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Do we know that the stones Loki showed the Hood are the real ones? Could she be tricking him somehow perhaps? You can never trust Loki for a minute.....

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Loki is the God of mischief and all. She's certainly shown throughout the Marvel universe that she really doesn't usually have good intentions. Somehow Loki will benefit from whatever happens. Could be a way to screw with Norman Osborn further because I know her and Doom don't really enjoy being "bossed" around by Osborn.

Should be interesting to see where that plot thread goes.
 
That would require trusting that Bendis knows what he's doing, which a lot of people on here aren't convinced of.
 
Neither am I, haha. Though I have enjoyed the book very consistently for the past year or so. I am really enjoying Immonen on the artwork. I think he works very well on this book.
 
I liked the Mockingbird stuff in the preview of the last issue. But I've tried and been burned by New Avengers 3 or 4 times now, so I'm not gonna go back again.
 
I've pretty much enjoyed this series right from the beginning. :) Maybe it's because I didn't know the Avengers that well before this. :p
 
That seems to be a common theme with people who are really into the Bendisvengers. Makes sense; not knowing what the franchise was like before the tumultuous changes in tone, roster, and just about everything else that Bendis introduced means those changes aren't really changes, they're just how the franchise has always been.
 
Can someone please tell me exactly what does the Sentry do?
Again this guy shows up, big entrance and in 2 seconds is immobilized,ineffective and just a complete lost.
It happened in Secret Invasion.It has Happened in Dark Avengers with Morgan le Fey and it just happened again. The only time it didn't happen was in WW Hulk, but it took 5 issues to convince him to do it. If this is what if Superman was in the MU .It Sucks! My boy shows up, "Here I am to save the Day!" and then curls up into a ball, gets scared and runs off or Some *&^%$ happens to him. I think it's like "ok this dude is so powerful.He can finish any fight in seconds, but we cant have that, sooo make him unable to do it 2 seconds."
i already see some other year's event Dude turns bad and everybody has to stop him.
Boo!

The Sentry is written to be this ambiguous, vastly powerful character with no equal, who also generates a vastly powerful villan who's also thought to have no equal.

He suffers from several different phobias, and at least a couple personality disorders, which highly inhibit his ability to use his power. Originally, he'd forgo this but shedding his fears and doubts becoming the Sentry, gaining vast power. However, this came at the cost of bringing to life the Void, which is apparently the representation of everything Robert wants to be, but is muddled by his fears and frustrations, and so the Sentry is always the more powerful of the two. Generally speaking, Robert actually believes the more power he uses raises the chance of a Void attack, which was later retconned into whenever he BECAME the Sentry, the Void attacked however many people the Sentry saved. However, it's still believed the more power the Sentry accesses, and greater deeds he does, the more powerful the Void becomes, and the more evil he does. So the Sentry I guess is now trying to contain his entire personality in one form, resulting in this s***storm Bendis is writing, since before, the Sentry wasn't like this at all.

As for what he can do? It's known he can fly, stay invulnerable, is nearly immune to telepathic intrusion, moves faster than lightspeed, can hear even the most smallest of sounds like beetles walking along the ground in Africa while he's in the Sentry Watchtower in New York, is stronger than the Hulk (the Sentry apparently he's stronger than the Void, who apparently is stronger than the Hulk), can shoot energy blasts, can apparently reformat matter, or at least biology (it is implied he rearranged his psychiatrist's daughter's brain so she no longer suffered from a developmental disease), and can apparently bring people back to life (in the case of his wife).

He's usually rumored to simply just be the most powerful guy walking around, with an alleged battle with Galactus resulting in Galactus going away in a tie, crushing Terrax, annihilating Attuma, fighting off the entirety of the Inhumans, and eating up Black Bolt's voice: and all without any effort (omit the Galactus thing), which is reinforced by him saying he's actually never gone all out in the past. (Though, apparently, he had to go all out against War Hulk, which sorta mega crap nerfs him into the ground, or it's explained as being persuaded to not utilize his power as he'd also be a great destroyer rather than hero. There's camps on each side of that). When he was fighting the most current of Earth based Ultron models, he apparently wasn't having much trouble fighting Ultron, and really more or less was eating blows to prevent from hurting the host, when Ultron uncharacteristically asked the Sentry why wouldn't he just leave Earth, and everybody behind? Effectively moving away from his standard stance of killing life, which leads to the idea the Sentry is above the current Ultron's ability to destroy. Also, he apparently was having no problem fighting against the Collective, which contained at least five Omega level mutant powers within it.

