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He was stopped wasn't he? That's just stupid writing. Have a movie about preventing sentinels from existing, but have Magneto do something that'll totally justify the creation of them.

And then Mystique publically saved the President of the United States and the White House staff by shooting Magneto. A Mutant shot another Mutant to save the President, the WH staff, and the guy who created the Sentinels in the first place. And the entire world saw it. So the point was that while they're were dangerous Mutants, they're were also good ones and now the world knows it (the newspaper headline at the end). Plus, Trask was arrested, so his credibility is in the toilet on two fronts.
 
Nope it all got retconned

Everything is X3 never happened in this new timeline now. They're going to have to tie up loose ends

Yes, but that flashback occurs when 1) Before X1 when Xavier is still walking, and 2) Mags and Xavier were still 'together' so to speak.

Since FC takes place in the 60's, Jeans age doesn't match up, so they couldn't have went to visit her during FC; the second theory would be that the scene at the beginning of X3 takes place sometime when Xavier is on Hanks serum, thus able to walk..only in that scene with Jean, he has his telepathy, so that can't be the case….

..o.k, now i'm confused.:huh:
 
They've essentially completely removed X3 from continuity. Really the simplest explanation is that Jean was recruited some other way. Wolverine made a point to ask Young Xavier to bring the X-Men together, and mentioned Scott, Jean, and Storm by name. Then old Xavier tells him in that final scene that "I had a promise to keep." So they probably just ended up at the school some other way.
 
Yes, but that flashback occurs when 1) Before X1 when Xavier is still walking, and 2) Mags and Xavier were still 'together' so to speak.

Since FC takes place in the 60's, Jeans age doesn't match up, so they couldn't have went to visit her during FC; the second theory would be that the scene at the beginning of X3 takes place sometime when Xavier is on Hanks serum, thus able to walk..only in that scene with Jean, he has his telepathy, so that can't be the case….

..o.k, now i'm confused.:huh:

Xavier's powers only got switched off in the past section of DoFP because he took TOO MUCH of the serum. He was addicted to it, and he WANTED to remove all the voices in his head.
 
They've essentially completely removed X3 from continuity. Really the simplest explanation is that Jean was recruited some other way. Wolverine made a point to ask Young Xavier to bring the X-Men together, and mentioned Scott, Jean, and Storm by name. Then old Xavier tells him in that final scene that "I had a promise to keep." So they probably just ended up at the school some other way.

hopefully we will see the recruitment of young Scott, Jean, and Storm in Apocalypse.
 
Singer essentially confirmed that they'll be in it.
 
They will be In APocalypse but weither we willsee their recruitment or they will already be at school when APocalypse makes his move Is unknown.
 
This is such a great movie. Saw it again for the 2nd time, and boy does this have rewatchability :up:

James McAvoy I think was my favorite thing about this movie. He really owns the screen.
 
My thoughts after finally seeing this on Monday .....

There are a lot of convenient things that happen in this movie, with very little explanation ..... they either just are or just happen, with little to no prior development (some of it because of Singer's intent to retcon):

  • Kitty Pryde suddenly being able to manipulate time.
  • Eric and Mystique conveniently showing up in important locations midway thru the 2nd act and into the 3rd, one of which was one Eric was aboard the train merging metal into the Sentinels. Actually for most of the movie they're easily getting whisked around to where the plot needed them.
  • I still don't understand how Eric was able to command the Sentinels' artificial intelligence, technically he should've only had control over their bodies.
  • Beast conveniently having set up a newsroom taping all three networks and then his gizmo for messing with the security systems at the Pentagon. The most well-guarded building on the planet sure seemed easy-breezy for the group to waltz into.
  • Beasts formula sure did a damn good job restricting Charle's powers, but such a poor job of his own, which was why it was made in the first place
  • Trasks grudge with the Mutants just happens. There was no real reason to fear them and become "the new war" ...... until that scene in Paris, but even then was that situation so becoming of declaring war on this new sub-species?
  • The future sentinels being able to replicate mutant powers even though Mystique is not able to do that and it's her DNA that gave them that ability.

Surprisingly this movie didn't have quite the amount of "throwaway" characters I initially thought it might. The nostalgia of the 70's was fun. The movie has a slightly rocky shift from jokes to dead-on serious once Wolverine locates Charles and they break Eric out, but the exchanges between Eric and Charles are what drive the emotions of this film .... especially that scene on the plane. The Quicksilver scene was fun, but makes literally no sense why a mutant with that kind of power wouldn't have been taken a long for the rest of the ride. I thought the end scene when Wolverine wakes up was perfectly sentimental in all the right ways. It's the kind of thing most people have day dreamt about at one time or another when it comes to changing their pasts.

