Official 'The Hobbit' Thread - Part 5

[Kane52630]

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[Drizzle]

Good to see they will be continuing the Visual Companion and Official Movie Guide books for this trilogy as well.

 

[Boom]

I have to believe that Beorn will pop up in at least one of those books. Do we have release dates for them?

 

[kedrell]

Can we all admit that with this becoming 3 films that there's no excuse for them to leave stuff out ala' Sam & the Watchers from the LOTR series?

 

[superkong 500]

Possible great goblin pic: thanks to the one ring .net


A French Tolkien site has laid its hands on a couple of very intriguing images that may reveal Barry Humphries’ Great Goblin and one of his minions. As you can imagine, they look appropriately gruesome!

For those who are keen to avoid spoilers, best to not look below the cut!

Here’s the English translation of the description from the German action figure leak which we understand from Herr-der-Ringe to be true:

The Goblin King is a huge, grotesquely bloated monster that in the years of his tyrannical rule over the miserable inhabitants of the Goblin town grew fat and flabby. The Goblin town is a collection of skew-whiff ramshackle huts deep in the caves of the Misty Mountains. He commands a bunch of foul, polluted, with scars and ulcers studded goblins.

Basically, they are bandits, they live by what they can pick up from passengers on the passes through the mountains. The Goblin King and his followers manage to capture Bilbo and the dwarves. The Goblin King is more wily and smarter than it seems. He takes pleasure in torturing his prisoners — he almost succeeds to finish off Thorin Oakenshield and his companions.

Behold the Great Goblin?

and his minion

 

[CGHulk]

Well he looks disgusting.

 

[Boom]

Nightmare fuel.

 

[Drizzle]

Damn, that's grotesque. That even makes this guy look downright pleasant:

 

[Project862006]

can see del toro's finger prints on that

 

[JP]

That is 100% Del Torro. I like.

And if its makeup/puppets even better.

 

[Kane52630]

I hope it's puppetry/make up, my god.

 

[CGHulk]

It will be CG, Barry Humphries did the performance in a motion capture suit. You can see in one of the video blogs him wearing the suit.

Here's what he sounds like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYmsVWmHI78#t=19s

 

[Marvolo]

Can we all admit that with this becoming 3 films that there's no excuse for them to leave stuff out ala' Sam & the Watchers from the LOTR series?

To be fair they filmed the watchers scene, but it was cut, and is among the many deleted scenes still not released. Jackson jokingly/kinda seriously said on the commentary for ROTK that if he ever does an anniversary edition he would like to include these scenes. The Elrond Library scene he mentions has me really intrigued. There was a lot they filmed we still haven't seen.

 

[corby]

Here's what he sounds like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYmsVWmHI78#t=19s

Man, that laugh he does as Bruce is perfect for coming out of a goblin king.

 

[Iceman]

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Nice one. I own all the LOTR equivalents (about 15 massive books) so I guess I better clear some shelf space.

 

[redhawk23]

Damn, that's grotesque. That even makes this guy look downright pleasant:

Am I the only one who always thought this guy looked like Sloth from the Goonies, which also featured Sean Astin?

 

[kedrell]

To be fair they filmed the watchers scene, but it was cut, and is among the many deleted scenes still not released. Jackson jokingly/kinda seriously said on the commentary for ROTK that if he ever does an anniversary edition he would like to include these scenes. The Elrond Library scene he mentions has me really intrigued. There was a lot they filmed we still haven't seen.

Yeah, I heard that on the Extended Edition commentary as well. I still don't know why they didn't at least include it in the EE. Pacing isn't an issue there. I totally understand and agreed with how the theatrical releases were cut though.

 

[regwec]

Behold the Great Goblin?

and his minion

Hmm. it seems these Orcs will be more rather than less animalistic. That isn't the direction I would have chosen, not least because the "Goblins" we meet in The Hobbit are a bit less aggressive and rather more jolly than their brethren in LOTR. After all, they give the Dwarves a hearing before any violence occurs!

Am I the only one who always thought this guy looked like Sloth from the Goonies, which also featured Sean Astin?

I remember reading that Gothmog was based on Joseph Merrick, which seems likely.

 

[Marvolo]

Hmm. it seems these Orcs will be more rather than less animalistic. That isn't the direction I would have chosen, not least because the "Goblins" we meet in The Hobbit are a bit less aggressive and rather more jolly than their brethren in LOTR. After all, they give the Dwarves a hearing before any violence occurs.

If your just basing that on looks alone might want to wait til you see the movie. Given the voice actor i can see them being less animalistic. Dont judge a book by its cover.

 

[regwec]

I'm not going to refrain from commenting on anything "til see the movie". That's a very silly protocol to adopt on a forum that exists on people's enthusiasm for speculating about movies.

Or should this thread be closed until it is on general release?

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I think he's just getting at nobody can have a fully formed opinion of the characters yet, and that perhaps the juxtaposition of their more lenient nature will work well with their more animalistic visage, and that, as of yet, you may worry, but you can still hope too.

 

[regwec]

I'm not worried. I said that I would not have taken the approach that "seems" (i.e. appears likely by the evidence available) to have been chosen.

Where did I express a "fully formed opinion of the characters"? I am sure that I didn't.

 

[Marvolo]

I'm not going to refrain from commenting on anything "til see the movie". That's a very silly protocol to adopt on a forum that exists on people's enthusiasm for speculating about movies.

Or should this thread be closed until it is on general release?

I wouldn't form a full opinion based on just the picture or get to concerned with the nature of the goblin king til we actually see something substantial. Not saying we shouldnt discuss it.

 

[Victarion]

That goblin makes me wish Del Toro had tackled all 6 Middle Earth films.

 

[Poeman]

That goblin makes me wish Del Toro had tackled all 6 Middle Earth films.

lol what? its just a art piece...Many artwork pieces look good