Old MCU Fantastic Four Discussion Thread

[Spider-Fan]

It will be interesting to see how they deal with Sue's power. If they really let her go and give her complete control of her power, she could be one of the most powerful characters in the MCU.

I imagine it will be gradual. She may have 1 extreme show of power, but probably won't be OP Sue until like FF3.

 

[David H.]

Ff4: 16.

 

[Frankeh]

She "could" but it's like trying to fit an octagon into a circle hole. There are better choices for Sue

It's kinda not though . I already brought up the movies where she proves she is not just the type of actress you paint her as. And while I love me some Lively, a better choice than Blunt she isn't imho. Blunt is in another level from Lively.

But Marvel will probably not cast fancast actors anyway...

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think Blunt would be perfectly fine as Susan. Remember, she was cast as Mary Poppins. MARY POPPINS!!! Can you name another character as sweet and wholesome? I think she'd be great. She has a lot of range.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Lily James - Sue Storm

 

[Marvel united]

It's kinda not though . I already brought up the movies where she proves she is not just the type of actress you paint her as. And while I love me some Lively, a better choice than Blunt she isn't imho. Blunt is in another level from Lively.

But Marvel will probably not cast fancast actors anyway...

Blunt may be a better actor but that doesn't make her a better fit for Sue, which Lively is. Benicio Del Toro is a better actor than Krasinski? But does that make him a better fit for Reed than Krasinski? No, it doesn't. Reason why I said Octagon instead of square is because yes, Blunt "can" be warm and sweet but that's not her strenghth as an actor. An actress who naturally comes across that way would be ideal for Sue (I.e Blake) Blunt just doesn't convey the traditional image of 616 Sue, that's not what people think whej you say "Emily Blunt"

 

[Dark Raven]

Lily James - Sue Storm

I guess she could work.

 

[Eddie Dean]

You guess?

 

[Spider-Fan]

Blunt may be a better actor but that doesn't make her a better fit for Sue, which Lively is. Benicio Del Toro is a better actor than Krasinski? But does that make him a better fit for Reed than Krasinski? No, it doesn't. Reason why I said Octagon instead of square is because yes, Blunt "can" be warm and sweet but that's not her strenghth as an actor. An actress who naturally comes across that way would be ideal for Sue (I.e Blake) Blunt just doesn't convey the traditional image of 616 Sue, that's not what people think whej you say "Emily Blunt"

I just don't think Lively has any talent. She was "decent" in The Shallows, but every other movie I have seen her in he acting has been something I found PAINFUL.

 

[Marvel united]

Lily James - Sue Storm

Another good choice

 

[Marvel united]

I just don't think Lively has any talent. She was "decent" in The Shallows, but every other movie I have seen her in he acting has been something I found PAINFUL.

I disagree, I think Lively carried the Shallows. Without her, it would have been a pretty boring movie. She was likable and charismatic but showed that she could rise to the occasion when needed. Also have you seen Age of Adaline? Blake was amazing in that movie and praised immensely for her perfomance. She's comea very long way since Gossip Girl

The 80s-90s equelivant of Blunt would be wanting to cast someone like Sigourney Weaver or Linda Hamilton as Sue.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I disagree, I think Lively carried the Shallows. Without her, it would have been a pretty boring movie. She was likable and charismatic but showed that she could rise to the occasion when needed.

The 80s-90s equelivant of Blunt would be wanting to cast someone like Sigourney Weaver or Linda Hamilton as Sue.

Again, if she can play Mary Poppins, she can do Sue.

I would say The Shallows was her best performance, but basically anything else I have seen her in, she was the weak link each time, with her turn as Carol Ferris being the absolute worst. She lacks range, or talent IMO

 

[Frankeh]

Blunt may be a better actor but that doesn't make her a better fit for Sue, which Lively is.

It can when you take into account versatility

But does that make him a better fit for Reed than Krasinski? No, it doesn't. Reason why I said Octagon instead of square is because yes, Blunt "can" be warm and sweet but that's not her strenghth as an actor.

Her strength as an actor can be that she can portray different roles very well. I wasn't even introduced to Blunt as this tough, badass, cold actress.

 

[Marvel united]

Again, if she can play Mary Poppins, she can do Sue.

I would say The Shallows was her best performance, but basically anything else I have seen her in, she was the weak link each time, with her turn as Carol Ferris being the absolute worst. She lacks range, or talent IMO

Again, see Age of Adaline. She was amazing in that movie - completely changed my view of Blake as an actor.

And Mary Poppins is a completely different kind of character from Sue. Ehhh.. That's like saying someone could envy those qualities because they played a Magical Nanny or Fairy Godmother. When I think of Sue, Mary Poppins type personality (tough love, distant personality) doesn't come to mind.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Blake Lively has the voice of a dead coffee grind.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Again, see Age of Adaline. She was amazing in that movie - completely changed my view of Blake as an actor.

And Mary Poppins is a completely different kind of character from Sue. Ehhh.. That's like saying someone could envy those qualities because they played a Magical Nanny or Fairy Godmother. When I think of Sue, Mary Poppins type personality (tough love) doesn't come to mind.

Saw it. Was not impressed. She bored me.

 

[Marvel united]

It can when you take into account versatility

Her strength as an actor can be that she can portray different roles very well. I wasn't even introduced to Blunt as this tough, badass, cold actress.

