Official UFC Thread - Part 7

[DarthSkywalker]

Brock also failed in competition. That means he blew two test and according to Brett Okamoto one is the same estorgen blocker Jon Jones got caught with. You use that to avoid gaining female breast after using steroids that cause excess testosterone in the system.

https://***********/bokamotoESPN

By the way, the asthma stuff was debunked. Was a troll on Sherdog. Yeah, little chance he wrestles at Summerslam.

 

[I'm Batman.]

What was Hunt thinking doubting Lesnar's virtue? He beat the Streak.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

What was Hunt thinking doubting Lesnar's virtue? He beat the Streak.

 

[Slushy]

Lesnar is 39. I can see why he decided to go that route. Sucks for everybody.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Lesnar is 39. I can see why he decided to go that route. Sucks for everybody.

He has been doing it for like 20 years.

 

[B]

He has been doing it for like 20 years.

This is one of the very reasons why if you are a pro-athlete getting caught with something in your system that is considered as performance enhancing or something that is widly considered to conceal PED usage is so hurtful to your legacy.

Not so much in Lesnar's particular case but other fighters such as Anderson Silva or Jon Jones if his turns out to be not supplement related, people naturally will then come to the conclusion that they've been on them a large portion of their career undetected & then try to attribute that to their success.

Just saw today that Chad Mendes got a 2 year suspension for having some sort of growth-hormone in his system. UFC fighters dropping like crazy, they'll all soon learn the hard way.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This is one of the very reasons why if you are a pro-athlete getting caught with something in your system that is considered as performance enhancing or something that is widly considered to conceal PED usage is so hurtful to your legacy.

Not so much in Lesnar's particular case but other fighters such as Anderson Silva or Jon Jones if his turns out to be not supplement related, people naturally will then come to the conclusion that they've been on them a large portion of their career undetected & then try to attribute that to their success.

Just saw today that Chad Mendes got a 2 year suspension for having some sort of growth-hormone in his system. UFC fighters dropping like crazy, they'll all soon learn the hard way.

We know what Jones was on. It was not supplement related. Unless you have the oddest supplements of all time. They will continue that argument, because some people will be naive enough to believe it.

It is ridiculous to think that those whose bodies rarely change early in their careers, just suddenly got on the juice, when they look the same. It is those that suddenly lost their look and stamina once serious testing kicked in that are of course also making it obvious.

You need to defend this stuff is strange. Everyone knows it is happening, insiders and fighters say it all the time, there was just no "proof". It is no different then the situation with Russia or Spain. This is no different then cycling.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

Screw the USDA. I just want fights.

 

[CrypticOne]

You wouldn't say that if someone died inside the cage and the dude who killed them tested positive for PEDs.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

So it's better if someone dies against an unjuiced fighter?

 

[B]

I'm sick of reading about Mark Hunt blubbing about Brock Lesnar's failed test(s), this is a guy who in the run up to the fight said something along the lines of that he thought Lesnar was juiced to the gills... but was still gonna knock him out.

Now he's got his ass whooped & Brock failed a test he's up in arms like he's disgusted with the whole thing, how he wants cut from UFC if he doesn't get half Brock's paycheck. He should never have accepted the fight if he had suspicions or didn't like the USADA exemption Lesnar was given.

I like Mark Hunt but damn.. he's starting to turn me against him with his conflicting opinions/comments.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'm sick of reading about Mark Hunt blubbing about Brock Lesnar's failed test(s), this is a guy who in the run up to the fight said something along the lines of that he thought Lesnar was juiced to the gills... but was still gonna knock him out.

Now he's got his ass whooped & Brock failed a test he's up in arms like he's disgusted with the whole thing, how he wants cut from UFC if he doesn't get half Brock's paycheck. He should never have accepted the fight if he had suspicions or didn't like the USADA exemption Lesnar was given.

I like Mark Hunt but damn.. he's starting to turn me against him with his conflicting opinions/comments.

Mark Hunt is sick of fighting cheats. He has been paired up with them multiple times. That Brock got paid crazy money to be a freak attraction and then got caught juicing. Yeah, Brock should lose his money. Whether Hunt gets some, and he probably will, is another matter.

