Opinion on the Hulk's use in the MCU

You're of course welcome to your opinion, but this is unquestionably more impressive than anything '08 Hulk ever did:

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Norton Hulk struggled to lift a Humvee and was losing to Abom, who is basically an inferior version of himself. I fail to see how he would defeat Thanos.

yea cool. Again that hulk just doesn’t seem as savage. Even tho he was losing his anger pulled through and he beat the crap out of abom. In a very brutal fashion. That’s kinda his thing. The more he gets hit the angrier he gets the stronger he gets. Punching a slow moving dragon slug doesn’t impress me.
 
Not sure what the She-hulk TV series has in store for the Hulk.
I suppose its just a cameo, here & there, totalling only a few minutes because they don't want to take away from her (She-hulk) being the main star.
 
Fine until IE and EG.
 
I think the lack of major success with the more serious hulk in the solo films made them fearful of going down that route again. MCU hulk is more comic relief, avengers muscle and exposition tool (when his banner or professor hulk).

I do miss the d.i.d (multiple personality disorder) aspect being a bit less front and center to the MCU hulk since.

It would be cool to see Joe fixit personality appear in she-hulk since I think that personality would be funny in a half hour legal comedy format. Ruffalo would probably be up for playing a old fashioned gangster influenced hulk.
 
Thor had the edge with his lightning, sure, but I still don't think the fight or the movie disrespected Hulk, since he was clearly winning up until Thor activated his Raiden powers and it definitively showed that Hulk is physically stronger than Thor.

Oh I don’t know, Thor got some damn good feats of strength in that fight and was beating Hulk down a couple of times. I wouldn’t say the fight disrespected Hulk but he as definitely a showcase for Thor’s new upgrade.


Well, the Ancient One's hax abilities are kind of a hard counter to someone like Hulk. Not to mention that Banner clearly underestimated her as he had no idea who he was dealing with.

I really don't think any other Avengers besides Strange and - possibly - Wanda would have done any better in his position since none of them can defend against magical attacks. We saw how easily Strange was able to mess around with Thor and Loki in Ragnarok.

Basically, the sorcerers are ridiculously OP.

Even so, that’s 3 movies on the run Hulk has been used to showcase someone else’s power.




Except everyone who got another crack at him lost, (except Wanda) and Hulk would have too. EG Thanos was more ruthless and blood-lusted than his IW counterpart and on top of that he was wielding a Vibranium-busting sword. He demolished the Trinity with ease, including Thor with Stormbreaker and Worthy Cap. It would have been ridiculous for Hulk to lose so badly to an unarmed Thanos in IW and then suddenly be able to compete with him when he's armed with a deadly sword.

They all may have lost, but they all had a far better showing against a Thanos than Hulk did. Hell Iron Man did in Infinity War, let alone EG. And Thanos didn’t have the sword for the whole fight. I am not saying Hulk should have beat single handed, no single Avenger should IMO, but give him a better showing at least.

It showed that she is way above everyone, which is exactly what Feige had been telling us for years. He had been saying from the beginning that Carol was gonna be the Superman of the MCU, so none of this should really come as a surprise.

Either way I thought it was stupid and made a bit of a mockery of the likes of Hulk getting his ass handed to him by Thanos in IW. Everyone else got a much better showing against him. And I am someone who really liked the CM movie.
 
Even so, that’s 3 movies on the run Hulk has been used to showcase someone else’s power

It's a shame no?
I mean, yes, any character on any day, can lose.
But seems ol' Hulk gets the worst of it for some reason.
I'd like to see him go ape $hi! crazy for some reason, making a decision from Nick Fury to re-assemble a new team of Avengers just to stop him.
 
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It's a shame no?
I mean, yes, any character on any day, can lose.
But seems ol' Hulk gets the worst of it for some reason.
I'd like to see him go ape $hi! crazy for some reason, making calling fro Nick Fury to re-assemble a new team of Avengers just to stop him.

It's a damn shame. I love many Marvel characters but Hulk is certainly up there and has so much potential. I can't help but think the situation with Universal has been a factor.
 
I can't help but think the situation with Universal has been a factor.

I just don't understand their (Universal) stubborness.
If Sony & Disney can work somethign out, so they both prosper why not them.
Unless Universal's stance is you use him (Hulk) in Avengers movies, be happy.
 
I just don't understand their (Universal) stubborness.
If Sony & Disney can work somethign out, so they both prosper why not them.
Unless Universal's stance is you use him (Hulk) in Avengers movies, be happy.

Without knowing contract specifics and given that there hasn't been a solo Hulk movie in almost 13 years, Universal either has the rights for a long period of time or indefinitely. I don't know how likely that is but its possible Universal is just holding out for Disney to make them a big offer or something. Problem is Disney has shown they can still use Hulk without ever making a Hulk movie. Universal could just be hopelessly waiting for Disney to make them an offer that may never come. They might as well cash out at this point.
 
We have no reason to think there's any stubbornness at all. Universal might well simply be indifferent to the matter. They aren't making a deal because they don't care, they have plenty of other business to handle and don't need to care about one old distribution contract. Disney meanwhile doesn't necessarily need to care, because the only thing that old contract prevents is something they may well not especially want to make anyway: a solo Hulk movie. Sure, it might be nice, but two solo Hulk movies in a row have fizzled, he's one of their more expensive characters to realize, and his traditional "iconic" form is one of the trickiest to actually put into a heroic character-based narrative ( doubly so with the problematic expectations of the loudest fans* ). With such a giant roster of heroes to use, and a proven ability to turn virtually anything into gold regardless of prior fame, it just doesn't matter that much.