I was introduced to her through Devil Wears Prada in which she played a cold character. Yeah, she's a versatile actress but that doesnt the negate the fact that casting her as Sue would be casting against type.

Again, I bring up Sigourney Weaver, sure she can "play" that type of role - but it would not fit her craft. That's not traditional image of Sue

 

[Crimz]

I think the mistake with a lot of Sue fancasts is that most people look for blonde actresses. Because Sue is blonde I think that fans find it easier to visualize an already blonde actress in the role. But the problem is that we miss out on potentially great actresses for the role as hair can easily be dyed.

I would never have had though of Melissa Benoist as Supergirl solely because she wasn't blonde, but she is really solid as the girl of steel. I like Blunt in the role, but I admit that I can't see her doing Sue's personality well beyond the badass parts. I think Blake is too weak of an actress unfortunately and comes across a bit too "valley girl" in her roles for me. If they weren't both blonde I think their names would hardly come up.

 

[Frankeh]

Again, I bring up Sigourney Weaver, sure she can "play" that type of role - but it would not fit her craft. That's not traditional image of Sue

Not true. Again, watch Five-Year Engagement, Your Sister's Sister, Into the Woods, Salmon Fishing in the Yemen, Adjustment Bureau. Most of those roles were before Sicario, Edge of Tomorrow, Looper which you seem to think are the roles she fits. You're saying no one cared for Blunt before she played this tough cold badass character?

 

[Spider-Fan]

I was introduced to her through Devil Wears Prada in which she played a cold character. Yeah, she's a versatile actress but that doesnt the negate the fact that casting her as Sue would be casting against type.

Again, I bring up Sigourney Weaver, sure she can "play" that type of role - but it would not fit her craft. That's not traditional image of Sue

I get what you're saying, but going by this logic, Ledger would never have been the Joker. He was cast against "type" in that case. I also think you're type casting her based on certain films, not her overall body of work.

I think Blunt is a realistic possible choice for the role. Krasinski has shown interest, and he's married to her. Plus, she has been in the Marvel rumor mill many times prior. I actually can see her ending up with the role.

 

[Marvel united]

I think the mistake with a lot of Sue fancasts is that most people look for blonde actresses. Because Sue is blonde I think that fans find it easier to visualize an already blonde actress in the role. But the problem is that we miss out on potentially great actresses for the role as hair can easily be dyed.

I would never have had though of Melissa Benoist as Supergirl solely because she wasn't blonde, but she is really solid as the girl of steel. I like Blunt in the role, but I admit that I can't see her doing Sue's personality well beyond the badass parts. I think Blake is too weak of an actress unfortunately and comes across a bit too "valley girl" in her roles for me. If they weren't both blonde I think their names would hardly come up.

Well, the main reason why Blunt comes up is because Krasinski is married to her and a lot if people like the idea of an actual married couple playing a married couple in the MCU

 

[Dark Raven]

I think the mistake with a lot of Sue fancasts is that most people look for blonde actresses. Because Sue is blonde I think that fans find it easier to visualize an already blonde actress in the role. But the problem is that we miss out on potentially great actresses for the role as hair can easily be dyed.

I would never have had though of Melissa Benoist as Supergirl solely because she wasn't blonde, but she is really solid as the girl of steel. I like Blunt in the role, but I admit that I can't see her doing Sue's personality well beyond the badass parts. I think Blake is too weak of an actress unfortunately and comes across a bit too "valley girl" in her roles for me. If they weren't both blonde I think their names would hardly come up.

Melissa Benoist would be a good choice for Sue. She has a naturally warm personality. Supergirl can be a badass while not having to seem like one at all. She doesn't give off that hard-edged, tough vibe but still is strong as the girl of steel.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Well, the main reason why Blunt comes up is because Krasinski is married to her and a lot if people like the idea of an actual married couple playing a married couple in the MCU

Not the only reason. I also would consider her because she is very talented and has been in the running for several other characters for Marvel prior. I think she would be excellent as Sue.

 

[Marvel united]

I get what you're saying, but going by this logic, Ledger would never have been the Joker. He was cast against "type" in that case. I also think you're type casting her based on certain films, not her overall body of work.

I think Blunt is a realistic possible choice for the role. Krasinski has shown interest, and he's married to her. Plus, she has been in the Marvel rumor mill many times prior. I actually can see her ending up with the role.

I don't think that will be the case. Just because Blunt was cast as Black Widow and considered for Peggy Carter doesn't mean Marvel will think she's right for the part of Sue. These characters are completely different from Sue and call for a different kind of actress. She was never considered for Carol Danvers by Marvel (even though, she was the fan-favorite for the role at the time)

Krasinski has a better chance of ending up as Reed because 1. Depending on which version of Reed they go with, he fits both. 2. He has expressed interest (like you said) and would love to play Mr. Fantastic. Emily - on the other hand, seems wayyy less enthusiastic to be in the MCU. Add in the fact that Marvel was going to have him be Cap before Evans changed his mind, this could be another chance for John.


I understand your point about casting against type and how it worked for Ledger among others but to me, that opens the door to a whole new can of worms about who should and shouldn't be considered for the part. For now, I think it's best to trust your instincts as a fan.

 

[Crimz]

Well, the main reason why Blunt comes up is because Krasinski is married to her and a lot if people like the idea of an actual married couple playing a married couple in the MCU

Her name came up occasionally before Krasinski's did. It's just more often now.