I'm quite bored of the war on mutants story though. I thought the future Sentinels designs were poor compared to their 70's counterparts (would've preferred to see much more of them). Speaking of the future, can they please stop suiting these guys up in that ugly black pleather? While this movie takes off emotionally, the action scenes were lackluster, most of which consisted of Mystique beating up on defenseless extras. For being the only guy who could travel back in time, Wolverine essentially became an onlooker for most of the movie.

I give it a 7.0 - 7.5 ..... The first trailer that came out wasn't lying, this movie was attempting to show a more emotional side of the franchise. The issue for me is it became a little too brooding, which caused some of the movie to drag for me. I'm actually more interested to see what happens with Apocalypse, because it's a fresher story to tell.
 
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Yeah I've seen it three times now, and I loved it to bits each time. The whole movie is just brilliant. Amazing cast, fantastic story, some beautiful imagery and action.

It's the ultimate X-Men movie.
 
Yeah I've seen it three times now, and I loved it to bits each time. The whole movie is just brilliant. Amazing cast, fantastic story, some beautiful imagery and action.

It's the ultimate X-Men movie.

This truly is. I think not only does this incorporate what was good about the X-Men films (both OT and FC), but the ending of the film is just poetic and screams X-Men. This movie I felt showcased that idea of hope for a better tomorrow so much better than any other film we have gotten so far :up:
 
This truly is. I think not only does this incorporate what was good about the X-Men films (both OT and FC), but the ending of the film is just poetic and screams X-Men. This movie I felt showcased that idea of hope for a better tomorrow so much better than any other film we have gotten so far :up:

Oh man, the ending. How rare is it to have a really rewarding ending nowadays with these sequels? And on top of that satisfaction they tease you as well.
 
Oh man, the ending. How rare is it to have a really rewarding ending nowadays with these sequels? And on top of that satisfaction they tease you as well.

This movie just had such a great blend of everything, and the nostalgia factor that Singer injects into the film just adds even more to the experience. So many movies/shows drop the ball when you come into a climax like this, but this one just flat out nails it! Feels good to be rewarded with good films as a fan :up:
 
Singer essentially confirmed that they'll be in it.

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I'm curious to see what he's got planned for Apocalypse. From the sound of it, that movie will be even more destructive than this one was.
 
I wasn't as enamored by this movie as a lot of people seemed to be. Its a 7 for me. Not bad but still my lowest rated CBM for a while. WS and TASM2 are both rated higher for me, 9 and 8.5 respectively. Wasn't really sure what the whole point was of lifting the stadium up besides looking cool. No really cool looking fights in the past. The final battle in the future wasn't really suspenseful because we knew it was irrelevant. I liked Blink but there wasn't much of her. Warpath was a cool add but younger than I'm accustomed to seeing. Hopefully there will be more of them in the future. Needed Colossus was a dissapointment. James McAvoy and Fassbender were great.
 
Yeah this is MUCH better than TASM 2 imo. It's better paced, better plotted, it doesn't have jarring tonal shifts, the villains are better, etc. The whole point of lifting the stadium was two fold.

1. Prevent the targets from escaping.
2. As a display of power/warning.
 
Yeah this is MUCH better than TASM 2 imo. It's better paced, better plotted, it doesn't have jarring tonal shifts, the villains are better, etc. The whole point of lifting the stadium was two fold.

1. Prevent the targets from escaping.
2. As a display of power/warning.

3. Make it harder for police/other outside forces to get in.
 
In reference to Verick, The point of the stadium was so that Magneto could close off the surrounding area from police, military, etc.
 
To each his own, I find the film over rated. It was even a little boring at times. I don't get where people are getting best CBM film ever from. It was okay. I'd place X2 and the first Wolverine movie above it.
 
[*]Eric and Mystique conveniently showing up in important locations midway thru the 2nd act and into the 3rd, one of which was one Eric was aboard the train merging metal into the Sentinels. Actually for most of the movie they're easily getting whisked around to where the plot needed them.
[*]I still don't understand how Eric was able to command the Sentinels' artificial intelligence, technically he should've only had control over their bodies.