*points to butt*

:D



Bendis either:

Can't write really powerful character so he chooses to nerf them instead

or

Really dislikes Strange, Sentry, and Thor

He nerfed Strange, but to his credit, he actually portrayed the Sentry pretty well in the power department. Sentry was too powerful to use, and either easily handled situations as a last resort.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Loki is the God of mischief and all. She's certainly shown throughout the Marvel universe that she really doesn't usually have good intentions. Somehow Loki will benefit from whatever happens. Could be a way to screw with Norman Osborn further because I know her and Doom don't really enjoy being "bossed" around by Osborn.

Should be interesting to see where that plot thread goes.

Bendis has this nice ability to build build build build plots, then have them fall flat in the end, with lots of mischaracterization. If you think you're getting a cunning Loki, well...think again. :csad:

I liked the Mockingbird stuff in the preview of the last issue. But I've tried and been burned by New Avengers 3 or 4 times now, so I'm not gonna go back again.

Eh, I'm not thrilled with Mockingbird, or any of the NA stuff.

I've pretty much enjoyed this series right from the beginning. :) Maybe it's because I didn't know the Avengers that well before this. :p

Unfortunately, that's why. :P But hey, as long as you enjoy it, no reason to not buy. =D

Except your dog won't be returned to you, since you're supporting Bendis financially. =D
 
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hehe Thanks MG, but i knew all about the Sentry "Million suns exploding, Super Poweful ,Void yadda yadda stuff going on. thanks anyway though.
It was purely a Rhetorical question.It was more like why is this guy a Super Hero? He's not a "Hero".Everytime it's "Oh No it's the Sentry!! Dude shows up and starts to cry, rolls up in a ball like one of those Rolly Polly bugs i use to step on as a kid and thats it.
If i was a crook i would be.
Me:Look behind you. It's the Void!
Sentry: The Void!!!!( curls up into ball and starts to suck thumb)( yuck!)
The Void! The Void! I cant handle the Void!
Me: As i take female hostage dressed as showgirl in bank. OH Baby! We are going to get some Rum and i am taking you to Monte Carlo!
hehe! ( of course it would be of her own free will cause i have the bank's money now)
That dude got punked by the Punisher. The Punisher!!!! I love me some Punisher but Pun should have been a spot on the wall next to Mr. million suns exploding.The Shroud ( i love that guy. He so needs to show up) is a better freaking Hero than this putz.
The Sentry needs to get his own book .So he can stay the hell out of the ones i am buying. For me as a hero that guy is a big fat Zero

Well removing word Voodoo from his name and not dressing like a male stripper would both help.
HAHAHA
i agree i never like Voodoo for a name.I'm baptist! Hehe and my boys fashion sense is deplorable. dude really needs some cool as thread, but Jar Jar Kit?!? Jar Jar was the worst my friend. I would have totally stab that dude with a lightsaber from the beginning.

.... oh and rum is the Devil's brew. That Cap'n Morgan is a Taskmaster!( and no not the Orange and Blue Skullface guy)
:cwink:
 
lol Unfortunately, that's the Sentry now as portrayed by Bendis. Apparently beforehand, the Sentry didn't mind/actively sought down the Void to either beat him into oblivion or toss his rearside into the Sun. Even before when the Sentry went to the Negative Zone, where the Void is more powerful than the Sentry, mental breakdowns were not something he did.
 
You forgot alchoholic (which means he's one of my favourite heroes apparently) :o
 
The Sentry boozes it up, too? I thought he just ingested random, untested chemicals.
 
Nope. Guy's a souse. In his mini, he woke up in the middle of the night to get a flask he was hiding in his books, and his wife came in yelling that he said he'd go to the meetings and get help. Then she said she couldn't take it, took the dog, and went to her parents.
 
Haha, I do vaguely remember that now, come to think of it. It's been a while since I read the old Sentry stuff.
 
Yeah, back when he was written by someone who could graduate the third grade, and nobody would question it. =/
 
Well, back before said writer wrote the infamous Cap don't know s**t about My Space rant.
 
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Heh, true. He was still mostly known for the Marvel Knights Inhumans series back then. Strange how quick perceptions of writers can turn.
 
I do too, for the most part anyway. But he's damaged goods.
 
Only from Monday through Friday. On the Weekends he's the Divine Miss M.
 
Sooooooo
[BLACKOUT] the Hood has gotten the ability from Loki's stones to shoot rainbow hued Explosive bullets. WHAT THE &^%$$ is that?!?![/BLACKOUT]
Boo.
 

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