Official JLA discussion thread - Part 1

[Drz]

Not if he makes you remember about you dead parents

In Which the Batman responses: So i was counting how many parents you've lost, i stopped at two.

Anyhow i think it's more than obvious with Johns that Superman will annihilate both characters, but he knows they're good guys once he interrogates them.

 

[Lord]

In Which the Batman responses: So i was counting how many parents you've lost, i stopped at two.

Anyhow i think it's more than obvious with Johns that Superman will annihilate both characters, but he knows they're good guys once he interrogates them.

I tought you were going to mention superman's race being completelly extinct

 

[HighFivingMF]

Superman will be treated as if he was dumb, again

Yeah, that one thing he said that nobody got to respond to? Total moron!

 

[Mystirious]

But then he'd still be walking on it. Batman would turn it into vapor.

"Batman! We'll all die of thirst now!"
"Looks like I turned that water into whine."
*Batman puts on sunglasses*

Yeeeeeeaaaaaahhhh!

Well, to be fair, he did just see him knock the f**k outta Green Lantern

First Superman starts wearing a hoody now he's happy slapping people

He'll be stealing cd's from HMV next

 

[bugman]

so i just read jla #1 and...i enjoyed it. not as much as morrison's, but i did find it cool to sort of start at the beginning, or at least before everything was in full swing. i've never been a jim lee fan, but i did enjoy his art. one of my favorite elements of dc comics is the way folks interact with batman, especially a colorful chucklehead like hal jordan. that was fun. i don't love the costume redesigns--too much weird collar action on everybody--but for the moment, i'm open-minded about this dc experiment.

 

[dony2012]

What was the story on Morrison's JLA 1#?

 

[Mystirious]

It was about the White Martians secretly invading the Earth

It was a really good story arc. I loved Morrison's JLA stories he did a great job with some classic JLA villains and created some fab new ones too

And he created Tomorrow Woman. I loves Tomorrow Woman

 

[X Knight]

so.....how much is Superman in this new JLA #1?

does he just show up at the end??

 

[Franklin Richards]

Yes.

 

[X Knight]

Yes.

thanks!

 

[X Knight]

oh.....and what's the retail price of the new JLA #1?

 

[trustyside-kick]

Morrison's whole run didn't meet my expectations. I only read it a few years ago, so people's constant praise may have gotten my expectation a wee bit too high, but still.

I liked some of the ideas Morrison had, like the JLA taking on some of the more abstract threats that can't just be punched into submission.

I agree. I didn't read the JLA Morrison run til people said "if you want to read JLA mainly get Morrison's stuff because after it is not as great" and...having read all of Morrison's JLA stuff and then some arcs afterward I find myself liking the stuff AFTER Morrison's JLA much more than his JLA. And I was not impressed with his JLA either. I think it is a book you had to have read when it came out really to appreciate it. I don't feel it is timeless.

 

[Keyser Soze]

To me, the least timeless aspect of Morrison's JLA is the 90s art. That dates the book quite a bit, and can initially make it harder to get into. But the actual writing still holds up.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Also, complaining about Batman being a ridiculous badass is like complaining about Superman flying. That's just who he is, and to expect otherwise is setting yourself up for disappointment.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Mayhaps the art was a factor, though if anything I'd blame it on the colorist more than the penciler, but at the same time I was really annoyed by the similarities between the arcs: Batman finds out something crucial to winning, and every damn time Steel's suit is somehow deactivated. I mean what was the damn point of Steel being on the team? I'm serious he did NOTHING. I can only imagine that Steel fans hated JLA. And the Batman thing...maybe because it was the first time that Batman was written in such a manner it was exciting compared to past JLA stories, but the fact that I knew that about Batman ahead of time annoyed the hell out of me of how frequent it was. I came to understand that Morrison is the guy to blame for all the crazy BatGodness and over-praising that he is the Goddamn Batman and can beat anyone. And that's what I HATE about Batman. My favorite Batman stories from his own titles are from him being...a man? Not BatGod. Intelligent within reason.

 

[Mystirious]

To me, the least timeless aspect of Morrison's JLA is the 90s art. That dates the book quite a bit, and can initially make it harder to get into. But the actual writing still holds up.

Really?

I thought the art for that series was pretty decent overall

 

[trustyside-kick]

#2 will decide for me if the DCnU is worth it or not. I know that's maybe going overboard, but if they have Bats own/humiliate/outsmart/outanything Superman, then I'll say the hell with it.

I will not drop the title but I'd be pissed to where I'd lose some respect for Johns. I'm fine with Bats being a brains type of guy over brawns. But within freaking reason given the situation. If Johns writes it in that Bats doesn't outsmart Superman but he IMPRESSES him rather? Thus causing Superman to kind of stop or like that quality that impresses him since he is just a man...then fine. But I swear Batman better not somehow beat Superman or make Superman look like an idiot.

And I'm not even a Superman "fan". I just don't want dumb and annoying writing.

 

[dony2012]

It was about the White Martians secretly invading the Earth

It was a really good story arc. I loved Morrison's JLA stories he did a great job with some classic JLA villains and created some fab new ones too

And he created Tomorrow Woman. I loves Tomorrow Woman

Oh, like in the JL cartoon?

 

[Keyser Soze]

Really?

I thought the art for that series was pretty decent overall

It's good art. But it is a very 90s style, hence it hurting the timeless quality trusty was referring to.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Timeless is unachievable in comics. Every era has it's own style. So to suggest that modern art is timeless is a fallacy.

 

[Anubis]

This is true....except for them people who draw like people in a different time period.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Pastiche doesn't count.

 

[bugman]

I came to understand that Morrison is the guy to blame for all the crazy BatGodness and over-praising that he is the Goddamn Batman and can beat anyone. And that's what I HATE about Batman. My favorite Batman stories from his own titles are from him being...a man? Not BatGod. Intelligent within reason.

i feel like that it was frank miller who established the batman-defies-all-logic-and-proves-that-cynical-wits-trumps-all-else in the dark knight, specifically with his take down of supes, but also with the general impunity with which he operates. morrison certainly ran with it--and, i'm sorry, but the sequence where he is revealing to the martians that he knows who they are, all confident and cold, well, that was pretty awesome. but the other poster made a good point about this complaint being similar to complaining about superman flying--that's just a part of their characters. which DOES make it pretty wild when promethius out techniques batman, or superman gets roughed up by doomsday.

 

[Franklin Richards]

It's the one way street that tends to bother me.


People will lose their mind when Hal Jordan sucker punches Batman, but let Batman take off Hal's ring without him knowing and it's perfectly understandable.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I think both Hal Jordan "one-punching" Batman and Batman outwitting Green Lantern in those respective stories were fine. It's just some people treat their favorite characters like their favorite sport teams and get outraged whenever they're depicted as "losing", as if the stories were real.