to root for him, but he was extremely likeable, came across as a character with a lot of depth and personality. He was a three-dimensional character.

I didn't think he was sympathetic at all. He was likeable in the sense that I loved to hate him. And I'm not saying he's not three dimensional, but I'm saying he's not sympathetic. There was absolutely nothing in his character, or what happened to him, that made me fee any sympathy for him.

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I mean uncompromising in the sense that he is uncompromisingly an through and through evil character. He looked out for himself, and only himself.
 
I see what you're saying, and every now and then I like Villains with more layers to them. It makes them more interesting, but at the same time, I get really annoyed when people try to force things onto characters that aren't there. Like Doc Ock and Sandman.

And I think while it has been an era of sympathetic villains, I think the past two Oscar Winners for best supporting actor will disagree with you.

The Joker and Hans Landa were wonderfully uncompromising and unsympathetic. Pure evil through and through. And they were fun as hell to watch.

Make that the last three Best Supporting Actor winners. You aren't forgetting about Anton Chigurh are ya?
 
i wouldnt mind if maybe they play up mask and then scared/mutated by SSS and face then becomes a red skull.
 
hopefully weaving will be confirmed as red skull. will be great to finally have official word on any casting. Plus if he is announced and hopefully cap in next few days we can finally look at other casting to be coming too. Which like others have said they probably been casting all roles for awhile.
 
At another time the best choice would have been Klaus-Maria Brandauer:

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Who plays a great charismatic self-possessed character in the movie Mephisto:

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I didn't expect to get a confirmation on the villian casting until after they cast Cap . This is good news and hopefully signing up for multiple films doesn't cause him to back away.
 
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