Also, I wouldn't call that an "ass whooping". Brock is the only one that came out with his face smashed up.

 

[LoganGambit87]

Mark Hunt is sick of fighting cheats. He has been paired up with them multiple times. That Brock got paid crazy money to be a freak attraction and then got caught juicing. Yeah, Brock should lose his money. Whether Hunt gets some, and he probably will, is another matter.

Also, I wouldn't call that an "ass whooping". Brock is the only one that came out with his face smashed up.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Now, pictures of Brock? t:

 

[Warhammer]

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[VelcroWallet]

Mark Hunt is sick of fighting cheats. He has been paired up with them multiple times. That Brock got paid crazy money to be a freak attraction and then got caught juicing. Yeah, Brock should lose his money. Whether Hunt gets some, and he probably will, is another matter.

Not sick enough to fight someone he thinks is cheating. Why in the name of Kazushi Sakuraba would he do such a thing?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Not sick enough to fight someone he thinks is cheating. Why in the name of Kazushi Sakuraba would he do such a thing?

Well, one to get paid. Secondly, because he did get caught. They just didn't get him before the fight.

 

[VelcroWallet]

So greed trumped principle then. lol

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So greed trumped principle then. lol

Hunt doesn't make crazy money. I think paying bills trumps all.

 

[VelcroWallet]

It seems he also doesn't make smart financial decisions either.

Also what happened to getting a second job to pay those bills.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It seems he also doesn't make smart financial decisions either.

Also what happened to getting a second job to pay those bills.

This is your argument? You are a pro fighter, you should get another job to pay the bills. Anything to not blame Brock for actually pissing hot I guess.

 

[Slushy]

Wow, Jones and Lesnar will NOT be fined by UFC for their wellness violations!

He has been doing it for like 20 years.

Nah, people forget Lesnar's been jacked since he was 14. #FarmWork

 

[LoganGambit87]

Hunt doesn't make crazy money. I think paying bills trumps all.

getting the opportunity to fight brock got him 700k when his fight prior he made 160k

 

[B]

Mark Hunt is sick of fighting cheats. He has been paired up with them multiple times. That Brock got paid crazy money to be a freak attraction and then got caught juicing. Yeah, Brock should lose his money. Whether Hunt gets some, and he probably will, is another matter.

That's fair enough, but then he shouldn't go around in pre-fight interviews that he thinks Lesnar is juiced to the gills, but it didn't matter because he was still gonna knock him out. Nobody forced him to take the fight, he knew Lesnar was more than likely going to be 1 and done, it did nothing for him in relation to his ranking. If he'd reservations about him being on steroids or being unhappy with the USADA exception Lesnar was going to receive all he'd to say was no thanks. He agreed to it, acted like it didn't matter that he thought Lesnar was juicing, loses the fight, Lesnar gets caught & now taking a completely different stance on the matter.

Lesnar won't lose his purse, if anything he'll get fined the standard fee for failed tests/missing weight which I believe is 30%. It would depend what sort of contract Brock entered into the UFC with.

Also, I wouldn't call that an "ass whooping". Brock is the only one that came out with his face smashed up.

It was an ass whooping, Lesnar had Hunt down for about 75% of the fight, controlling Hunt & landing hard shots on face & body. Even in the 25% of the fight that was standing Hunt offered essentially no striking threat to Lesnar because he was that worried about getting taken down he stood out of his own range so Lesnar couldn't get hold of him.

The side of Hunt's face was purple he'd taken that many shots.

 

[I'm Batman.]

Shane Carwin is looking at possibly returning to the Octagon after retiring 3 years ago. At 41 years old what if any positives do you see coming from him returning? He's lost twice, Brock and Dos Santos. I think that if he can still knock fools into next week, he could be fun for a few fights, but his age, his injuries over the years, is he in shape? He looks like he walks around at about 225 nowadays, compared to his peak, but there was always doubts about whether he was natural or not, especially with the steroid situation he was in awhile back. Wouldn't mind seeing him trade bombs with someone to see what he's still got. We know exactly what he is, he'll clobber heavyweights, but certainly lose to anyone in the top 10. But I suppose I don't see the harm in him coming back for a few fights.