Pacific Rim - Part 3

[TheVileOne]

Meanwhile, on Boxoffice.com's forums: "This feels like a repeat of Man of Steel critically. Gets good/great/glowing reviews from geek press and mixed-to-negative reviews from old school print press."

Courtesy of FilmNerd, there have been no press or critic reviews yet, just raves all around from Twitter, and this is his conclusion. Keep trying to defend yourself FilmNerd, I see what you're doing,.

Lay off Film Nerd, what did he do?

Man of Steel had strong buzz going in and did well, but still look at the bad reviews and how it dropped like a rock in the second weekend.

Maybe that prediction with Pacific Rim and its reviews doesn't pan out. So what, it sounds like a prediction to me. Big deal.

Guillermo del Toro fans are way too defensive.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

You are really going to compare this with Transformers which had a nostalgic built in fanbase? Where is that old 80's Pacific Rim cartoon and Toy line because I must have missed it. Damn I keep saying that 60mil would be a good opening but the way I keep seeing it compared with Transformers obviously some of you are expecting around 100mil opening weekend. I mean why else would you compare it to Transformers and Man of Steel for that matter. Jesus some are going to be crushed.

And what's up with posting what Jamie is saying on another forum? Is Jamie an obsession of yours or something because it looks like he's just stating his opinion, which is no more or less important than anyone else's.

 

[Tron Bonne]

You are really going to compare this with Transformers which had a nostalgic built in fanbase? Where is that old 80's Pacific Rim cartoon and Toy line because I must have missed it. Damn I keep saying that 60mil would be a good opening but the way I keep seeing it compared with Transformers obviously some of you are expecting around 100mil opening weekend. I mean why else would you compare it to Transformers and Man of Steel for that matter. Jesus some are going to be crushed.

And what's up with posting what Jamie is saying on another forum? Is Jamie an obsession of yours or something because it looks like he's just stating his opinion, which is no more or less important than anyone else's.

This is all true, but I will throw in, for fairness, the TF franchise was basically dead before the first Bay film. The toy line had been bombing for years, and I don't even know if they'd attempted a cartoon in recent years.

My main point would be that the 'built-in' fanbase wasn't as big a deal to the movie's success as it being something relatively new and interesting to see on the big screen in live action. And that's a thing that no movie, including this one, will be able to recapture.

 

[Autonet]

This is pretty interesting: http://www.mtv.com/videos/movies/865107/guillermo-del-toros-pacific-rim-trailer-commentary.jhtml

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It doesn't matter if it wasn't popular at the time nostalgia. and being based on something gives most movies a leg up on original fair. I don't like it, I wish it weren't true but the box office numbers always bare that out.

 

[jacobed]

Lay off Film Nerd, what did he do?

Man of Steel had strong buzz going in and did well, but still look at the bad reviews and how it dropped like a rock in the second weekend.

Maybe that prediction with Pacific Rim and its reviews doesn't pan out. So what, it sounds like a prediction to me. Big deal.

Guillermo del Toro fans are way too defensive.

It dropped the second weekend because of the ginormous competition not because of "bad buzz". A huge majority of the audience loved the movie.

 

[TheVileOne]

It dropped the second weekend because of the ginormous competition not because of "bad buzz". A huge majority of the audience loved the movie.

A lot of people also didn't love the movie.

 

[MadVillainy]

None of the trailers have even managed to establish who the main character is in the film! We are just getting clips after clips of robots punching monsters in the rain.

I learned most about the characters from the recent featurette. They shouldve included that stuff in the trailers

 

[TheVileOne]

This is all true, but I will throw in, for fairness, the TF franchise was basically dead before the first Bay film. The toy line had been bombing for years, and I don't even know if they'd attempted a cartoon in recent years.

My main point would be that the 'built-in' fanbase wasn't as big a deal to the movie's success as it being something relatively new and interesting to see on the big screen in live action. And that's a thing that no movie, including this one, will be able to recapture.

It was far from dead. Beast Wars basically revived the franchise and there were tons of toys and cartoons being made up until the movie came out.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I love Man of Steel but I think a lot people didn't like it and that's a big reason why it dropped that hard. Sure the competition was apart of the reason but lets not kid ourselves and pretend that that's the only reason. I tell it like it is even if it pains me or annoys me to do so.

 

[John Locke]

They should have gone the Cloverfield route and have some awesome trailer like someone filming a wedding then have a giant monster walk in front of them or something.

 

[TheVileOne]

I thought the viral stuff early in the campaign was great and then they just stopped it all cold a couple weeks later.

Unfortunately The Dark Knight this is not.

 

[Tron Bonne]

It was far from dead. Beast Wars basically revived the franchise and there were tons of toys and cartoons being made up until the movie came out.

Wasn't Beast Wars in the late '90s?

Anyway, that's not what I've read in the past, I had read that before Bay's film, the license had been struggling, but I don't care enough about to look up anything or argue about it.

 

[MadVillainy]

Wasn't Beast Wars in the late '90s?

Anyway, that's not what I've read in the past, I had read that before Bay's film, the license had been struggling, but I don't care enough about to look up anything or argue about it.

I remember even after Beast Wars it was still pretty popular. All my younger cousins were buying/asking for toys from the Armada, Energon, and Cybertron era.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Was Armada and it's sequels not after the Bay films?

 

[MadVillainy]

Was Armada and it's sequels not after the Bay films?

nope.
Armada and them was 2002-06.
The movie was released in 07

 

[Marvin]

Nostalgia didn't save GI joe. When it comes to TF the film had alot going for it besides the name. After Prim does it's little thing I'm guessing fanboys are finally going to have to asses what that was.

I'm hoping for best though, GDT makes my kinda movies. Needed a star though, and a reduced budget this movie was made to lose money. Bigger budget than TF1? TF4 too?

 

[Tron Bonne]

nope.
Armada and them was 2002-06.
The movie was released in 07

Ah, okay, I'm probably wrong then.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'll agree with one thing, the lack of any stars in the film is baffling. They had all that money and couldn't or didn't want to attract one star? Pretty odd business decision.

 

[Marvin]

I'll agree with one thing, the lack of any stars in the film is baffling. They had all that money and couldn't or didn't want to attract one star? Pretty odd business decision.

There's a star?
(you'll agree with all when we're done here)

 

[Autonet]

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[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I don't know I'm psyched to see this but most GA people I've talked to think PR looks corny and I admit the first trailer is pretty awful and super cheesy in tone.

MOS is still doing very well at the box office just not as high as everyone was hoping, I just saw it for the third time last night and the theater was sold out sooo?

 

[MadVillainy]

I don't know I'm psyched to see this but most GA people I've talked to think PR looks corny and I admit the first trailer is pretty awful and super cheesy in tone.

MOS is still doing very well at the box office just not as high as everyone was hoping, I just saw it for the third time last night and the theater was sold out sooo?

...but why


but seriously though i dont get whats corny about this

 

[Autonet]

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[I SEE SPIDEY]

There's a star?
(you'll agree with all when we're done here)

Can I just say that although I am looking forward to the film, it does look corny. I understand exactly why some would think that. The fact that the people who cut the first trailer thought that that cheesy "cancelling the apocalypse" line/speech was anything but cheesy and kinda bad shows you how out of touch the marketing department is.