* The classic, iconic Savage Hulk, in his widely recognized form? To put it bluntly, is the villain of the piece. He is a tragic monster, but a tragic monster is still a monster, and the tragedy is that Banner would be entirely good to be rid of the Hulk. The tragic hero of the tale is Banner, and the Hulk is the bad thing that happened that makes it a tragedy. Acknowledging this through the narrative. . . is a problem, when a good chunk of the fans do not accept that a rampaging destructive monster with the intelligence and self control of a child at best, is a bad thing. Instead treating the idea of power uncontrolled by anything, even the self, as the best most awesome power fantasy ever. It is indeed a power fantasy, but a villainous power fantasy, not a super heroic one. Now, can this issue be avoided? Sure, but you avoid it by making the Savage Hulk less, well, savage: by giving him personality and self control and intellect sufficient that he is capable of being a moral actor. This might mean becoming a merged Professor Hulk who is basically Banner With Powers, or it might just mean being a monster with enough self control and awareness to recognize friends and foes, and know which one to smash. However, any version of this means giving up at least some of the "uncontrolled" premise of the Savage Hulk, accepting that the character actually is restrained by moral boundaries.
 
Disney meanwhile doesn't necessarily need to care, because the only thing that old contract prevents is something they may well not especially want to make anyway: a solo Hulk movie. Sure, it might be nice, but two solo Hulk movies in a row have fizzled, he's one of their more expensive characters to realize, and his traditional "iconic" form is one of the trickiest to actually put into a heroic character-based narrative ( doubly so with the problematic expectations of the loudest fans* ). With such a giant roster of heroes to use, and a proven ability to turn virtually anything into gold regardless of prior fame, it just doesn't matter that much..

Your argument is a valid one.
I still however think Disney does want sole ownership of all their charcaters though.
I mean they bought Fox just to get the X-men & FF4 basically.
So I know the Hulk , Spider-Man & a few others must be a sore point for them.
 
They bought Fox because Fox was selling and Disney wanted to get their entire catalogue of movies for their streaming services. To say they bought them solely for Marvel rights is a bit a much.

They did acquire Fox for all the properties they can add to their catalog.
Planet of the Apes would be interesting to see what Disney would do with, as would Aliens.
So it wasnt acquired 'solely' for Marvel properties, but I think a part of it was adding their own back into the mix.
 
I would say that the biggest reasons Disney wanted Fox were basically a tie between Marvel and Star Wars. Those were both things that are not just valuable, but valuable things that Disney otherwise owned and were thus entangled by Fox's involvement. Getting rid of that entanglement was a big thing.

That said, they certainly weren't going to turn down the rest of the catalog, though I bet that anything which *wasn't* IP was something they barely care about and probably will divest eventually.
 
I would say the course to go now is Joe Fix-It. Bruce's psych in Infinity War played a part with intellectual Hulk. Whose to say he doesn't become somewhat embarassed by people complimenting him on his intellect and being such a hero snapping everyone back? Afterall, he's used being on the run and worried about what would happen if he becomes angry with a savage green raging behomoth wreaking havoc on the world.

Now, he's in control but just wants to be down to earth and your ordinary guy. Enter Joe Jix-It. He gets the job done and is just another working guy ready to bust some localized crime rings once he's done with his 9 to 5. Aw schucks he says.
 
I would say the course to go now is Joe Fix-It. Bruce's psych in Infinity War played a part with intellectual Hulk. Whose to say he doesn't become somewhat embarassed by people complimenting him on his intellect and being such a hero snapping everyone back? Afterall, he's used being on the run and worried about what would happen if he becomes angry with a savage green raging behomoth wreaking havoc on the world.

Now, he's in control but just wants to be down to earth and your ordinary guy. Enter Joe Jix-It. He gets the job done and is just another working guy ready to bust some localized crime rings once he's done with his 9 to 5. Aw schucks he says.

Joe Fix-It I think is an interesting piece of Marvel/Hulk history.
If they choose to bring certain Netflix characters back, how cool would it be if Joe Fix-It was the way we get Kingpin back into the MCU?
 
I think the Kingpin getting doinked on the head by Joe Fixit would be more merciful than his run-in with the Punisher would've been.
 
Somehow , including the Joe Fixit & sneaking in Kingpin into the She-Hulk series would be a HUGE score for the MCU.
And freshen it up.
 
I'm not too versed in Hulk lore.

Is Gray Hulk/Joe Fixit just a different manifestation of Bruce's psyche? What triggers a transformation into Gray Hulk as opposed to Green Hulk?
 
I'm not too versed in Hulk lore.

Is Gray Hulk/Joe Fixit just a different manifestation of Bruce's psyche? What triggers a transformation into Gray Hulk as opposed to Green Hulk?

Joe Fixit
When the Hulk returned to Earth, he took a job as an enforcer at a casino. Calling himself Mr. Fixit, the Hulk spent several months without reverting to human form. It was during this time that he met and dated Marlo Chandler, who would one day marry Rick Jones. Banner eventually returned and the Hulk's life as Mr. Fixit soon came to an end through the machinations of the Maggia.
 
Hulk has become a joke in the MCU.

Avengers (2012) was the best Hulk we have seen in film.
 

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