He'd stolen the blueprints to the Sentinels (the one Trask was showing during his meeting in Paris). He was reading through them while stitching up his head wound from the fight with Beast, learned how they worked, tracked them down and use he power to reprogram them.

They weren't "showing up in convenient locations". Erik was tracking the Sentinels, and Mystique was following Trask. They were going exactly where the story needed them to go.

[*]Beast conveniently having set up a newsroom taping all three networks and then his gizmo for messing with the security systems at the Pentagon. The most well-guarded building on the planet sure seemed easy-breezy for the group to waltz into.

Especially when they had Quicksilver, who you've left out completely. :cwink:

[*]Beasts formula sure did a damn good job restricting Charle's powers, but such a poor job of his own, which was why it was made in the first place

No, he invented it to mask his appearance, not take away his powers. Remember in First Class, Mystique even asked him to be sure it wouldn't affect her powers? Charles was taking too much of it, which is why it affected his powers.

[*]Trasks grudge with the Mutants just happens. There was no real reason to fear them and become "the new war" ...... until that scene in Paris, but even then was that situation so becoming of declaring war on this new sub-species?

He states repeatedly throughout the film that he thinks mutants are dangerous threat. His grudge didn't "just happen", it was clear he'd been experimenting on them for a long time. He used the events in Paris to scare Washington into fast-tracking the Sentinel program.

[*]The future sentinels being able to replicate mutant powers even though Mystique is not able to do that and it's her DNA that gave them that ability.
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They're ability to replicate powers came from all of the mutants they killed, Mystique's DNA just created it's ability to change from one to another.
 
Trask mentions in the scene where he is talking to the senators that much like Homo sapien killed off the Neanderthals...mutant kind would eventually kill off humans
 
He'd stolen the blueprints to the Sentinels (the one Trask was showing during his meeting in Paris). He was reading through them while stitching up his head wound from the fight with Beast, learned how they worked, tracked them down and use he power to reprogram them.

Use what power to re-program them? All he did was merge metal from railroad tracks into their bodies. How does that change their A.I.?

They weren't "showing up in convenient locations". Erik was tracking the Sentinels, and Mystique was following Trask. They were going exactly where the story needed them to go.

That's my point though. One minute Eric's on a railroad. Then he's incongito in a subway and Mystique somehow tracks him down. Look, I understand that's how the story is written, but it lacks development from getting people around from point A to B in many instances of the movie. Just like my example of how they broke into the world's most heavily guarded building.

Especially when they had Quicksilver, who you've left out completely. :cwink:

I didn't leave him out. He serves his purposes in the guarded area where Eric was, I'm talking about elsewhere in the Pentagon .... also see my previous thoughts on Beasts being able to sabotage their security system and the rest of the crew just miraculously making way to the kitchen before they finally meet some guards.

No, he invented it to mask his appearance, not take away his powers. Remember in First Class, Mystique even asked him to be sure it wouldn't affect her powers? Charles was taking too much of it, which is why it affected his powers.

Hmmmm, I seem to recall him commenting in the movie trying to restrict him "beasting out".

He states repeatedly throughout the film that he thinks mutants are dangerous threat. His grudge didn't "just happen", it was clear he'd been experimenting on them for a long time. He used the events in Paris to scare Washington into fast-tracking the Sentinel program.

Again, this is where your acceptance of a story's plot points differ from mine. I understand he "told" us that. As the old expression goes, show me don't tell me.

But to my point again, I don't personally see how that incident in Paris would fast track an all-out war declaration on mutants, which is what Trask was pushing for.

They're ability to replicate powers came from all of the mutants they killed, Mystique's DNA just created it's ability to change from one to another.

That's not how the story told it. From what I watched they needed Mystique's DNA as the missing sequence to obtain powers. Regardless, even by your explanation it doesn't make any sense. How can they just create powers by killing mutants?
 
Trask mentions in the scene where he is talking to the senators that much like Homo sapien killed off the Neanderthals...mutant kind would eventually kill off humans

I understand he used that as an example. What I'm saying is how does using that analogy suddenly coerce the world's most powerful country to declare war? It's unjustified in my opinion at that point in the movie.

After Eric moves half of RFK stadium? OK I could see it then .... but the cart came before the horse in this movie.
 
I understand he used that as an example. What I'm saying is how does using that analogy suddenly coerce the world's most powerful country to declare war? It's unjustified in my opinion at that point in the movie.

After Eric moves half of RFK stadium? OK I could see it then .... but the carriage came before the horse in this movie.

It didn't.
 
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